Taking off the Hijab
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Anyway, I hope a Mod can lock the thread now.
This was meant to be a discussion about taking of the Hijab in a personal light. I wanted advice from people who used to cover their hair and their experiences...
If people want to talk about the legitimacy of Sunni Hijab (which is actually not what this thread is generally about) they can begin a new separate thread..... If people want to glorify perfect Sunni women, they can go start a new thread...
The thread has derailed..
Calling all mods!Let's just say my personal experience or feelings of a woman in fully up hijab with face covered even eyes. I think of two words "ghost princess". I get so much peace from such women. But I get the total opposite of peace, I get discomfort from a woman who would wear skimpy clothes and full up make up. I don't get peace from such women.
Hey I still cover my hair. I wear a hoodie most of the time. I even have to sometimes cover my eyes.
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Let's just say my personal experience or feelings of a woman in fully up hijab with face covered even eyes. I think of two words "ghost princess". I get so much peace from such women. But I get the total opposite of peace, I get discomfort from a woman who would wear skimpy clothes and full up make up. I don't get peace from such women.
Hey I still cover my hair. I wear a hoodie most of the time. I even have to sometimes cover my eyes.
Brother, that is not simply hajib, when fully covered, even eyes, that is naqib.
I know what you mean by seeing peace in it, but it is not required. My fiance wears niqab in Egypt. Just remember that it is not required, but better for them and us. My fiance says she wears it because she respected those niqabi women since childhood. But it is not required.
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Let's just say my personal experience or feelings of a woman in fully up hijab with face covered even eyes. I think of two words "ghost princess". I get so much peace from such women. But I get the total opposite of peace, I get discomfort from a woman who would wear skimpy clothes and full up make up. I don't get peace from such women.
Hey I still cover my hair. I wear a hoodie most of the time. I even have to sometimes cover my eyes.
Did ANYONE say they wanted to wear skimpy outfits?
Who said that?
In any case, I don't personally care what makes you feel uncomfortable or what you approve of all I care is about the dress code instructed by Allah (swt) and he does not tell women to be 'ghost princesses' neither does he tell them to wear skimpy clothing. You gave two extremes from your own desire yet Allah (swt) instructs directly in the middle.
Taking off the Hijab does not mean you dress with next to nothing and wearing the Hijab does not make you a 'ghost princess'.
But yes, as it stands you should be lowering your gaze any way so women should not concern you.
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Let's just say my personal experience or feelings of a woman in fully up hijab with face covered even eyes. I think of two words "ghost princess". I get so much peace from such women. But I get the total opposite of peace, I get discomfort from a woman who would wear skimpy clothes and full up make up. I don't get peace from such women.
Hey I still cover my hair. I wear a hoodie most of the time. I even have to sometimes cover my eyes.
I dont know where you are or if you have ever been to Egypt and seen the 'ghost princesses' here but many of the Egyptian prostitutes wear full niqab during the daytime and slip into something more skimpy at night when working. The younger girls here are wearing the glittery scarves (yes plural) in a fashion that makes their heads look enormous, its supposed to make men think there is a glorious mountain of beautiful hair beneath it. Along with the scarves they wear the tightest jeans or skirts they can spray on themselves with a body hugging top which shows every curve and crease in their bodies. But they are considered pious muslimah because they cover the hair. ???
I removed my hijab a year ago, I wear the baggiest tops I can find with baggy trousers. My arms, legs and breast are fully covered. Not wearing a scarf does not mean I will wear bosom exposing tops with skimpy hotpants and I take offense at the insiniation that not wearing a scarf means I were skimpy clothes.
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Did ANYONE say they wanted to wear skimpy outfits?
Who said that?
In any case, I don't personally care what makes you feel uncomfortable or what you approve of all I care is about the dress code instructed by Allah (swt) and he does not tell women to be 'ghost princesses' neither does he tell them to wear skimpy clothing. You gave two extremes from your own desire yet Allah (swt) instructs directly in the middle.
