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Women's Singing and Qur'an Recitation in Public

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    Thereformer1
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    No person in their right mind goes out and cheats on their spouse because they see a singer they find sexy. With all respect, that is simply ridiculous.

    saying that he is sexy makes you under that you have felt some fantasy . and makes you under cheating .

    I watched the Tarkan video half an hour ago. Do you think I am going to go out on the street now and drag some guy upstairs in order to have wild sex with him or what? Because that is essentially what you are saying.

    you watched Tarkan's video and you did find him sexy, so this lead us to the section of having some sexual attraction over him, if you're married, you have cheated your husband, if you're not, you did have a fantasy which can be measured as a guilt and God knows .

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      Ayisha
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      saying that he is sexy makes you under that you have felt some fantasy . and makes you under cheating .

      you watched Tarkan's video and you did find him sexy, so this lead us to the section of having some sexual attraction over him, if you're married, you have cheated your husband, if you're not, you did have a fantasy which can be measured as a guilt and God knows .

      Where does it say in Quran 'thou shalt not be attracted to the opposite sex on video or you have cheated'

      where does it say anywhere that finding someone attractive or sexy leads to having fantasy about them??

      You are not married are you deformer

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        Thereformer1
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        there was a clear warning so you shouldnt have watched it.

        I watched the first 5 seconds and then I had shut it down. so when I saw him dancing half naked and a blonde girl I canceled the webpage.

        where do you get that from?

        I have his story from A to Z.

        2nd isnt something you are blessed with then

        Yeah , sure / it is both things (bless and not bless lol rotfl) so better be ugly hahaha

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          Leyna
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          saying that he is sexy makes you under that you have felt some fantasy . and makes you under cheating .

          you watched Tarkan's video and you did find him sexy, so this lead us to the section of having some sexual attraction over him, if you're married, you have cheated your husband, if you're not, you did have a fantasy which can be measured as a guilt and God knows .

          Are you serious? Saying someone is sexy means you are automatically having fantasies about having sex with that person and thus you are cheating?

          Sorry, I consider this bizarre nonsense. It's a weird train of thought with no scriptural or logical evidence.

          Btw., I can very well say or see that a person is sexy / attractive etc. without feeling attracted to him or her. Yes, it applies to women too. So whenever I tell a friend she looks good, or sexy, I am having a fantasy about her and am cheating on my husband? Get real!
          http//img337.imageshack.us/img337/3135/iconconfused.gif

          Anyway ... you have just confirmed something imporant -- that you believe a woman can get turned on to the point of cheating by a man's voice and / or looks. Even when she only sees him on a screen.

          So that brings us to the logic of what was being discussed here in the first place. Why should a woman's voice be considered awrah, but not a man's? Why should women hide their bodies and hair and voices, but not the men? And, if women are so dangerous, why shouldn't we tell the men to stay at their homes and away from the masajid etc.? Remember the command for men to lower the gaze comes before the command for women. Maybe there is some insignificance in that? Might be a thought worth pondering ...

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            saying that he is sexy makes you under that you have felt some fantasy . and makes you under cheating .

            you watched Tarkan's video and you did find him sexy, so this lead us to the section of having some sexual attraction over him, if you're married, you have cheated your husband, if you're not, you did have a fantasy which can be measured as a guilt and God knows .

            bravo

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              Ayisha
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              I watched the first 5 seconds and then I had shut it down. so when I saw him dancing half naked and a blonde girl I canceled the webpage.
              wow I must have clicked the wrong link, he was in a car on the one I looked at o

              I have his story from A to Z.
              from where? not in Quran then?

              Yeah , sure / it is both things (bless and not bless lol rotfl so better be ugly hahaha

              you are sir, inside definately

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                unknownuser
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                let me know when you people are exhausted as I have another topic to start to. Thanks

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                  Ayisha
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                  let me know when you people are exhausted as I have another topic to start to. Thanks

                  start it bro, im bored now and my brian hurts ;D

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                    Thereformer1
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                    wow I must have clicked the wrong link, he was in a car on the one I looked at o

                    Oh good , I didn't see that .

                    from where? not in Quran then?

