Taking off the Hijab
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Did ANYONE say they wanted to wear skimpy outfits?
Who said that?
In any case, I don't personally care what makes you feel uncomfortable or what you approve of all I care is about the dress code instructed by Allah (swt) and he does not tell women to be 'ghost princesses' neither does he tell them to wear skimpy clothing. You gave two extremes from your own desire yet Allah (swt) instructs directly in the middle.
Taking off the Hijab does not mean you dress with next to nothing and wearing the Hijab does not make you a 'ghost princess'.
But yes, as it stands you should be lowering your gaze any way so women should not concern you.
NEVER! I should not be lowering my gaze. There is no commandment in the quran that states that the god wants me to lower my gaze. Look at it again...!
As far as I see it, I get the most amount of peace from ghost princesses (not ninja eye slitters wanting to stare at me for some reason), they are a mercy to me. That is my witness, you can hear it for SURE!
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I dont know where you are or if you have ever been to Egypt and seen the 'ghost princesses' here but many of the Egyptian prostitutes wear full niqab during the daytime and slip into something more skimpy at night when working. The younger girls here are wearing the glittery scarves (yes plural) in a fashion that makes their heads look enormous, its supposed to make men think there is a glorious mountain of beautiful hair beneath it. Along with the scarves they wear the tightest jeans or skirts they can spray on themselves with a body hugging top which shows every curve and crease in their bodies. But they are considered pious muslimah because they cover the hair. ???
I removed my hijab a year ago, I wear the baggiest tops I can find with baggy trousers. My arms, legs and breast are fully covered. Not wearing a scarf does not mean I will wear bosom exposing tops with skimpy hotpants and I take offense at the insiniation that not wearing a scarf means I were skimpy clothes.
Yes I know... most would wear niqab. But at least in the day they don't wear skimpy.
Ghost princesses are those females that practically cover their face with a mask and have flowy big jilbabs. Not straight ones like niqabi ninjas or what not.
Not wearing a scarf still makes me aggitated if I was next to you. Chemically aggitated. I don't know why, when such women are around, I don't want to be next to them.
You're not a man, you wouldn't understand.
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I dont know where you are or if you have ever been to Egypt and seen the 'ghost princesses' here but many of the Egyptian prostitutes wear full niqab during the daytime and slip into something more skimpy at night when working. The younger girls here are wearing the glittery scarves (yes plural) in a fashion that makes their heads look enormous, its supposed to make men think there is a glorious mountain of beautiful hair beneath it. Along with the scarves they wear the tightest jeans or skirts they can spray on themselves with a body hugging top which shows every curve and crease in their bodies. But they are considered pious muslimah because they cover the hair. ???
atleast they are covering their hair! bravo something is better than nothing!
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If you feel a sexual attraction with every woman that is not a ghost princess then I suggest you get some help. This is the problem not that we don't want to cover our hair.
if you want to cover you hair then you better cover it sister. The time is near, we all are going to see it very soon....
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NEVER! I should not be lowering my gaze. There is no commandment in the quran that states that the god wants me to lower my gaze. Look at it again....
2430 Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, for that is purer for them. God is fully aware of what you do.
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Not wearing a scarf still makes me aggitated if I was next to you. Chemically aggitated. I don't know why, when such women are around, I don't want to be next to them.
You're not a man, you wouldn't understand.
Man, you might need some medical or psychological consultation... I'm a guy and I don't think most men experience such a thing.
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Unless he has a fetish for fully clothed people or something.
Must admit, first time I've ever heard of a dude with 'chemical aggitation' towards females with no headscarves.
Each person to their own I suppose. As the old saying goes 'whatever tickles your fancy'.
Peace
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If the idea of headscarves is to protect men from having "lustful thoughts" then headscarves do not solve anything when most of the women in the world don't wear them. They are great for women who wear them out of modesty and devotion to Allah. However the best way for men to protect themselves from lustful thoughts is to lower their gaze as the Quran says. I think some men like to place the blame on the women for their own actions instead of taking responsibility.
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If the idea of headscarves is to protect men from having "lustful thoughts" then headscarves do not solve anything when most of the women in the world don't wear them. They are great for women who wear them out of modesty and devotion to Allah. However the best way for men to protect themselves from lustful thoughts is to lower their gaze as the Quran says. I think some men like to place the blame on the women for their own actions instead of taking responsibility.
Well said.
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Just curious Ayisha how long had you been wearing the headscarf previously? and how did everyone react to your decision?
Salam Sarah, I had been wearing it for almost 7 years before I took it off. People here (Egypt) reacted well actually because they had 2 years of me dripping sweat everywhere before that ;D I first took it off because I had to for work then I left it off. I still sweat everywhere but I dont feel like my brain is boiling now
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Yes I know... most would wear niqab. But at least in the day they don't wear skimpy.
