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Women's Singing and Qur'an Recitation in Public

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    unknownuser
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    But if we scan Free Minds forum we will find more men in this habit than women on the forum. And you know Iblees influences the man most.

    yes brother, because Male to Female Ratio on the forum 11.7 and even fewer women participate.

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      SarahY
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      yes, its that verse Mazhar is talking about and I don't have it wrong! This is the that Muslim based their reasoning when talking about sexuality related to women's voice!

      I know you love being sarcastic but read the content then use your reasoning.

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        Mazhar
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        yes, its that verse Mazhar is talking about and I don't have it wrong! This is the verse that Muslim based their reasoning when talking about sexuality related to women's voice!

        Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

        By "voice" I mean speech.

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          unknownuser
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          I know you love being sarcastic but read the content then use your reasoning.

          I've read the content and I know what you mean but that doesn't change the fact how Muslim understand it!

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            unknownuser
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            Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

            good man!

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              nsws1988
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              Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

              By "voice" I mean speech.

              The same for women. They get attracted to manly voices.

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                ayyub
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                Didn't a woman correct Caliph Umar on a ruling he made about dowry using a verse from the Quran?

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                  Ayisha
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                  The same for women. They get attracted to manly voices.

                  George Cloony, Mel Gibson, Sean Connery, Amr Diab yay

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                    unknownuser
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                    George Cloony, Mel Gibson, Sean Connery, Amr Diab yay

                    I like Amr Diab... habibiya noor el ein ya sakin khayaaliiiiiiiii ;D

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                      Ayisha
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                      I like Amr Diab... habibiya noor el ein ya sakin khayaaliiiiiiiii ;D

                      Ahh the memories that one was the first I ever heard of his ;D

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                        seattletruth
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                        Look at Smeyye Eddeb. She is a world famous young woman (Egyptian) who does tajweed. Just search for her on youtube and you will find countless videos.

                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQX2YjcSpRY

                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iruw9hbM90

                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmL21g0mgQI

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                          SarahY
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                          Look at S?meyye Eddeb. She is a world famous young woman (Egyptian) who does tajweed. Just search for her on youtube and you will find countless videos.

                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQX2YjcSpRY

                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iruw9hbM90

                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmL21g0mgQI

                          Nice, but she's a child or considered child. i wonder if she would get support to recite quran when she's older. I once had a dream of reciting quran in tajweed but my voice isn't strong enough for it.

                          Thanks for sharing

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                            Wootah
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                            We all have to stand strong and not let the history (in all cultures) of silencing women repeat itself. Singing and music are too joyful to be silenced. They are gifts from God.

                            I simply refute that a person has to dress or act or be silent in certain ways in order to help others control their sexual urges. If you cannot control yourself then remove and cover yourself up - don't ask me to.

                            Every time we try to enforce and legislate morality it goes wrong.

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                              Leyna
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                              peace

                              if it's the verse Mazhar is talking about then you have it wrong

                              I agree.

                              This fatwa doesn't give any concrete reasoning or proof, just the scholar's opinion. And he obviously has a very dirty mindset if he believes that a woman reciting the Qur'an will lead to fitnah.

                              nope

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                                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/17.64.gif
                                And you trip/fascinatingly move, whomever from them you have influenced, with your sound
                                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/017.E%20Al%20Israa.htm

                                the verse means make everything haram for them (for the humankind) something normal where they will make up excuses to say that it is good and it is a joyful like singing for example and it's the right word here to describe .

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                                  Faraz Rabbani, the scholar who issued the fatwa, is one of the sheikhs at SunniPath. He also says that women's "prayer in the depths of her house has more reward than for her to pray in the masjid", that a menstruating woman is not permitted to enter a mosque, that women are not permitted to wear perfume when going out and so on and so forth. He recommends a book called "The Ideal Muslimah" which is full of unbelievable crap, such as that the woman only goes to paradise if her husband is pleased with her. Of course the whole book is full of the most misogynistic ahadeeth.

                                  Sorry, I can't take such a guy seriously.

                                  yuck

                                  Aishah urged women to take good care of their husbands and to recognize the rights that their husbands had over them.
                                  She saw these rights as being so great and so important that a woman was barely qualified to wipe the dust from her
                                  husband's feet with her face, as she stated "O womenfolk, if you knew the rights that your husbands have over you,
                                  every one of you would wipe the dust from her husband's feet with her face."
                                  ...

                                  The warning given to the woman whose husband is angry with her reaches such an extent that it
                                  would shake the conscience of every righteous wife who has faith in Allah (SWT) and the Last Day
                                  she is told that her prayer and good deeds will not be accepted, until her husband is pleased with
                                  her again.

                                  ...

                                  When the true Muslim woman thinks about these sahih hadith which describe the fate of most
                                  women in the Hereafter, she is always on the alert lest she fall into the sins of ingratitude towards
                                  her husband, or frequent cursing, or denying her husband's good treatment of her, or forgetting to
                                  give thanks for times of ease, or failing to be patient at times of difficulty. In any case, she hastens
                                  to give charity as the Prophet (PBUH) urged all women to do, in the hope that it may save them
                                  from that awful fate which will befall most of those women who deviate from truth and let trivial
                                  matters distract them from remembering Allah (SWT) and the Last Day, and whose bad qualities
                                  will ultimately lead them into the Fire of Hell. The Muslim woman, on the other hand, sets the
                                  highest example of respect towards one's husband and taking note of his good qualities. This is the
                                  attitude of loyalty that befits the true Muslim woman who respects her husband's rights and does
                                  not ignore his virtues.

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    Dear sister Leyna, are you denying that women's voice can excite men? see what brother Mazhar said

                                    Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

                                    By "voice" I mean speech.

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                                      Leyna
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                                      The same for women. They get attracted to manly voices.

                                      And not only to voices, to looks as well.

                                      This, for example, is a guy many women find sexy, based on his voice, looks, and movements

                                      Tarkan -- Kuzu Kuzu

                                      http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

                                      Ahh the memories that one was the first I ever heard of his ;D

                                      I like that song too. http//foolstown.com/sm/leb.gif

                                      Amr Diab - Habibi Ya Nour El Ein

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                                        Ayisha
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                                        Dear sister Leyna, are you denying that women's voice can excite men? see what brother Mazhar said

                                        "Voice is the weakest stimuli that can excite. First and strongest is the vision and touch.

                                        By "voice" I mean speech. "

                                        If its the weakest stimuli then either women need their tongues ripped out or men need to be deaf, that should sort the problem

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          And not only to voices, to looks as well.

                                          This, for example, is a guy many women find sexy, based on his voice, looks, and movements

                                          Tarkan -- Kuzu Kuzu

                                          http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/obm.gif

                                          I like that song too. http//foolstown.com/sm/leb.gif

                                          Amr Diab - Habibi Ya Nour El Ein

                                          sister are you trying to over excite the males here by dancing? o

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