                    Yeah not from Quran , so let's not begin another topic about (it's not in Quran) I think you didn't believe historians .

                    you are sir, inside definately

                    should I be flattered ?

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                      Leyna
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                      let me know when you people are exhausted as I have another topic to start to. Thanks

                      I hope it's not another fatwa by Faraz Rabbani. yuck peace

                      In the issue of an age, one's duty is to turn to the recognized authorities of that age. In the issues -- the key issues -- the new matters, the challenges facing Muslims in any particular time, our duty is not just to dig up the answer ourselves, or to try to figure things out, or just going back to the texts alone. But rather ... we have to turn to the recognized authorities of our age.

                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9cR--Rnn0

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                        Ayisha
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                        Oh good , I didn't see that .
                        then please engage brain before putting mouth into gear.

                        Yeah not from Quran , so let's not begin another topic about (it's not in Quran) I think you didn't believe historians .
                        again deciding what I believe? You still have not answered the question, I am not surprised though it seems to be the norm with you

                        should I be flattered ?

                        flattened

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                          unknownuser
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                          I hope it's not another fatwa by Faraz Rabbani. yuck peace

                          In the issue of an age, one's duty is to turn to the recognized authorities of that age. In the issues -- the key issues -- the new matters, the challenges facing Muslims in any particular time, our duty is not just to dig up the answer ourselves, or to try to figure things out, or just going back to the texts alone. But rather ... we have to turn to the recognized authorities of our age.

                          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx9cR--Rnn0

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                          No matter how much you dislike but the fact is majority of the fatwas have link to quran and are certified and accepted by the mainstream!

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                            Mazhar
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                            No matter how much you dislike but the fact is majority of the fatwas have link to quran and are certified and accepted by the mainstream!

                            Raza Brailvi proudly proclaims in the preamble of his translation "Kanzul Iman" that he gave first fatwa when he was thirteen years of age, , and the mainstream accepts those. Result is before the world.

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                              Thereformer1
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                              flattened

                              hummm, no thanks ..my sentence is right and especially be flattered is correct .

                              I'll not answer you again, so hold this post as a memo of me.

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                                Leyna
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                                No matter how much you dislike but the fact is majority of the fatwas have link to quran

                                Well, I'm far from being an expert on Mr. Rabbani and his fatawa, but the ones I've read were mostly based on ahadeeth and unsubstianted claims that seemed to reflect the author's opinion rather than religious truth.

                                and are certified and accepted by the mainstream!

                                I don't care what's being accepted by the mainstream or not. peace

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                                  Alen
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                                  of course! men are basically animals that cant control themselves, thats why women have to be covered up and hidden away so as not to arouse them . I dunno why they bothered doing away with burying them at birth, saved a lot of upset

                                  Peace,
                                  Respectfully.

                                  Not all men think of sex all the time and for example, we live in recession now, so most people think how o survive financially.

                                  Peace.

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                                    Ayisha
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                                    Peace,
                                    Respectfully.

                                    Not all men think of sex all the time and for example, we live in recession now, so most people think how o survive financially.

                                    Peace.

                                    I know, that was tongue in cheek from me but it is what the 'great scholars' think ;D

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                                      afridi220
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                                      I don't understand why the word "fitna" is brought in whenever something is related to women? Iblees is obviously not woman or feminine.

                                      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/17.64.gif
                                      And you trip/fascinatingly move, whomever from them you have influenced, with your sound

                                      http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/017.%20Al%20Israa/017.E%20Al%20Israa.htm

                                      Actually they hate their mothers, Sisters daughters and other close relatives. tempt

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                                        afridi220
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                                        But if we scan Free Minds forum we will find more men in this habit than women on the forum. And you know Iblees influences the man most.

                                        Yeah he is always setting on my head tempt laugh

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                                          afridi220
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                                          Didn't a woman correct Caliph Umar on a ruling he made about dowry using a verse from the Quran?

                                          No that was a shemale !

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