Ghost princesses are those females that practically cover their face with a mask and have flowy big jilbabs. Not straight ones like niqabi ninjas or what not.
Not wearing a scarf still makes me aggitated if I was next to you. Chemically aggitated. I don't know why, when such women are around, I don't want to be next to them.
You're not a man, you wouldn't understand.
oh I do understand sir, I understand because our local veg man felt the need to touch me while I was fully covered and during Ramadan, I understand because the man who collects the rubbish felt the need to put his foot in the door and try to get inside, with his dick in his hand under his galabaya, also during Ramadan, I understand because the local butcher felt the need to grab me from behind while the Quran was playing on the tv in his shop, I fully understand that its MEN that have a problem and not me who needs to cover myself up, all these happened while in a MUSLIM country while I WAS wearing the hijab. >(
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Salam Sarah, I had been wearing it for almost 7 years before I took it off. People here (Egypt) reacted well actually because they had 2 years of me dripping sweat everywhere before that ;D I first took it off because I had to for work then I left it off. I still sweat everywhere but I dont feel like my brain is boiling now
7 years.. quite some time.
you had to for work? in an 'Islamic' country very weird.
Here anti discrimination laws exists, i couldn't use the "had to take it off because of work" excuse
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7 years.. quite some time.
you had to for work? in an 'Islamic' country very weird.
Here anti discrimination laws exists, i couldn't use the "had to take it off because of work" excuse
That wasnt an excuse. For many years I have not believed this was an obligation or instruction from Allah but wore it because its what I did in the beginning, without it I felt naked. The place I worked was an American owned restaurant with Muslim and Christian employees and he wanted a manager without hijab. It may be a Muslim country but many girls take off the hijab in work and discrimination is rife here as is racism and all other wonderful non-Islamic things
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oh I do understand sir, I understand because our local veg man felt the need to touch me while I was fully covered and during Ramadan, I understand because the man who collects the rubbish felt the need to put his foot in the door and try to get inside, with his dick in his hand under his galabaya, also during Ramadan, I understand because the local butcher felt the need to grab me from behind while the Quran was playing on the tv in his shop, I fully understand that its MEN that have a problem and not me who needs to cover myself up, all these happened while in a MUSLIM country while I WAS wearing the hijab. >
I can fully relate to that, having experienced similar things.
About 90% of the women in Egypt cover their head or more, yet sexual harassment is a daily occurence for almost every female there. So the argument that hijab prevents harassment in any way is ridiculous. In fact, it increases it because women are being made responsible and men are being told that it is normal to leer at and harass women. They are given a free pass, so to speak.
nopeIn regards to the original subject ... I never understood why hijab has to be an all-or-nothing issue. Once you decide to wear it, you can not take it off and vice versa. Why?
Obviously everyone's understanding of it varies, depending on how we interpret the verses in question, where we live etc. So why not experiment with different ways of covering until you find what suits you best?
peace
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I've been thinking about it for a while and I almost took it off yesterday but I chickened out at the last minute -\ Would it be ironic to say that I feel just the way I did when I first put it on?
I guess I'm kind of afraid of the reactions of people I know who care about me and the fact that I'm not yet ready to be berated about leaving Sunnism. I remember when I first put it on and hearing my (Non-Muslim) Mother tell me that the Quran doesn't even say to cover your hair, it's strange that she should say this to me a year ago and yet it was as if I put my fingers in my ears refusing to listen. It angered me that she was right and whenever she would ask me to bring the Quran to prove that Hijab = hair covering, I would always put it off until some other time.
Now I'm at a point where I simply don't want to endorse it any more but kind of see it as a bit of a safety blanket and it sounds weird but it's a bit of an ice-breaker? If that even makes sense. Plus, as I mentioned before, I'm not yet ready to come out of the closet about my 'apostasy'. I think the Muslim community around here see me in an unrealistic way (they are usually like this with converts) and I guess putting a foot wrong might warrant some horrible reactions.
I'm sort of in two minds about it right now. I want it off but I just don't know! >_<
Are there any Sisters here who took it off (or kept it on)? Any advice would be nice from girls and guys.
Thanks peace
First reading of the original post so sorry if its been said or covered already.
I think once you get to the point of fully accepting that YOUR relationship with God is YOUR business and His only, and no one elses, then you will feel tough enough to take it off. What we wear and how we think regarding Islam and God should be nothing to do with anyone else but you and Him. We adopt many labels and uniforms when we convert/revert that we are told is right, we look later if we dare and find they are customs and traditions that are nothing to do with Islam or what God said. Fear God only, not the people that would judge you for a piece of cloth. peace