And the women reject you, so what do you do?
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Do you know anything about being a lawyer?
What does that have to do with anything?
"Please don't contact me anymore. I'm not into playing games and trying to figure out hidden meanings or agendas. So stopmessaging me. Thank you." This is what she said.
If you have agreed to follow her directions why do you even bother to question what others should do? Do you want people to have sympathy for you or pity you or something?
Well if you want to take the brotherhood of islam, and imply it upon muslimahs and muslims are brothers and sisters upon each other, then you'd probably have no choice but to agree with those born of muslim parents and what not who end up having only a choice of marrying non-siblings (non-muslims). I know I cannot, so I would have to make a new thread in regards to this subject.
You?re understanding is illogical, the brotherhood of islam is an ideological connotation not a literal brother/sister in islam. You must understand concepts do not contradict. So in verse 4910 what does it say to you?
You want to say that I'm silly? Because my ex-wife used to say the same thing before we were married, but today I don't have any means of supporting a wife as according to quran 2433 and 424, so I cannot do quran 2235
I'd have to just say that you and many women aren't very sharp at all... perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual.Are you asserting your education is better than mine and that makes you greater than me? What makes me not sharp? My education? makes me wonder how you have knowledge of the unseen, because i don't recall telling you about my education. so maybe it's my opinions because it?s not what you agree with? you must feel very proud of yourself for being so great.
people are handling you doesn't mean they need to agree with you.
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What does that have to do with anything?
If you have agreed to follow her directions why do you even bother to question what others should do? Do you want people to have sympathy for you or pity you or something?You?re understanding is illogical, the brotherhood of islam is an ideological connotation not a literal brother/sister in islam. You must understand concepts do not contradict. So in verse 4910 what does it say to you?
Are you asserting your education is better than mine and that makes you greater than me? What makes me not sharp? My education? makes me wonder how you have knowledge of the unseen, because i don't recall telling you about my education. so maybe it's my opinions because it?s not what you agree with? you must feel very proud of yourself for being so great.
people are handling you doesn't mean they need to agree with you.
What being a lawyer has to do with anything is, that in law, you have to find peculiarities of escaping the roadblocks to what you want to do. I want to talk to her, and tell her about quran 5811 or something else, and a great lawyer would understand this and not give up.
Do you wish to make my day difficult and state that no man could be smarter than you? I do not know your education. But if you were standing from where I was... then I would have at least expected a review of why I was "silly". Because it was you was asking the questions, and then you made a statement that almost seemed like an insult to my intelligence. How does a person ask questions when they have been judged to be silly. Do they reply with even more silly questions?
Your questions made you seem a little dull. You don't recall telling me your education? Well I haven't seen you use that education, so it seems you've failed there. And it would be improper for me to ask about your failures. Personally I feel like I am at least trying to apply what I have learned and what I have been told to expect, more so than you. You could only say that we have different standards... but seriously, in communication, improper methods would fail quran 3159 & 16125.
And I expect more from women. I expect that they know humanity so well... that it would be easy for me to say "wow... what amazing bunch of muslimahs we have"... maybe I expected too much from you and other muslim women? But seriously, muslimahs are supposed to be the best sort of people on the face of this planet. I have no choice but to expect... or at least pray for the best.
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The reason why i called you silly was because of your correlation of muslim brothers and sisters through faith and verse 2235. In future i won't be judgemental, so i'm sorry.
I never said i was better or worse but clearly you did
You want to say that I'm silly? Because my ex-wife used to say the same thing before we were married, but today I don't have any means of supporting a wife as according to quran 2433 and 424, so I cannot do quran 2235
I'd have to just say that you and many women aren't very sharp at all... perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual.I don't wish to make your day difficult. good luck trying and not giving up. though let me share my not so sharp opinion, if you choose to do nothing because she said not to talk to her, you're simply just complaining and making your situation a problem.so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem? if you feel the need to send her a message maybe you could ask someone you trust, on your behalf to send that message to her, in case you feel you're violating her right you may wish to tell the mediator to add a note as to why they are a go-between.
peace.
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The reason why i called you silly was because of your correlation of muslim brothers and sisters through faith and verse 2235. In future i won't be judgemental, so i'm sorry.
I never said i was better or worse but clearly you did
I don't wish to make your day difficult. good luck trying and not giving up. though let me share my not so sharp opinion, if you choose to do nothing because she said not to talk to her, you're simply just complaining and making your situation a problem. so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem? if you feel the need to send her a message maybe you could ask someone you trust, on your behalf to send that message to her, in case you feel you're violating her right you may wish to tell the mediator to add a note as to why they are a go-between.
peace.
