Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.
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even if the details were added in the book still you would have similar misunderstanding. yes
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The terrorists love it too. hmm
oh you live in the same world where terrorists live hmm
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The terrorists love it too. hmm
How do you define the word terrosists ? Bush is terrorist, Obama is terrosist, and the list is so long .
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I am not from KSA. ;D ;D ;D
Are KSA terrosits ? that shows your doctrine and hatred over Muslims world .
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I am not from KSA. ;D ;D ;D
what Korean Science Academy has anything to do with terrorism?
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If you've never been there then dont comment & &
really? tell me about that academy please! I thought it was about teaching science to innocent kids?
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Hadith 3.
The holy Prophet(Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) said "Without doubt my Ummah will never be gathered in misguidance. Whenever you see disagreement, then hold fast to the Sawad-e-Azam (the great majority)"
Peace,
Respectfully.Disagreement between sunnis and shias or between those guys in Palestine and Israel who behave like five-year-olds?
You should read chapter two and especially those last few verses. May God guide you, brother.Peace.
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I can go on quoting many scholars who have the opinion that the largest group, the Ahle-Sunnah-wal-Jama'ah is the only sect on the right path, and all others are those that have been prophecised to enter the hell fire.
May Allah (swt) bring us together and unite us and save us from fitna. Ameen.
the content is from http//forum.bismikaallahuma.org/polling-station/2046-do-you-think-quranists-should-executed-2.html .
Peace,
Respectfully.So, you're saying that because a certain group is the largest, than they are automatically right?
Right now, there are more nonmuslims than muslims.
Are they rightly guided?I really think you should re-read chapter 68.
God bless you.
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Disagreement between sunnis and shias or between those guys in Palestine and Israel who behave like five-year-olds?
Sunni are the followers of Quran and the prophet .
Shi'a have distorted Quran and are the followers of Ali, and saying that Gabriel was wrong and insulting the Sahaba .
Isreal have settled a country not theirs according to a false fallacies, and they kill Muslims there .
who is right ? see above and answer .
You should read chapter two and especially those last few verses. May God guide you, brother.
Peace.No, you should read these verses , as I see you don't understand what they are talking about .
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So, you're saying that because a certain group is the largest, than they are automatically right?
Right .
Right now, there are more nonmuslims than muslims.
We are talking about Muslims world, God order us to not split up and became sects and to join the largest group. Let me remind you the only think was before is sunnah , the people that splited up and became sects are Shi'a, Quranists, who they are bu definition the minority .
Are they rightly guided?
Of course they are not, because they are not Muslims and we are not talking about them.
I really think you should re-read chapter 68.
God bless you.
Peace.Again, No you're the one who should read the whole surah .
Thanks, God bless you too and show you the right way .
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I didn't want to comment your post because you know that I disgust your translation of the verses , you distorted them.
The original text of the verse is there and then is the translation. Point out distortion or mistake therein if you are truthful in what you keep uttering from mouth.
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I think, if humans need a book to tell them the difference between right and wrong, then they should stop writing them... and reading them.
However, books which show us how to conduct ourselves amongst one another, detail for us what is acceptable and what is not, with regard to public relations -- that we may get through a day in the marketplace, without blowing ourselves to pieces -- can and should be held in highest regard.
That's about all I have to say on that and I'll shut up, now...
for a bit.
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I'm going to ask you a question, is this Hadith Sahiha or Hassan ? answer by Yes , or No .
I believe it is Hassan which according to Hadith followers is sound. Why was it classified Hassan in the first place? Don't you think it is blasphemous to think a goat ate Quranic verses which is why they are lost.
I in turn ask you. Did the stoning verse get lost or not? Yes, or No.
Sahih al Bukhari Volume 8, pages 209-210, we read this sermon delivered by Hadhrath Umar during his last Hajj as Khalifa "Certainly Allah sent Muhammad with the truth, and revealed to him the Book. One of the revelations which came to him was the verse of stoning. We read it and understood it?. "The Messenger of God stoned and we stoned after him. I am concerned that if time goes on, someone may say, 'By God, we do not find the verse of stoning in the Book of God;'
There is no relation between the hadith and thoses verses. Try to understand hadith, and I'm asking to look about hadith very well because there 4 ways of saying it .
