33:37 Prophet marrying with his adopted son's wife...
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Beyond a shadow of doubt it stands proved that you are absolutely NOT an Arab, you seem to be an Indian villager studying in Bukhari ridden religious school. The nominative noun being the subject of a verb relating to divorcee woman can be none except her husband's name. Only a stupid student of the highest order could think that the subject of the verb under discussion could be "" or "".
No, I'm Arabic, so stop trying assuming that it is a name by your non-specific proof .
prove to me how do you know that Zaid is a name ? ok I'm waiting your answer . there is something in the verse prove that Zaid is a name , but the way that you have said that Zaid is a name is by reading hadith .
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No, I'm Arabic, so stop trying assuming that it is a name by your non-specific proof .
prove to me how do you know that Zaid is a name ? ok I'm waiting your answer . there is something in the verse prove that Zaid is a name , but the way that you have said that Zaid is a name is by reading hadith .
Arabic is a language spoken by Arabs
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So I take it that there is still a chance for you and thereformer1 to play on the same cricket team?
what's tha supposed to mean ?
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Perhaps not since he has self assumed the responsibility of issuing tickets, and he leaves the chance of return since he is issuing tickets which can obviously be used for multiple journeys.
I'm not Indian and of course we don't play crickets. so keep dreaming about who I am!!!!!
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Arabic is a language spoken by Arabs
that's what you don't know ..someone is Arab doesn't mean that he speaks arabic .
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Dear thereformer1
It's a joke and a figure of speech.
He said you was Indian, after which I joked about Indians and Pakistanis hating each other etc etc thus the replies on the Forum..
It's a tongue 'n cheek way of saying something along the lines of 'so you have patched up your differences with each other'.
Relax.
Peace
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Dear thereformer1
It's a joke and a figure of speech.
He said you was Indian, after which I joked about Indians and Pakistanis hating each other etc etc thus the replies on the Forum..
It's a tongue 'n cheek way of saying something along the lines of 'so you have patched up your differences with each other'.
Relax.
Peaceah, ok sorry .I was just looking for the meaning, don't worry I'm "Realx" lol.
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I find it hard to reconcile this verse. I guess it is possible with all Mohammad's wives that due to the time and place polygamy was a good way to protect them. I just struggle, really struggle to find a noble purpose to these marriages.
the purpose is abolished what was known in Jaheleya, the adopted son who divorced his woman, his dad by adoption can marry her because he is not his real son, and she is Halal for him. and also abolished adoption.
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the purpose is abolished what was known in Jaheleya, the adopted son who divorced his woman, his dad by adoption can marry her because he is not his real son, and she is Halal for him. and also abolished adoption.
Or Mohammad could have said, "There are plenty of fish in the sea." You make it sound like there was a huge problem that needed to be fixed such that decided to add this verse to the revelation. I mean how big a problem was it back then that men were not able to marry their adopted son's wife after divorce?
Also abolished adoption? I didn't know that. Really?
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I mean how big a problem was it back then that men were not able to marry their adopted son's wife after divorce?
Also abolished adoption? I didn't know that. Really?
Quran is clear that you can adopt but not change the name of the child. Arab children have a given name then the first name of father, grandfather etc to show lineage. We are discussing Muhammeds adopted son, so adoption in that respect is not abolished but we are told to keep the fathers name and not change the name as would be done in a western adoption.
The verse was given who one can and cannot marry and that included woman who had married your son, so it wouldnt have been clear as you think as the adopted son would be taken as a son although name not changed. The Arabs needed more clarity on this as they were always apt to add and make haram that which is not haram, as they still do today, so the verse cleared this misconception that it was a blood-sons wife and not an adopted sons wife that was haram
IMHO peace
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Or Mohammad could have said, "There are plenty of fish in the sea."
Hey at least you could say the prophet of Islam, because what you stated here is disrespecful.And you have made a statement about the prophet that he could have said "bla bla" .
You make it sound like there was a huge problem that needed to be fixed such that decided to add this verse to the revelation. I mean how big a problem was it back then that men were not able to marry their adopted son's wife after divorce?
It was a big problem, because people will disgust him for the reason that she was the wife of his son (which not true, he is his son by adoption). these are their traditions and these traditions were so ridiculous, so we(islam) must abolish it.
this will not serve me in my right path to know how big or why, you have to find more good answers will after all serve you in your path?
Also abolished adoption? I didn't know that. Really?
Yes, you can adopt but you don't gave your family name. and at this time of the existence of the prophet , they were giving their family names to their adopted sons. so God has abolished this kind of adoption. adopt him but don't give him your family name because he is not from your family and he will not inhert unless if there is "".