Taking off the Hijab does not mean you dress with next to nothing and wearing the Hijab does not make you a 'ghost princess'.
But yes, as it stands you should be lowering your gaze any way so women should not concern you.
NEVER! I should not be lowering my gaze. There is no commandment in the quran that states that the god wants me to lower my gaze. Look at it again...!
As far as I see it, I get the most amount of peace from ghost princesses (not ninja eye slitters wanting to stare at me for some reason), they are a mercy to me. That is my witness, you can hear it for SURE!
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I dont know where you are or if you have ever been to Egypt and seen the 'ghost princesses' here but many of the Egyptian prostitutes wear full niqab during the daytime and slip into something more skimpy at night when working. The younger girls here are wearing the glittery scarves (yes plural) in a fashion that makes their heads look enormous, its supposed to make men think there is a glorious mountain of beautiful hair beneath it. Along with the scarves they wear the tightest jeans or skirts they can spray on themselves with a body hugging top which shows every curve and crease in their bodies. But they are considered pious muslimah because they cover the hair. ???
I removed my hijab a year ago, I wear the baggiest tops I can find with baggy trousers. My arms, legs and breast are fully covered. Not wearing a scarf does not mean I will wear bosom exposing tops with skimpy hotpants and I take offense at the insiniation that not wearing a scarf means I were skimpy clothes.
Yes I know... most would wear niqab. But at least in the day they don't wear skimpy.
Ghost princesses are those females that practically cover their face with a mask and have flowy big jilbabs. Not straight ones like niqabi ninjas or what not.
Not wearing a scarf still makes me aggitated if I was next to you. Chemically aggitated. I don't know why, when such women are around, I don't want to be next to them.
You're not a man, you wouldn't understand.
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I dont know where you are or if you have ever been to Egypt and seen the 'ghost princesses' here but many of the Egyptian prostitutes wear full niqab during the daytime and slip into something more skimpy at night when working. The younger girls here are wearing the glittery scarves (yes plural) in a fashion that makes their heads look enormous, its supposed to make men think there is a glorious mountain of beautiful hair beneath it. Along with the scarves they wear the tightest jeans or skirts they can spray on themselves with a body hugging top which shows every curve and crease in their bodies. But they are considered pious muslimah because they cover the hair. ???
atleast they are covering their hair! bravo something is better than nothing!
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If you feel a sexual attraction with every woman that is not a ghost princess then I suggest you get some help. This is the problem not that we don't want to cover our hair.
if you want to cover you hair then you better cover it sister. The time is near, we all are going to see it very soon....
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NEVER! I should not be lowering my gaze. There is no commandment in the quran that states that the god wants me to lower my gaze. Look at it again....
2430 Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, for that is purer for them. God is fully aware of what you do.
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Not wearing a scarf still makes me aggitated if I was next to you. Chemically aggitated. I don't know why, when such women are around, I don't want to be next to them.
You're not a man, you wouldn't understand.
Man, you might need some medical or psychological consultation... I'm a guy and I don't think most men experience such a thing.
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Unless he has a fetish for fully clothed people or something.
Must admit, first time I've ever heard of a dude with 'chemical aggitation' towards females with no headscarves.
Each person to their own I suppose. As the old saying goes 'whatever tickles your fancy'.
Peace
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If the idea of headscarves is to protect men from having "lustful thoughts" then headscarves do not solve anything when most of the women in the world don't wear them. They are great for women who wear them out of modesty and devotion to Allah. However the best way for men to protect themselves from lustful thoughts is to lower their gaze as the Quran says. I think some men like to place the blame on the women for their own actions instead of taking responsibility.
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If the idea of headscarves is to protect men from having "lustful thoughts" then headscarves do not solve anything when most of the women in the world don't wear them. They are great for women who wear them out of modesty and devotion to Allah. However the best way for men to protect themselves from lustful thoughts is to lower their gaze as the Quran says. I think some men like to place the blame on the women for their own actions instead of taking responsibility.
Well said.