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    kaamil
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    Dear Kaamil,

    I never criticized you or any other person for not greeting in the end of their prayer. But, as I said before, I do not find any violation of Quranic principle or rule by greeting people or things around in the end of the prayer.

    You appear to be itching for a fight because I found no problem in greeting the world around me! I prefer talking to walls than debating issues with people who are eager to fight over formalistic details.
    Your prayer is for you and mine is for me ;D

    Peace,
    Edip

    Peace brother Edip,
    Forgive and pardon me if I appear rather too serious in my post. There is no need to fight and fighting has to do with something very physical and you do not fight with somebody you cannot see or touch. Rather than itching for a fight I am rather itching for the truth.
    The question is one that seeks clarity for future action of the questioner. That is why I believe a direct and straight forward answer from you would have been appropriate.
    Greetings are part of our every day life. We necessarily greet but not to walls, flowers and bugs.
    Very seriously I still need your answer to this question; can we by any circumstances end our salat without a salama? Please yes or no?
    Thanks, Kaamil.

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Very seriously I still need your answer to this question; can we by any circumstances end our salat without a salama? Please yes or no?
      Thanks, Kaamil.

      In my opinion I'd say yes. But there is no harm in saying salam.

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        hope4
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        If I approach to a flower with peace and add a bit water to it, the flower flourishes and provides me with beautiful colors and scents.

        Selam Edip

        Its funny you should say that. My mum regularly talks to her plants and says plants like that. This is probably why she has green fingers as to speak, many plants blossom with her care. She also talks to animals and loves nature. Well she was a village born person, who is now living in the city which she hates. Always talks about the village, her animals, her plants etc...

        Peace

        Hope

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          Jamaludean
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          Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
          The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
          when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
          Quran about this issue ???
          I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
          Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
          ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
          I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
          If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
          QURANIC eviedens please , thank you

          walaycomsalaam

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            MUNZIR_ALI
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            Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
            The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
            when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
            Quran about this issue ???
            I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
            Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
            ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
            I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
            If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
            QURANIC eviedens please , thank you

            walaycomsalaam

            Wow 19th post of yours. wow

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              tilleli
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              peace Jamaludean, i end my salat with Praise be to GOD, Lord of the universe, i do salat with my mother tong, talking with My God according to what He teached me in Quran, rachad khalifa pray with traditional method, you shall studie Quran to find for your the rules and how to pray. know that the quran is complete and detailled.
              God bless you.

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                Ariji
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                Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
                The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
                when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
                Quran about this issue ???
                I do it ( assalaamalaycom ) after prayer becouse I saw
                Rashad Khalifa do on you-tube !!!
                ALLAAH say so many times to follow the messenger , so
                I do what ALLAAH tells me to do .
                If any one wants to proof me wrong he/she should provide
                QURANIC eviedens please , thank you

                walaycomsalaam

                Who was 'the messenger' did you mean? Muhammad or Rashad?

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                  Edip_Yuksel
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                  Ok, looks like every one is missing the point .
                  The real question is why do we greed creation ( flowers , bugs , plants , ens. )
                  when we are talking to ALLAAH . Is there any thing in the
                  Quran about this issue ???

                  I did not miss the point, since greeting is the ENDING of the prayer. If such a greeting was in the middle of prayer, your question would be justified. I think it is very appropriate since you end your communication with your Creator and come back communicating with the the creation.

                  Peace,
                  Edip

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                    Jamaludean
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                    Reply to Arijil

                    According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa

                    GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

                    381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
                    Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

                    337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....

                    Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...

                    Walaycomsalaam

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                      Jamaludean
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                      I did not miss the point, since greeting is the ENDING of the prayer. If such a greeting was in the middle of prayer, your question would be justified. I think it is very appropriate since you end your communication with your Creator and come back communicating with the the creation.

                      Exalant anser I must say very good but
                      the PROOF is what I am realy looking for

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                        Ariji
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                        Reply to Arijil

                        According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa

                        GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

                        381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
                        Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

                        337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....

                        Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...

                        Walaycomsalaam

                        Salam

                        Thanks for the answer. Is the any other messengers do you believe after Muhammad? Just asking.

                        Peace.

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                          hope4
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                          Salam

                          Thanks for the answer. Is the any other messengers do you believe after Muhammad? Just asking.

                          Peace.

                          Selam

                          I think he made that clear.

