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    afridi220
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    when we have the latest version of revelations, the quran and hadith, then why would you insist to read other scripture? unless you are just jealous of the new version!

    You forget the real forces Ulama &

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      Thereformer1
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      Salamun alaikum,

      I'm fed up of your sarcastic approach to people here, your arrogance and approach is not becoming of a human let alone a muslim. I'm glad that you know the right way to talk to people. For this reason, I will try to keep my sentences short so that you understand.

      whatever

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        darcus
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        Salamun alaikum,

        To be a reformer, you must reform yourself.

        Those in glass houses do not throw stones.

        Peace
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          Thereformer1
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          Salamun alaikum,
          To be a reformer, you must reform yourself.
          Those in glass houses do not throw stones.
          Peace
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          I chose refomer because I reform electrical equipements rotfl

          I'll not build my house from glass, so thanks for the advice.

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            Ayisha
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            I'll not build my house from class,

            finally you said something I agree with rotfl rotfl rotfl

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              Thereformer1
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              finally you said something I agree with rotfl rotfl rotfl

              what's your point ?

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                Ayisha
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                what's your point ?

                rotfl rotfl bravo laugh

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                  Thereformer1
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                  rotfl rotfl bravo laugh

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                    Ayisha
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                    aww you edited it voodoo

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                      Leyna
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                      Hi RasulHamsa

                      when we have the latest version of revelations, the quran and hadith, then why would you insist to read other scripture?

                      For inspiration, for example. Most scriptures say the same basic things, but due to their respective cultural backgrounds in different languages -- literally and metaphorically.

                      I like reading various things from various sources. peace

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                        Hi RasulHamsa
                        For inspiration, for example. Most scriptures say the same basic things, but due to their respective cultural backgrounds in different languages -- literally and metaphorically.
                        I like reading various things from various sources. peace

                        Leyna you know that Salah Eddine Al Ayoubi have wrote the book of Moses and he added the metaphor and the ruls of the arabic language into the hebrew scriptures. so most of Jewish must thank him because their language is strong now because of Arabic language. and by the way you must not read th scriptures because Quran came to banned readin them and it is your choice, do whatver you want.

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                          Ayisha
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                          and by the way you must not read th scriptures because Quran came to banned readin them and it is your choice, do whatver you want.

                          where does Quran say it bans reading the previous scriptures please?

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                            where does Quran say it bans reading the previous scriptures please?

                            apparently nowhere, but as the mufassir of the quran is prophet himself so he banned it! now either you obey him or you dont! choice is yours as always

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                              apparently nowhere, but as the mufassir of the quran is prophet himself so he banned it! now either you obey him or you dont! choice is yours as always )

                              Now why would a prophet ban what Allah says this about

                              003.003
                              YUSUFALI It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).

                              The Book is Quran, it confirms the Law given to Moses and the Gospel of Jesus. Allah does not ban reading these previous messages, He actually tells you they are also from Him and PART of the message from Him.

                              005.044
                              YUSUFALI It was We who revealed the law (to Moses) therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.

                              005.045....................And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.

                              005.046...................... If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel

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                              YUSUFALI If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all the revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have enjoyed happiness from every side. There is from among them a party on the right course but many of them follow a course that is evil.

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                              YUSUFALI Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise) they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Qur'an and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded that is the achievement supreme.

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                              YUSUFALI The Truth (comes) from Allah alone; so be not of those who doubt.

                              I will obey Him and His guidence in in His Book, but thanks for giving me a choice

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                                Now why would a prophet ban what Allah says this about

                                using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.

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                                  nsws1988
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                                  using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.

                                  laugh

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                                    Andya_Primanda
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                                    using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.

                                    This sentence reminds me why I like your approach bro. Tongue-in-cheek.

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.

                                      look my brother, this is my problem with these guys here, they don't ask questions about Akida, they like to ask questions about Nakidoha .

                                      they don't know this verse

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                                        where does Quran say it bans reading the previous scriptures please?

                                        well, you should not read the other scriptures, accept it like that or do whatever you want.

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          using your own reason in religious matters is not a good idea! Those who obey the prophet don't question or use their own reason.

                                          Well thats obvious from some of the replies here and in complete contrast to what Allah has said in Quran. here are a few verses that tell you to think and reflect, which means using your own mind and reasoning, there are many more verses saying the same thing, to use your MIND and BRAIN instead of being lazy and hoping someone else has done it all for you.

                                          2219......................Thus doth Allah Make clear to you His Signs In order that ye may consider/give thought/reflect-
                                          2266............. Thus doth Allah make clear to you (His) Signs; that ye may consider/give thought/reflect.
                                          006.050 Say "I tell you not that with me are the treasures of Allah, nor do I know what is hidden, nor do I tell you I am an angel. I but follow what is revealed to me." Say "can the blind be held equal to the seeing?" Will ye then consider/give thought/reflect not?
                                          7176 ......................perchance they may reflect/consider/give thought
                                          7184........................Do they not reflect/consider/give thought?
                                          1024..........................thus do We explain the Signs in detail for those who reflect/consider/give thought.
                                          1303................Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider/reflect/give thought!
                                          1611...........verily in this is a sign for those who give thought/consider/reflect.
                                          49.6 O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become full of repentance for what ye have done.

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