Surah 75:27
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Is that your new way of verbal Irony ?
Because you should realize that, for all Muslims, the text you are reading is quite literally the voice of God; because the Qur'an is the direct speech of God in Arabic, translation of the work is seen as blasphemy, as an unforgivable tampering with God's own speech. In addition to this the translators will expand the word of God and make mistakes and the verse will take different meanings (look at the huge number of translator), let alone that some sentences with a difficult grammar and situation and the translator will be wrong in his translation because Grammar play a good rule in the meaning of the verse. That's why you should just translate the meaning of the verse not the verse word by word .If she was being ironic... then she would fail in being a muslim. A muslim cannot be a liar.
The meaning of the verse is in arabic. Why are you arguing on a word by word translation?
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so what did you think it ? be frank
Yes, that's why you should just take the meaning in your own language and by learning Arabic you'll take the verse word by word because at this time, you'll approach what you take as a meanings with what God said. Anyways the age of our existence I think make it necessary to translate it like this way and God knows.
I said it is forbidden from Islamic point of view because you changed the size of the verse and the change of the words also, I didn't say it is Haram. it can be "" and that's what I mean by forbidden. The "" is not the Haram.
about your question where, I think this verse will answer you) ُ (115)
Your implying that the verse has been disproven. The god makes it clear that no one can change the god's words, not that people are forbidden from translating and teaching. If the verse implied no translation allowed, then by your claim, you just gave ammo to the non-muslims who would say "oh look the quran is easily disproven".
If you don't want to teach other people quran in anything but in arabic, then you would be teaching people arabic. Not just you, but ever arab speaking person would be for free teaching arabic.
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If she was being ironic... then she would fail in being a muslim. A muslim cannot be a liar.
I've said Verbal Irony and it is not lying . it is a way of saying something but means something else.
The meaning of the verse is in arabic. Why are you arguing on a word by word translation?
I think she understood me, there is no need to re-write again what I meant. By the way you must read all our posts from the beginning between me and her and you'll understand if God willing.
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Your implying that the verse has been disproven. The god makes it clear that no one can change the god's words, not that people are forbidden from translating and teaching. If the verse implied no translation allowed, then by your claim, you just gave ammo to the non-muslims who would say "oh look the quran is easily disproven".
I agree in translating the meanings of the words but not the words in the verse . Have you ever heard that in the age of the prophet peace be upon him The Quran has been translated known that prophet has sent letters to Cesar for entering to Islam who is by definition was speaking Greek language? Have you ever heard in the age of companions of the prophet who they spread Islam everywhere said translate Quran to every nation that taked Islam ? Have you ever heard or read at the time of the Dawla al-Omaweya who they were fighting The Rome that one of them said translate Quran and sent it to those nations from Rome ? Have you ever heard or read at the time of the existence of A-Dawla Al-Abasseya which was plenty of translators that they have translated Quran and gave it to the nations that they have visited ? If I'm going to say "Have you ever ", I think I'll not finish .
If you don't want to teach other people quran in anything but in arabic, then you would be teaching people arabic. Not just you, but ever arab speaking person would be for free teaching arabic.
For my opinion, I prefer for the converted people or who they want to convert, learn Arabic first .
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Yeah... with you and her...
I think you didn't find something to make a post instead of that you said " let's find some mistakes". That really gives me an Idea about you . by the way it was a zeal of typing and I did correct it, see above .
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I agree in translating the meanings of the words but not the words in the verse . Have you ever heard that in the age of the prophet peace be upon him The Quran has been translated known that prophet has sent letters to Cesar for entering to Islam who is by definition was speaking Greek language? Have you ever heard in the age of companions of the prophet who they spread Islam everywhere said translate Quran to every nation that taked Islam ? Have you ever heard or read at the time of the Dawla al-Omaweya who they were fighting The Rome that one of them said translate Quran and sent it to those nations from Rome ? Have you ever heard or read at the time of the existence of A-Dawla Al-Abasseya which was plenty of translators that they have translated Quran and gave it to the nations that they have visited ? If I'm going to say "Have you ever ", I think I'll not finish .
For my opinion, I prefer for the converted people or who they want to convert, learn Arabic first.