                          peace

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                            Jamaludean
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                            GOD is fear and loves you .
                            HE has send messengers to all nations

                            "O people of the scripture, our messenger has come
                            to you, to clarify things for you, after a long period
                            without messengers. Lest you say,
                            "No preacher or warner has come to us."
                            A preacher and warner has come to you.
                            God is Omnipotent. "

                            ist been more than 1406 years now that
                            the Muhammad walked the earth .
                            After a long time now ALLAAH did send
                            Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the
                            covenant to purify the Quran and to preatch
                            the true religition (submition)
                            The messenger that ALLAAH is talking
                            about in 519 is/was Rashad Khalifa

                            It is important to believe these facts
                            for ouer salvation

                            walaycomsalaam

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                              afridi220
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                              Reply to Arijil

                              According the Quran the last messenger is/was rashad khalifa

                              GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

                              381 clearly say that rashad came afterwards...
                              Recall that we took from the prophets their covenant, including you (O Muhammad), Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn pledge.

                              337 proofs that muhammad was not the last messenger .....

                              Those hoe don't believe the messengers of GOD might be in trouble on the day of reconing...

                              Walaycomsalaam

                              So did Rashad convey the message tp all dead prophets?

                              Are you sure that 381 is about human messanger? confused

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                                Jamaludean
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                                Reply for afridi 220

                                it is verry sad that you are so in dought
                                about R.K
                                and also that you had to be the 19 repley
                                on this matter

                                you know that the pledge to the profets
                                were made long before the creation of the
                                cosmos and it is commensens that all
                                profets lived and die .
                                I realy don't understaan your question and
                                I think you don't belive that Rashad Khalifa is
                                the messenger of the covanant.

                                Do go and read about the mathamaticel miricule
                                of the code 19 and you wil see the trueth INSHALLAAH

                                walaycomsalaam

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                                  afridi220
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                                  Reply for afridi 220

                                  it is verry sad that you are so in dought
                                  about R.K
                                  and also that you had to be the 19 repley
                                  on this matter

                                  you know that the pledge to the profets
                                  were made long before the creation of the
                                  cosmos and it is commensens that all
                                  profets lived and die .
                                  I realy don't understaan your question and
                                  I think you don't belive that Rashad Khalifa is
                                  the messenger of the covanant.

                                  Do go and read about the mathamaticel miricule
                                  of the code 19 and you wil see the trueth INSHALLAAH

                                  walaycomsalaam

                                  You are right I don?t believe in Rashad messenger ship my understanding of the verse is that the messenger in question is not a human massager but it is referred to angel Gabriel. yes

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                                    Ariji
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                                    GOD is fear and loves you .
                                    HE has send messengers to all nations

                                    "O people of the scripture, our messenger has come
                                    to you, to clarify things for you, after a long period
                                    without messengers. Lest you say,
                                    "No preacher or warner has come to us."
                                    A preacher and warner has come to you.
                                    God is Omnipotent. "

                                    ist been more than 1406 years now that
                                    the Muhammad walked the earth .
                                    After a long time now ALLAAH did send
                                    Rashad Khalifa as the messenger of the
                                    covenant to purify the Quran and to preatch
                                    the true religition (submition)
                                    The messenger that ALLAAH is talking
                                    about in 519 is/was Rashad Khalifa

                                    It is important to believe these facts
                                    for ouer salvation

                                    walaycomsalaam

                                    The verse 519 "our messenger has come", it is revealed before Rashad be born isn't it? police

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                                      Ariji
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                                      Selam

                                      I think he made that clear.

                                      peace

                                      Salam

                                      yeah, I missed it. hypno

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                                        nsws1988
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                                        You are right I don?t believe in Rashad messenger ship my understanding of the verse is that the messenger in question is not a human massager but it is referred to angel Gabriel. yes

                                        Me too

                                        Reply for afridi 220

                                        it is verry sad that you are so in dought
                                        about R.K
                                        and also that you had to be the 19 repley
                                        on this matter

                                        you know that the pledge to the profets
                                        were made long before the creation of the
                                        cosmos and it is commensens that all
                                        profets lived and die .
                                        I realy don't understaan your question and
                                        I think you don't belive that Rashad Khalifa is
                                        the messenger of the covanant.

                                        Do go and read about the mathamaticel miricule
                                        of the code 19 and you wil see the trueth INSHALLAAH

                                        walaycomsalaam

                                        What if he doesn't believe what you believe in? He doesn't have to.

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