I don't accept apologizes. I can only be a witness that you said such a thing. If I'm silly, I would want to know where I went wrong, and what I should do about it. That I can accept. What I cannot accept is judgment that would lead me to endlessly contemplating that I am how I was judged and there is no way out. Because normally with judgement, there would be some sort of way for rehabilitation, nO? After a sin, there should be some way for me to return to the proper method by repenting and seeking forgiveness and what not... but if I'm not given that then I'd be at loss. She of course managed to give judgment and provide methods of rehabing myself.
"perhaps we need more muslimahs who are educated in the manner as I was... well perhaps I would be better off if that was possible, or if they were at least able to handle my type of individual."
That means I prefer to have like minded people, or those who knowledgeable enough to understand whatever cryptic message I may be able to give, or at least attempt to hazard a guess. I've only come across a handful of people if not less than that, who could or would even try to attempt such a thing.
Well it's obvious that I seem to be complaining because I find it problematic that the only female or even person on this forum seemed to interested in the same things as I am, but they're not interested in me.
"so how do you expect to make a solution from the very problem?" - I expect someone to order me to tell them more about this individual so that they could advocate on my behalf for that individual to take back what they said. No I cannot ask you to send a message, that would be contacting her. You have to demand those particular of contacting.
Not her rights, quran 5811 and her ordering me to do what not.
"I don't wish to make your day difficult" - I don't believe women should give-in (submit) to men.
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No problem, you don?t need to accept my apology at least it?s a reminder for me to not let my opinions interfere. Though you should be aware that you?ve been judgemental.
What i meant by rights were in matters of ethics.. i?m not sure what you meant
though if she is a member here i?m sure she can read your thread.
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No problem, you don?t need to accept my apology at least it?s a reminder for me to not let my opinions interfere. Though you should be aware that you?ve been judgemental.
What i meant by rights were in matters of ethics.. i?m not sure what you meant
though if she is a member here i?m sure she can read your thread.
No it's not a reminder for you to not let your opinions interfere, but for your opinions to be more islamic, by the book. I don't know ethics, the quran is greater than that. And people learn ethics from the quran.
She looked like she was just browsing this place for marriage offers. And no activity since 3rd march, I think I scared her off towards some next place.
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Asalaamu 'alaykum
FAR why don't you start by being honest about the what led up to ME saying that to you and also that was on PRIVATE MESSAGE only. How old are you? It feels like a high school tantrum honestly. Go ahead and hate women....they are not the problem....you are.....so fix yourself first and really try and figure out what so many women dislike you as you stated in the first message to me.
Mehgan -
Asalaamu 'alaykum,
And the reason I told you not to contact me anymore was because I wish to chat with people not argue with them, there are too many things going on in this world that are much more serious and more important. I think it was incorrect of you to post my words, even though my name wasn't attached, you knew I was a member here and it just feels passive-aggressive. I came here to this site to find unity and maturity and I am having to deal with 8 year old child like behavior. Like I said go ahead and hate women if it makes you feel better....they are not the issue....it is yourself. Respond all you like, I'm done and closing my account on this site, I'm 35 years old and don't have time for this and this is definitely not what I seek to help me.
Mehgan -
she posted a video on how her dog died and she had issues with islam, and thus she had become an atheist... no hijab what not. Unfortunately her friend became secular and at issue with islam as well though considered herself a muslim.
now she hates you because your a muslim?
if i understand correctly, she decided to become atheist because she felt like god lied to her? Or maybe she just lied to herself because she thought god was somekind of big man in the skies going to help everyone with petty matters whatever they may be, and that a prayer or a magical sentance would protect what she loves?
we would need more info to give an insightful answer, because by the sound of it she just went from orthodox mainstream wishful thinking islam to ahteism
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Asalaamu 'alaykum everyone,
Just to clear some things up, there are two different women FAR is talking about.........the first post that started this whole thread that is wasting so much time and taking our focus off of what we really should be focusing on, Islam and each other in a positive manner, was a quote from me in a PRIVATE message that has now been made public......the other woman he is talking about being an atheist and with a dog who died is NOT me, I was raised Christian and reverted to Islam several years ago.
For one final statement from me, I really showed a genuine interest in getting to know FAR but he made it completely impossible...see that is what he didn't post in there that I told him I truly wanted to know him without any judgments ahead of time. I wanted to give him a chance like everyone deserves. His post makes me look like I am some angry woman but that is far from who I am, but I also am not going to waste my time with someone who doesn't even realize they are just playing games and frustrating people.
Jazak Allah khayr,
Mehgan(Islah) -
I see someone has arrived, unfortunately I'm forbidden (Quran 5811) from contacting her.
now she hates you because your a muslim?
if i understand correctly, she decided to become atheist because she felt like god lied to her? Or maybe she just lied to herself because she thought god was somekind of big man in the skies going to help everyone with petty matters whatever they may be, and that a prayer or a magical sentance would protect what she loves?
we would need more info to give an insightful answer, because by the sound of it she just went from orthodox mainstream wishful thinking islam to ahteism
but that's just speculationShe who?