Taking off the Hijab
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The Quran does not advocate the Hijab. The Quran says to cover your bossoms( breasts and butt) and to lengthen garments which means no mini skirts or midriff belly shirts. It means to wear modest clothes that dont show off your body sexually and to be protected from lustful eyes watching your chest or booty. We are not to reveal our chests to anyone but our husbands and that we should subdue our gaze and not be looking into mens eyes and there faces with sex and lust. We should not strike our feet to make our booties jiggle and draw attention.
DRESS CODE IN QURAN
Dress modestly
Cover our chest
Lengthen our garments( longer skirts and shirts as to not show off body)
do not show details of our bodies (breasts, butt, Thighs, etc)Dress code in Quran
Only show neccesary parts (2431)
Cover the chest ( 2431)
Dress modestly( 2431) def of modesty= quiet and humble in appearance
Lengthen your garment(3359)No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.
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The Quran does not advocate the Hijab. The Quran says to cover your bossoms( breasts and butt) and to lengthen garments which means no mini skirts or midriff belly shirts. It means to wear modest clothes that dont show off your body sexually and to be protected from lustful eyes watching your chest or booty. We are not to reveal our chests to anyone but our husbands and that we should subdue our gaze and not be looking into mens eyes and there faces with sex and lust. We should not strike our feet to make our booties jiggle and draw attention.
DRESS CODE IN QURAN
Dress modestly
Cover our chest
Lengthen our garments( longer skirts and shirts as to not show off body)
do not show details of our bodies (breasts, butt, Thighs, etc)Dress code in Quran
Only show neccesary parts (2431)
Cover the chest ( 2431)
Dress modestly( 2431) def of modesty= quiet and humble in appearance
Lengthen your garment(3359)No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.
bravo bravo
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i just thought i'd add remember Quran isn't against cultural rites and as societies move on from generation to generation things change as part of social/cultural norms. Doesn't mean people need to adopt them just saying it's part of society and that's fine but obligating it and make it part of religion or obligation is when lines get crossed.
I don't.
I guess it'll be easier for you to take it off. the difference with me is i wore hijab because i "thought" it was an obligation. i felt i was doing right, following God's commands... i know how big the hijab is associated with the community i.e. she's following God's commands, shes doing jihad(struggling) in non muslim country to support her identity.. it's an identity and the fact that it's been apart of me so long it feels odd to just throw it off.
hijab has it's good points but people are just drawn to "it's oppressive, why should i bla bla bla"
No where in those verses does it say we are required to wear hijab, We are required to the above mentioned but not required to wear Hijab. Some experts say that Neccesary parts are only eyes and some say the parts in which we use to perform prayers. GOD does not want us to hide or to make our lives difficult or complicated by having to wear hijab. If we dress modestly, cover our chests, lengthen out garments and do not show off the details or our bodies we will be in proper dress code accourding to the Quran.
sure, Quran isn't advocating hijab. it's given us the benchmark of the guidelines. IF we do more that's our actions irrespective of Quran.
i was thinking if i did take hijab off i'd need to change my wardrobe slightly. with the headscarf at least if the top is low cut it can cover. even if it isn't low cut cross your arms, or bend down you've exposed yourself.. most women's clothing tends to be more huggie as in tight fitted and low cut. just contrasts women's tops to men's.. kinda annoying.
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I guess it'll be easier for you to take it off. the difference with me is i wore hijab because i "thought" it was an obligation. i felt i was doing right, following God's commands... i know how big the hijab is associated with the community i.e. she's following God's commands, shes doing jihad(struggling) in non muslim country to support her identity.. it's an identity and the fact that it's been apart of me so long it feels odd to just throw it off.
Yeah I totally understand ... even though I only cover my hair while I pray, since it's a habit (and it's not even worn a fraction of the length you wear one outside of the home) it would feel very odd not to wear it. And it does identify you as a 'Muslim'.
i was thinking if i did take hijab off i'd need to change my wardrobe slightly. with the headscarf at least if the top is low cut it can cover. even if it isn't low cut cross your arms, or bend down you've exposed yourself.. most women's clothing tends to be more huggie as in tight fitted and low cut. just contrasts women's tops to men's.. kinda annoying.
