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Democracy is a religion (DEEN). What about this?

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    Omeiza
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    Peace Bobo! I don't understand what you mean by democracy being a legitimate religion. If you could re-phrase.

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      Bobo
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      You said democracy can be considered a religion/deen - correct? Not?

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        Omeiza
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        Democracy is a way of life/a religion/a deen - legitimacy aside! USA wants the world to adopt it.

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          Government of the TRUTH by the truthful/just people for all people. No one can deny that there is the truth!

          No such government, no such place.. that truth is non existent.

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            Omeiza
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            Lets start with the truth Sarah. Truth is undeniable cos your denial is confirmation of it - saying it is the truth.

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              i doubt that we are to establish a system here that gives 51% of population control over the rest 49%...

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                SarahY
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                Omeiza truth is truth.

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                  Omeiza
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                  Democracy did not come from heaven - people instituted it. We have duty to establish govt of the truth for ourselves.

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                    SarahY
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                    When you get enough people to follow you and a political group that upholds truth.. you can instigate truth and share it with us all

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                      Omeiza
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                      Abraham was a community dedicated to the truth alone - he was not a conformist. Oh my dear Ibrahim!

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                        Bobo
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                        Democracy is a way of life/a religion/a deen - legitimacy aside! USA wants the world to adopt it.

                        Democracy is not the perfect system. It's better than the alternatives but it's not the perfect one. And as long as ppl think of democracy the way you do nobody will find a better solution.

                        I'm actually referring to the voting system. It's better than communism and dictatorship. But like Nerspi said - the majority gets what they want. If one side is 51% and the other 49%. That's 49% out of the population who are unhappy with the government.

                        And the risk of assassination always stands.

                        I don't have the solution - if i had to choose i would choose democracy as we have it today. But there has to be something better...

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                          Omeiza
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                          Peace Bobo! Democracy is better as long as the goal is to serve interests but not a choice to find & live with the truth

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                            Omeiza
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                            Finding the truth is by research & consultation - no brain is a waste. So it is govt of all in the community & one goal.

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                              Bobo
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                              Peace Bobo! Democracy is better as long as the goal is to serve interests but not a choice to find & live with the truth

                              Once again you're not making any sense, and it's pissing me off.

                              What truth r u talking about?!

                              Am I the only one confused with this guy?!

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                                Omeiza
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                                Bobo! The goal of science is to find the truth so there is no Democracy in it unlike the present politics. Guess u r ok

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                                  Bobo! The goal of science is to find the truth so there is no Democracy in it unlike the present politics. Guess u r ok

                                  Now you're talking about science?!?! DUUUUUUDDDDEEE!!!!!!

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                                    Democracy is a way of life/a religion/a deen - legitimacy aside! USA wants the world to adopt it.

                                    HAHA rotfl

                                    The US wants the world to Adopt Democracy?

                                    Listen...Western Democracy is as far off from REAL democracy as Shia is from Islamic Quranic Monotheism.

                                    More like DemonCrazy....not democracy.

                                    If Omezia is trying to say that Democracy is a Religion/Deen....I will concur if we then say that
                                    ANY Ideology/Belief whether it be Spiritual, Philosophical, or Political is Religious.

                                    For instance, If Democracy is considered a Religion (an Organized Belief either by 1 individual or many), Then Communism is a religion, Socialism is a religion, and even Personal Belief/Opinion is a Religion.

                                    How you choose to live your life and govern yourself can be to some degree (your religion).

                                    You may be vegetarian and belief in Native philosophies...therefore can we say that is a religion?

                                    I say *F todays Democracy.

                                    I think Democracy/Communist/capitalist...etc... Values are great if they are compatible 2nd to Quranic Law.
                                    To me Quranic Law Aka True-Shariah is broad enough to give us the goods in democracy,commuism,etc... without actualy being specifically ONLY oe of those.

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                                      Omeiza
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                                      Peace RA786! I agree with the definition of Religion, your analysis & the conclusion when studied carefully. Thanks.

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                                        satisfaction
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                                        HAHA rotfl

                                        The US wants the world to Adopt Democracy?

                                        Listen...Western Democracy is as far off from REAL democracy as Shia is from Islamic Quranic Monotheism.

                                        More like DemonCrazy....not democracy.

                                        If Omezia is trying to say that Democracy is a Religion/Deen....I will concur if we then say that
                                        ANY Ideology/Belief whether it be Spiritual, Philosophical, or Political is Religious.

                                        I say *F todays Democracy.

                                        I think Democracy/Communist/capitalist...etc... Values are great if they are compatible 2nd to Quranic Law.
                                        To me Quranic Law Aka True-Shariah is broad enough to give us the goods in democracy,commuism,etc... without actualy being specifically ONLY oe of those.

                                        "Yesterday's" democracy isn't preferable to today's democracy, they're both pretty terrible when it comes to humanity. Democracy plain and simple is the rule of the majority. There is nothing positive about that, it is absolutely terrible. Islam and freedom is about protecting everyone, even the minority, where no one has authority over another except for God. Like stated above, what is positive about the 51% majority doing whatever they want to the 49% minority? Democracy has never been about freedom(not that I'm saying thats your position). Its more like you have 3 guys, Sam, Tom, and Robert. Now Sam says "hey Robert I'm going to take all your food and clothes". And Robert says "no way they're mine." Tom who believes in democracy says "Why don't we vote on it!". Sam and Tom both vote yes, and Robert Votes no. Sorry robert! That's democracy, your clothes and food are taken away now. I find this to be a pretty nice book on democracy http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_The_God_That_Failed

                                        I dont see any goods in communism or democracy to relate them to the positive qualities of Quran. Communism and democracy both operate through use of force and aggression, steal from one group of people to give to another. Quran esposes voluntary means to help people through charity, no need for a govenment to redistribute wealth.

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                                          RA786
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                                          Salaam satisfaction.

                                          I agree with you on that.

                                          however, I do believe in Some Aspects of Democracy, for small things.
                                          For example... The Quran might not specify certain things about the community such as If we should use the open feild in the city to build a Football stadium or build a park...

                                          So I think that on small things such as that...a Good Community Vote would seem like a good thing.
                                          (what do you think about that)?

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