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Taking off the Hijab

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    Sirius
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    Afridi he should go for number one DEFO

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      Sirius
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      rotfl This discussion has really made me laugh. The funny thing is, I was literally coming on this forum to ask this original question. I've been wanting to take off my headscarf for a while; and have slowly been doing what Sarah suggested, I'm at the showing my neck stage...

      I'm still worried about what my friends are going to say. They were really supportive when I decided to wear it, giving me scarfs and pins etc. But that was before I learnt more about my faith. I know I rushed into wearing the headscarf but I know what everyone's going to think. A girl in my school stopped wearing the headscarf for one day and the backbiting carried on for weeks.

      Yeah honestly I'm thinking of all the repercussions which will be many.. My teachers, my friends, my friends parents, my family, family friends, next door's cat

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        SarahY
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        Last night i had a weird dream about the headscarf! (and i hardly dream) must be a sign haha nah.. well anyway i changed the way i wear the headscarf i put photos on facebook you can see there. I thought i'd get backlash but no one said anything though it's not too extreme... yet.

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          Last night i had a weird dream about the headscarf! (and i hardly dream) must be a sign haha nah.. well anyway i changed the way i wear the headscarf i put photos on facebook you can see there. I thought i'd get backlash but no one said anything though it's not too extreme... yet.

          Okay you made me curious, I took a look ... I think it's cute, you should wear hoops too. p

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            SarahY
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            hahaha hoops is pushing it besides with my face big no no lol but thanks

            You know though i actually feel guilty for wanting to take it off..

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              Sirius
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              hahaha hoops is pushing it P besides with my face big no no lol but thanks

              You know though i actually feel guilty for wanting to take it off..

              I get that feeling... It's really not simple.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                Choose one Kidoooo -*
                http//img251.imageshack.us/img251/2953/bc081113longestbeardtal.jpg
                http//img718.imageshack.us/img718/4171/hanslangseth.jpg

                laugh

                Not that type of beard )

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                  Sirius
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                  Not that type of beard

                  P

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                    Stubble is attractive on a man as it accentuates his jaw line, making him look more masculine. But full on beards are unattractive because they hide the jawline, reducing the appearance of masculinity as well as making it harder to recognise emotions.

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                      nsws1988
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                      I get that feeling... It's really not simple.

                      I don't.

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                        Submitterwife
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                        The Quran does not advocate the Hijab. The Quran says to cover your bossoms( breasts and butt) and to lengthen garments which means no mini skirts or midriff belly shirts. It means to wear modest clothes that dont show off your body sexually and to be protected from lustful eyes watching your chest or booty. We are not to reveal our chests to anyone but our husbands and that we should subdue our gaze and not be looking into mens eyes and there faces with sex and lust. We should not strike our feet to make our booties jiggle and draw attention.
                        DRESS CODE IN QURAN
                        Dress modestly
                        Cover our chest
                        Lengthen our garments( longer skirts and shirts as to not show off body)
                        do not show details of our bodies (breasts, butt, Thighs, etc)

                        Dress code in Quran
                        Only show neccesary parts (2431)
                        Cover the chest ( 2431)
                        Dress modestly( 2431) def of modesty= quiet and humble in appearance
                        Lengthen your garment(3359)

                        No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.

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                          The Quran does not advocate the Hijab. The Quran says to cover your bossoms( breasts and butt) and to lengthen garments which means no mini skirts or midriff belly shirts. It means to wear modest clothes that dont show off your body sexually and to be protected from lustful eyes watching your chest or booty. We are not to reveal our chests to anyone but our husbands and that we should subdue our gaze and not be looking into mens eyes and there faces with sex and lust. We should not strike our feet to make our booties jiggle and draw attention.
                          DRESS CODE IN QURAN
                          Dress modestly
                          Cover our chest
                          Lengthen our garments( longer skirts and shirts as to not show off body)
                          do not show details of our bodies (breasts, butt, Thighs, etc)

                          Dress code in Quran
                          Only show neccesary parts (2431)
                          Cover the chest ( 2431)
                          Dress modestly( 2431) def of modesty= quiet and humble in appearance
                          Lengthen your garment(3359)

                          No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.

                          bravo bravo

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                            SarahY
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                            i just thought i'd add remember Quran isn't against cultural rites and as societies move on from generation to generation things change as part of social/cultural norms. Doesn't mean people need to adopt them just saying it's part of society and that's fine but obligating it and make it part of religion or obligation is when lines get crossed.

