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Asking a woman in secrecy

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    Thereformer1
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    You are right Mutawa 9 hail

    what's your point ? get straight !!

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      nsws1988
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      Thereformer1 - Do you need to go off-topic on every single thread you 'contribute' to?

      Zulu12 - You might not ask for advice here but some people do. There's nothing wrong with that. If anyone needs advice or just someone to talk to then I'm happy to help.

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        Ayisha
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        But, Ayisha. I don't come on here asking for advice on my relationship with my spouse or potential spouse or trying to verify the right way because I have decided to cut myself off from the majority of Muslims around the world therefore cannot go to a more learned person for advice.
        You may discuss your personal issues here but not me.
        I think there is a note of personal dislike from you towards the poster because of his beliefs? this is a FREE MINDS forum for like minded people which you seem to object to. Not everyone is like you, or me, or reformer (Alhamdulillah) and we are here to discuss things regarding Quran, the poster brought up a question regarding Quran which involved his relationship. Now maybe you have been Muslim since your daddy winked at your mommy but maybe the OP hasnt. Please try for a little compassion towards those that are different in mind, looks, age and ideas to you, you are not perfect even if you are a man.

        How about setting up a blog for his thoughts, moans, gripes and what nots. Or even diarise it.

        Now why couldnt you come up with that at the beginning instead of trying to belittle another human being?

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          zulu12
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          Dear nsws1988

          Fair enough.

          Peace

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            Thereformer1
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            Thereformer1 - Do you need to go off-topic on every single thread you 'contribute' to?

            No, but you can say this post to the other member not me .

            Zulu12 - You might not ask for advice here but some people do. There's nothing wrong with that. If anyone needs advice or just someone to talk to then I'm happy to help.

            You have to be in a position to give an advice especially in religion of Islam.

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              Ayisha
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              wow, you are teacher? respect hail

              No im an accountant, but I do give some English lessons here to my husband and some of his friends, inshaAllah it will be more if I get the interview for the job I applied &

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                Thereformer1
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                I think there is a note of personal dislike from you towards the poster because of his beliefs? this is a FREE MINDS forum for like minded people which you seem to object to. Not everyone is like you, or me, or reformer (Alhamdulillah)

                oh, that shows that there is a place of me in your heart rotfl

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                  nsws1988
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                  My position is of one who submits to God alone and tries her very best to understand the Quran. No one is perfect but by exchanging thoughts on this forum we can increase our understanding.

                  Now where were we...

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                    zulu12
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                    Dear Ayisha

                    Once again, you're getting your tongue twisted. There is absolutely no dislike from me towards the questioner in the slightest.

                    I personally do not think this Forum is the appropriate medium for advice on a matter regarding the 'right' way to get married especially for someone who has feelings for another and wants to move forward and 'tie the knot'. I could be wrong, but hey, that's my view.

                    Peace

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                      Ayisha
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                      No, but you can say this post to the other member not me .

                      You have to be in a position to give an advice especially in religion of Islam.

                      that quote is not mine, stop misquoting.

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                        nsws1988
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                        that quote is not mine, stop misquoting.

                        I said that not you. I don't know why it was quoted as if it was from you.

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                          Ayisha
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                          Dear Ayisha

                          Once again, you're getting your tongue twisted. There is absolutely no dislike from me towards the questioner in the slightest.
                          then why this rather distainful remark

                          "or trying to verify the right way because I have decided to cut myself off from the majority of Muslims around the world therefore cannot go to a more learned person for advice. "

                          I personally do not think this Forum is the appropriate medium for advice on a matter regarding the 'right' way to get married especially for someone who has feelings for another and wants to move forward and 'tie the knot'. I could be wrong, but hey, that's my view.

                          Peace

                          you are welcome to your view brother, as is everyone else, and the poster is looking for a bit of brainstorming so he can come to the right conclusion for HIM.

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                            Ayisha
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                            I said that not you. I don't know why it was quoted as if it was from you.

                            maybe I have a place in his heart ;D

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                              FAR
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                              Oh the lord of me!

                              I only just posted this thread and it has already gone into 4 pages!

                              What's the deal??? Must be an interesting topic.

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                                FAR
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                                The verses are discussing making a secret contract. It says there is no blame on you for making a betrothal but a secret contract is wrong, like in marrying in secret or engaging in secret. You have said to the girl in question you want to marry her, I see no wrong on that even according to the verses. Being in love is not evil. ???

                                you should both tell your parents though and it is not wrong to marry someone you love, what is wrong is being forced to marry someone you dont want.

                                Yes it is, we've barely known each other a week and have already had two major hurt and regret issues.

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                                  FAR
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                                  Oh My God !! you better ask forgiveness.

                                  this is for the woman that his man died and she still in the period which is 40 days and 10 days .

                                  Yes I know it speaks about women who's men have died, but it would even refer to general to such women who were indisposed as she considers herself to be.

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                                    FAR
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                                    the guy is with a girl without a legal contract with witness in this contract and even he said that he touched her and there she came Miss.Fatwa to say there is no wrong with that it is love and interpret the verse for all woman. is that ok for you? .

                                    Chat... chat...!

                                    Intentions are not contracts, and neither are proposals. You're using incorrect terms, stop confusing people and getting confused.

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                                      zulu12
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                                      Dear Ayisha

                                      You may see the remark as distainful but I don't.

                                      Is it not a fact that any of the PM's that do not accept rulings and advice from the Muslim Scholars because they are perceived to have deviated from the path and brainwashed the masses, make up their own in accordance to what they believe is right from their personal interpretation of the Quran?

                                      Tell me I'm wrong.

                                      Peace

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                                        FAR
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                                        well, I will not believe him if he didn't say that he didn't touch her, he is meeting her , he is touching her >> you misunderstood the term touching holding his hands as a symbol of love is touching.

                                        and the second thing that you have avoid is she interpreted the verse for all woman even the free one.

                                        In touch, not touching... and holding a woman's hand is not a sin. It only may potentially lead to sin.

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                                          FAR
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                                          Read the verse properly. It says that you can meet.
                                          He never said that he touched her so don't make false accusations.

                                          I've touched her heart, and broken it twice.

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