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Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

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    Leyna
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    we know that Christians are dirty

    Who is "we"? You just said in another thread that you know nothing about Christians and don't want to know anything about them. Neither have you lived among them. So how do you know whether they are dirty and clean and what their shower habits are?

    And don't even get me started on the hygienic conditions in the Muslim countries I've been to / lived in. nope

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      Ayisha
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      make sarah your best Idle .

      Sorry I dont take humans as idols, I leave that to you hadithists

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        unknownuser
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        I am Muslim, I was showering alone.

        The prophet took a bath naked with his family

        Yes, it is permissible for a person to take a bath naked, because this was reported from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) as was reported by Maymoonah (may Allaah be pleased with her(, w ho said that she and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) took a bath together, washing from a large bowl in which there were traces of dough. And it was reported in several places as narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim, and he bathed with ?Aa?ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her).

        he took bath with his wives only! and not with the whole family alongwith kids and everyone! estaghfirullahi rabbi !!

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          Ayisha
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          he took bath with his wives only! and not with the whole family alongwith kids and everyone! estaghfirullahi rabbi !!

          how big do you think my bath is? ??? Not even enough room to get me and hubby in and both get wet never mind any kids and grandparents, aunties, uncles, cousins )

          Strange though, when I was Christian I bathed alone, well sometimes with my little sister up till I was 4 and she was 2 but I think thats ok.

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            Leyna
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            Leyna and Ayisha .if you both want to play, there are lot of places in Egypt where you can go to play with guys and girls.

            Ssht ... don't forget that you're pretending to be Moroccon on this board.

            On a serious note ... those fatwas I just posted do play a role in regards to this subject. It shows how intimidated some people have become, how incapable of thinking and making their own decisions they are. If people can't even take a shower, go to the bathroom or sleep with their spouse without consulting a scholar first, how can you expect them to make decisions regarding more important matters? A person who depends on an authority for such trivial matters is an easily led and controlled sheep. Which is exactly what the scholars who run that and similar websites want ... keep people forever dependant and scare them into unquestionably believing in authorities. It's not about faith, it's all about control.

            nope

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              unknownuser
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              Ssht ... don't forget that you're pretending to be Moroccon on this board.

              nope

              rotfl rotfl rotfl

              you three rock!! leyna - thereformer1 - ayisha bravo -* -* -*

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                Ayisha
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                Sister, I suggest you send your question to Islam-QA or Islamweb; insha'allah you will receive an answer shortly. http//www.imagebanana.com/img/m2wjn7c5/engel_lieb.gif

                cant find where to ask, seems its closed today so I had a look round. says nothing about picking the nose but about washing the nose.
                I have discovered I can use a tissue during prayer if I have a cold as long as I use the left hand and dont move about too much.
                I have also discovered why we should wash inside the nose

                Volume 4, Book 54, Number 516
                Narrated Abu Huraira

                The Prophet said, "If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night." &

                does that mean satan goes down the drain each morning? or is it to get rid of his waste that he left in my nose?

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                  Ayisha
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                  Ssht ... don't forget that you're pretending to be Moroccon on this board.

                  rotfl rotfl rotfl oh now what did he say to me?

                  Your cover is blown rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                    unknownuser
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                    how big do you think my bath is? ???

                    I do not think anything of your bath, I'm just saying that if you are a woman you should not say in public that you bathed naked! estaghfirullahi rabbi !!

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                      abdalquran
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                      On a serious note ... those fatwas I just posted do play a role in regards to this subject. It shows how intimidated some people have become, how incapable of thinking and making their own decisions they are. If people can't even take a shower, go to the bathroom or sleep with their spouse without consulting a scholar first, how can you expect them to make decisions regarding more important matters? A person who depends on an authority for such trivial matters is an easily led and controlled sheep. Which is exactly what the scholars who run that and similar websites want ... keep people forever dependant and scare them into unquestionably believing in authorities. It's not about faith, it's all about control.