                            I don't.

                            I guess it'll be easier for you to take it off. the difference with me is i wore hijab because i "thought" it was an obligation. i felt i was doing right, following God's commands... i know how big the hijab is associated with the community i.e. she's following God's commands, shes doing jihad(struggling) in non muslim country to support her identity.. it's an identity and the fact that it's been apart of me so long it feels odd to just throw it off.

                            hijab has it's good points but people are just drawn to "it's oppressive, why should i bla bla bla"

                            No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.

                            sure, Quran isn't advocating hijab. it's given us the benchmark of the guidelines. IF we do more that's our actions irrespective of Quran.

                            i was thinking if i did take hijab off i'd need to change my wardrobe slightly. with the headscarf at least if the top is low cut it can cover. even if it isn't low cut cross your arms, or bend down you've exposed yourself.. most women's clothing tends to be more huggie as in tight fitted and low cut. just contrasts women's tops to men's.. kinda annoying.

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                              Wakas
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                              peace Submitterwife, all,

                              If you have time, can you give me your take on the "lengthen your garment" theory, with reference to
                              http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htm

                              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                                aynur
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                                I guess it'll be easier for you to take it off. the difference with me is i wore hijab because i "thought" it was an obligation. i felt i was doing right, following God's commands... i know how big the hijab is associated with the community i.e. she's following God's commands, shes doing jihad(struggling) in non muslim country to support her identity.. it's an identity and the fact that it's been apart of me so long it feels odd to just throw it off.

                                Yeah I totally understand ... even though I only cover my hair while I pray, since it's a habit (and it's not even worn a fraction of the length you wear one outside of the home) it would feel very odd not to wear it. And it does identify you as a 'Muslim'.

                                i was thinking if i did take hijab off i'd need to change my wardrobe slightly. with the headscarf at least if the top is low cut it can cover. even if it isn't low cut cross your arms, or bend down you've exposed yourself.. most women's clothing tends to be more huggie as in tight fitted and low cut. just contrasts women's tops to men's.. kinda annoying.

                                I was thinking along the lines of that the other day while looking at some low v-neck cut tops in a magazine, thinking if I wore a scarf I could wear the tops because the scarf would cover the neckline/cleavage area. p

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                                  Omeiza
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                                  Maybe it is more islamic to cover just the private part(s) and the bossom!

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                                    SarahY
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                                    I guess overtly it makes me feel muslim

                                    BTW Aynur those v neck tops would defeat the purpose P just buy it for home or something (or just don't buy them and save money haha)

                                    Omeiza it's not more or less.

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                                      SarahY
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                                      Peace Wakas,

                                      I don?t think it?s necessarily situation specific.

                                      Take a look at the verses before, it talks about those who inflict harm on believers (men and women) they?re doing wrong (335. They can do that whenever.. we don?t wait for them to cause harm to protect ourselves, that?ll be unwise.

                                      Basically as a caution for women, from people (hypocrites) in the city because we can?t control/stop them (3360) lengthening garments is ?adna?, more suitable.

                                      So having a longer garment out in the city is better, for identity purposes and also protection. I guess it?s up to the individual to judge if they should or shouldn?t but lengthening is more suitable in city situations.

                                      That?s how I took it

                                      Peace

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                                        peace Submitterwife, all,

                                        If you have time, can you give me your take on the "lengthen your garment" theory, with reference to
                                        http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htm

                                        I take the lengthen your garment thing as your shirts should cover your stomach when arms are raised up, your neckline should cover your chest, even when bending forward. Your skirts should cover your buttocks and thighs when bending forward and that they should not be revealing your thighs when you sit and cross your legs. I take lengthen your garments as it says.. lengthening my garments to where my body and sexual parts are covered up and unseen. I dont think that GOD made the " lengthen your garment thing to mean Jilbab like some say. If GOD wanted us to wear Jilbab he would have said wear jilbab over your garments and not lengthen them..???

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                                          SarahY
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                                          why would lengthening garments mean what is required? those are required without being specific of bending down and over. covered in all the required places from the appropriate angles...

                                          but this is more about being out and about in the city populated with all sorts, lengthen garments for protection/identity.... so i took it as "more than" the required.

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