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It was a big problem, because people will disgust him for the reason that she was the wife of his son (which not true, he is his son by adoption). these are their traditions and these traditions were so ridiculous, so we(islam) must abolish it.
Absolutely!!Yes, you can adopt but you don't gave your family name. and at this time of the existence of the prophet , they were giving their family names to their adopted sons. so God has abolished this kind of adoption. adopt him but don't give him your family name because he is not from your family and he will not inhert unless if there is "".
Muhammeds adopted son didnt take Muhammeds family name did he?
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Muhammeds adopted son didnt take Muhammeds family name did he?
Muhammed " http//islam.maktoob.com/image3047_500_361/23X25.jpg a little bit of respect .
No, he didn't take it .
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Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 101247 PM
Beyond a shadow of doubt it stands proved that you are absolutely NOT an Arab, you seem to be an Indian villager studying in Bukhari ridden religious school. The nominative noun being the subject of a verb relating to divorcee woman can be none except her husband's name. Only a stupid student of the highest order could think that the subject of the verb under discussion could be "" or "".No, I'm Arabic, so stop trying assuming that it is a name by your non-specific proof .
prove to me how do you know that Zaid is a name ? ok I'm waiting your answer . there is something in the verse prove that Zaid is a name , but the way that you have said that Zaid is a name is by reading hadith .Thank Allah, you have slightly come to a rational behaviour from the utmost stupid stand of considering subject of the verb as "" or "" you have accepted that the subject is a person. The verse not only tells it is the name of the person who has since divorced his wife but also that he is the so called adopted son the person who is advising him to reassociate with his wife. Allah knew that there will be munafiqeen, bukharis and reformers who would play with His verses. Therefore He made everything and point distinctly evident in His verses.
Now see carefully
and while you were saying/talking........to whom was he talking? for The One upon whom Allah had done favour Ta is second person masucline singular pronoun-You Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam has done favour to him/Ha is pronoun for second person masculine-he is a man being referred....what was he saying? Allah quotes his words which he said to the other person whom he had favoured...." First word is verb imperative, second person, masculine, singular..A man is being commanded/imperatively asked to withhold in association, Ka is second person pronoun, masculine, singular--showing a man is being asked to withold towards himself in association.....and what is that he is being commanded to holdback to himself the noun is in accusative and hence is the object of the verb . And is possessive phrase, so wife is proper noun; "the wife of you".........
thereafter when Verb Perfect, third person, masculine...who is the person he did the action of this verb--who is the does---the subject of this verb? Proper Name of the person-- from her, breaking the relation/final segregation.
What happened afterwards to this seperated wife of this man? Verb perfect, first person, plural, Form II + Na first person pronoun for Allah + "Ka" second person pronoun for Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam and + "Ha" pronoun third person, feminine, singular referring to the same woman who was once wife of Zaid and has since been seperated after divorce. "We caused the joining/marriage of you with her". What was the rationale and necessity for Allah to arrange this particular marriage? Allah explains for information of people
so that henceforth there remains no harm and embarrassment for the believers in the matter of wives of their so called/adopted sons ...and this is in what situation? this is exactly the same situation which was arisen when Zaid did this. Would there still be some fool who will ask Qur'aan to tell Who is Zaid? -
arisen when Zaid did this. Would there still be some fool who will ask Qur'aan to tell Who is Zaid?
I think you didn't understand my questionn and despite all this explanations which are useless for me . the question was about how do you know that Zaid is a name? not who is Zaid, I know that he is a man and he is name but how do you know that Zaid is a name ? none of what you said is about knowing the name, being a subject doesn't mean that Zaid is a name of someone . why Zaid as you claimed in your post doesn't mention before we know that God said " ", so who is (the person) first ? Zaid came later>>> I don't need an explanation, you have to prove to me how do you know that and until now you're just plating by grammar which it will not serve you with me.
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I think you didn't understand my questionn and despite all this explanations which are useless for me . the question was about how do you know that Zaid is a name? not who is Zaid, I know that he is a man and he is name but how do you know that Zaid is a name ? none of what you said is about knowing the name, being a subject doesn't mean that Zaid is a name of someone . why Zaid as you claimed in your post doesn't mention before we know that God said " ", so who is (the person) first ? Zaid came later>>> I don't need an explanation, you have to prove to me how do you know that and until now you're just plating by grammar which it will not serve you with me.
how do you KNOW an alif is an alif?
How do you KNOW you really are here?
How do you KNOW a name is a name?How do I know you are really here at all and not just a figment of my obviously overactive imagination?
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try reading what was written, its clear how he knows and even made sense to me! -\ Stop implying God is stupid.