Well you didn't do your job... so the god replaced you. Quran 4738. Your job was to teach arabic... but even today you decide not to? Those early muslims taught arabic. Surely you are teaching others classical arabic?
I think you didn't find something to make a post instead of that you said " let's find some mistakes". That really gives me an Idea about you . by the way it was a zeal of typing and I did correct it, see above .
Yes I know ... between you and her...
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Well you didn't do your job... so the god replaced you. Quran 4738. Your job was to teach arabic... but even today you decide not to? Those early muslims taught arabic. Surely you are teaching others classical arabic?
I would really be happy if someone wants for me to teach him Arabic, but as I see no one here wants, in the other hand they want to show that Arabs do not know Arabic (see the posts of Mazhar and some members claiming that they do know arabic but ...).
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I would really be happy if someone wants for me to teach him Arabic, but as I see no one here wants, in the other hand they want to show that Arabs do not know Arabic (see the posts of Mazhar and some members claiming that they do know arabic but ...).
Put a advert in your local newspaper - "Free arabic classes, 1-1, one on 10... will marry to teach".
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I would really be happy if someone wants for me to teach him Arabic, but as I see no one here wants, in the other hand they want to show that Arabs do not know Arabic (see the posts of Mazhar and some members claiming that they do know arabic but ...).
Dear you keep twisting things and you attribute words which I never said. I did not say that Arabs do not know Arabic, I pointedly said that you are not an Arab. I revere Arabic, and you know the reason.
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I would really be happy if someone wants for me to teach him Arabic, but as I see no one here wants, in the other hand they want to show that Arabs do not know Arabic (see the posts of Mazhar and some members claiming that they do know arabic but ...).
I want to know ten rare nouns with only two consonants which are added with an imported hamza wasl like http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00001.%20Ism%20Name/16.gif Thanks in advance.
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A day has passed, but you have not yet taught.
No, sorry I don't want to answer you, because you don't want to learn (you and Ayisha and Leyna and some other members) your aim is just to mislead people, so good luck after all you will not believe me neither take what I will say as you always do. You said I'm not Arab, so keep it that way .
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No, sorry I don't want to answer you, because you don't want to learn (you and Ayisha and Leyna and some other members) your aim is just to mislead people, so good luck after all you will not believe me neither take what I will say as you always do. You said I'm not Arab, so keep it that way .
It confirms you are NOT an Arab; since you have not yet been able to find those ten rare nouns anywhere to cut and paste here, hence this escape. And it further proves the opinion of Ayisha and Leyna that you are also a liar, rather habiual.
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It confirms you are NOT an Arab; since you have not yet been able to find those ten rare nouns anywhere to cut and paste here, hence this escape. And it further proves the opinion of Ayisha and Leyna that you are also a liar, rather habiual.
If this post is going to make you happy, fine . God knows . Peace . I really want you to be happy rotfl
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No, sorry I don't want to answer you, because you don't want to learn (you and Ayisha and Leyna and some other members) your aim is just to mislead people, so good luck after all you will not believe me neither take what I will say as you always do. You said I'm not Arab, so keep it that way .
you are not supposed to withhold any information. You are misleading people away from the Book. Fact is you are unable to answer because you know you will be debated and proved wrong yet again.
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you are not supposed to withhold any information. You are misleading people away from the Book. Fact is you are unable to answer because you know you will be debated and proved wrong yet again.
Hahaha, I've corrected a lot of his mastakes and he is even an arab . But I'm not going to waste my time with you too, so if this post is going to make you happy you too as well, fine . Peace and be good.
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Hahaha, I've corrected a lot of his mastakes and he is even an arab .
I am not an Arab, and you too are not Arab nothwithstanding your fake claim of being a "full" Arab. Perhaps I have missed those "lot of mistakes corrected". Pl quote one, so that I may correct it on website also; rest I will try to trace by search facility.
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I am not an Arab, and you too are not Arab nothwithstanding your fake claim of being a "full" Arab. Perhaps I have missed those "lot of mistakes corrected". Pl quote one, so that I may correct it on website also; rest I will try to trace by search facility.
Keep believing in the red sentence, that's make me in a great mood. Because living in a lie doesn't mean that there is no truth .
Ah one more thing some members here know me . Peace.