I was thinking along the lines of that the other day while looking at some low v-neck cut tops in a magazine, thinking if I wore a scarf I could wear the tops because the scarf would cover the neckline/cleavage area. p
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Peace Wakas,
I don?t think it?s necessarily situation specific.
Take a look at the verses before, it talks about those who inflict harm on believers (men and women) they?re doing wrong (335. They can do that whenever.. we don?t wait for them to cause harm to protect ourselves, that?ll be unwise.
Basically as a caution for women, from people (hypocrites) in the city because we can?t control/stop them (3360) lengthening garments is ?adna?, more suitable.
So having a longer garment out in the city is better, for identity purposes and also protection. I guess it?s up to the individual to judge if they should or shouldn?t but lengthening is more suitable in city situations.
That?s how I took it
Peace
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peace Submitterwife, all,
If you have time, can you give me your take on the "lengthen your garment" theory, with reference to
http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/dress-code-women-veil.htmI take the lengthen your garment thing as your shirts should cover your stomach when arms are raised up, your neckline should cover your chest, even when bending forward. Your skirts should cover your buttocks and thighs when bending forward and that they should not be revealing your thighs when you sit and cross your legs. I take lengthen your garments as it says.. lengthening my garments to where my body and sexual parts are covered up and unseen. I dont think that GOD made the " lengthen your garment thing to mean Jilbab like some say. If GOD wanted us to wear Jilbab he would have said wear jilbab over your garments and not lengthen them..???
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why would lengthening garments mean what is required? those are required without being specific of bending down and over. covered in all the required places from the appropriate angles...
but this is more about being out and about in the city populated with all sorts, lengthen garments for protection/identity.... so i took it as "more than" the required.
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peace Sarah, all,
Your view is what I used to think, until I studied the sequence of the verses. Detailed discussion was done in this thread
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9598400See reply #68 for example.
They can do that whenever.. we don?t wait for them to cause harm to protect ourselves, that?ll be unwise.
Yet, this is exactly what 3359 does. See above reply in thread harm ---> modify dress ---> if persist, retaliate
It is a bit like shorten the salat/bond when in fear, i.e. it is situation specific. If there is no fear, there is no shortening. If there is no harm, there is no modifying/lengthening of jilbab.
lengthening garments is ?adna?, more suitable.
It is "more suitable/better that they be recognised".
So having a longer garment out in the city is better, for identity purposes and also protection. I guess it?s up to the individual to judge if they should or shouldn?t but lengthening is more suitable in city situations.
It is only so in certain circumstances, as mentioned in the article. Sometimes this solution would be more dangerous, thus as M.Asad points out in his notes, it is not a universal rule for all times/situations.
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peace SW,
I primarily meant your take on the situation-specific V general, understanding. However, as a side note, 3359 does use the plural of jilbab, see "yudneena AAalayhinna min jalabeebi hinna" ~ "lengthen/draw near upon yourselves from/of your outer-garments".
Colour is for clarification.
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I guess overtly it makes me feel muslim
BTW Aynur those v neck tops would defeat the purpose P just buy it for home or something (or just don't buy them and save money haha)
Omeiza it's not more or less.
Peace Sarah -
I think you misunderstood me - I meant I could buy those tops only if I had a scarf that would cover the whole top/open part of it. p
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Peace Aynur
i knew what you meant P
if you had the scarf to cover it, it would defeat the purpose of the 'design' that's what i meant.
they're good for hijabi's because you can wear say a spaghetti strap dress ontop or a shirt that's short sleeve. they're just useful 'cos they're long sleeve.
but i guess if the girl in the headscarf showed her neck and chest area it would be bad. I remember a girl at college was wearing a scarf with her neck/chest area showing and a low cut v neck top.. lol i thought why wear the scarf /