                      Wonderfully said and all the while, the study of the Quran and self-actualisation is totally left out. Instead of trying to construct the best system for mankind to live peacefully, we're worried about the right way to shower!

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                        unknownuser
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                        we're worried about the right way to shower!

                        its just that we take our life seriously! everything in life is important only if you know!

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                          Ayisha
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                          I do not think anything of your bath, I'm just saying that if you are a woman you should not say in public that you bathed naked! estaghfirullahi rabbi !!

                          is it ok if I say I did ghusl behind a curtain, behind a closed door then? -\

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                            unknownuser
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                            is it ok if I say I did ghusl behind a curtain, behind a closed door then? -\

                            I know you are refering to another hadith of Ayisha (May God be pleased with her). too bad you people are hopeless!

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                              Leyna
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                              I'm just saying that if you are a woman you should not say in public that you bathed naked! estaghfirullahi rabbi !!

                              LOL ... most people are well aware of the fact that others shower naked. What's the problem? )

                              And why "as a woman"? So men are allowed to mention their shower? hmm

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                                unknownuser
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                                LOL ... most people are well aware of the fact that others shower naked. What's the problem?

                                And why "as a woman"? So men are allowed to mention their shower? hmm

                                because men are attracted to women more than women are attracted to men!

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                                  Ayisha
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                                  LOL ... most people are well aware of the fact that others shower naked. What's the problem? )
                                  seems transformer is not aware of this ;D

                                  And why "as a woman"? So men are allowed to mention their shower? hmm

                                  because a man saying it doesnt cunjure up visions of Enrique Iglasias taking a shower naked....................................................erm we can control ourselves -\

                                  oh sorry.

                                  but a woman saying it, well, its easy to see even transformer has had to run off and do ghusl at the mere thought of a woman showering NEKED! rotfl

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    seems transformer is not aware of this ;D
                                    because a man saying it doesnt cunjure up visions of Enrique Iglasias taking a shower naked....................................................erm we can control ourselves -\

                                    oh sorry.

                                    but a woman saying it, well, its easy to see even transformer has had to run off and do ghusl at the mere thought of a woman showering NEKED! rotfl

                                    you know the reason, you are very intelligent!

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      you know the reason, you are very intelligent!

                                      I KNOW, I keep telling you this, NOW you see it! muscle

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                                        Thereformer1
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                                        Which do you believe?
                                        Ibn Majah has narrated another hadith from 'Aishah which explicitly says that the two verses were lost after the death of the Prophet. She is reported to say 'The verse of stoning and of suckling an adult ten times were revealed, and they were (written) on a paper and kept under my bed. When the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w.) expired and we were preoccupied with his death, a goat entered and ate away the paper.
                                        Musnad Ahmad bin Hanbal. vol. 6. p. 269 Sunan Ibn Majah, p. 626 Ibn Qutbah, Tawil Mukhtalafi 'l-Hadith (Cairo Maktaba al-Kulliyat al-Azhariyya. 1966) p. 310 which has been misprinted as 210- As-Suyuti, ad-Durru 'l-Manthur, vol. 2. p. 13.

                                        I'm going to ask you a question, is this Hadith Sahiha or Hassan ? answer by Yes , or No .

                                        5677 It is an honorable Qur'an.
                                        5678 In a protected Book.

                                        There is no relation between the hadith and thoses verses. Try to understand hadith, and I'm asking to look about hadith very well because there 4 ways of saying it .

                                        181 Praise be to God who has sent down the Book to His servant, and He has not made in it any crookedness.
                                        3928 A Quran in Arabic, without any crookedness, that they may be righteous.

                                        Irrelevent , no relatio between the hadith and the verses .

                                        242 The adulteress and the adulterer, you shall lash each of them with one hundred lashes, and do not let any pity overtake you regarding the system of God if you believe in God and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

                                        if the adultery from someone married ?

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          if the adultery from someone married ?

                                          these quranists are hopless. I asked the same question to a quranist and he said "read the story of Moses when he said to his people to sacrifice cow, and how his people start asking him the color, the age, and everything." ??? nope

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