Irrelevent , no relatio between the hadith and the verses .
There is a relation. These hadith say verses of the Quran were "lost" forever.
if the adultery from someone married ?
The Quran says to lash them. What do you think?
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I didn't see any relation between the Hadith and the verses that you have pointed out, neither the bolded sentence are talking about the same situation .
Please bear with me.
The prophet gave his sandals to Abu Horaira for one reason that people who was going to meet willl believe him, because he was holding the sandals of the prophet and everyone knows those sandals.
What prophet peace be upon him said to ABu Horaira is to greet everyone his heart is full "the is no god but God" believing in it from his heart and fear the present of this words in heart is in Janna (it is just a greeting) .And I justified this hadith by verses in Quran 2223 / 9112 / 1087 where God ordered the prophet to greet the believers .
2223 {and give good tidings to the believers (O Muhammad م}.The reason that Omar Bno Al KHatab stroke Abu Horaira in his heart because he wanted from him to stop doing that because if he told evryone this thing, they will do nothing from prayers and Zakat and no practicing Islam because they will think that are going to heaven, so why they would practicing Islam and prayers and ..etc . So he went to the prophet and he gave him his opinion and the prophet to show that he agreed with what Omar Bno Khatab said because after all the prophet is also hear and listen to the opinions of anyone from Sahaba and from clevers and you can look for Khalid Bno lwalid when he suggest a plan in a war between the non-believers and muslims, and there are a lot of examples where prophet agreed with what the Sahaba said . And I justify this also from a verse >>>>>>>
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So you are saying this is just a greeting and not a ruling?
He addressed me as Abu Huraira and gave me his sandals and said Take away these sandals of mine, and when you meet anyone outside this garden who testifies that there is no god but Allah, being assured of it in his heart, gladden him by announcing that he shall go to Paradise. Now the first one I met was Umar. He asked What are these sandals, Abu Huraira? I replied These are the sandals of the Messenger of Allah with which he has sent me to gladden anyone I meet who testifies that there is no god but Allah, being assured of it in his heart, with the announcement that he would go to Paradise. Thereupon 'Umar struck me on the breast and I fell on my back.
And it relates to the verses I posted because, assuming the Prophet is saying belief is enough to get into Janna, that would contradict the Quran which says you must believe and do good deeds.
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I see your misunderstanding and what you don't know that the verse is basically didn't talk about what came in the hadith, in fact Hadith confirmed what came in this verse in a way that I'm going to explain it now
First of all the verse is talking about the believers of who , of the prophet . God telling them to do not hurt their prophet as Bani Isreal did before . So the verse it is not about Moses . It is about the prophet Muhamed peace be upon him.
Second of all the hadith confirmed that what God said about hurting Moses from Bani Israel is right, how they will know these infomation if it wasn't the prophet who told them in some of Ahadith how Bani Isreal hurted the prophet Moses peace be upon him?
So God here in the verse is ordering the believers to not do like bani Isreal and what they have done to the prophet of moses. How do you know what they did to Moses ? look at hadith they were insulting him that he is with a scrotal hernia, so to show them that their hypocrites and scandal their way of treating his prophet, they must see their fallacies about their prophet .
The hadith is not about insulting the prophet Moses, but to show how Isreal were treating their prophet.
Bukhari Hadith 4616
Narrated Abu Huraira
Allah's Apostle said, "(The Prophet) Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body completely because of his extensive shyness. One of the children of Israel hurt him by saying, 'He covers his body in this way only because of some defect in his skin, either leprosy or scrotal hernia, or he has some other defect.' Allah wished to clear Moses of what they said about him, so one day while Moses was in seclusion, he took off his clothes and put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he had finished the bath, he moved towards his clothes so as to take them, but the stone took his clothes and fled; Moses picked up his stick and ran after the stone saying, 'O stone! Give me my garment!' Till he reached a group of Bani Israel who saw him naked then, and found him the best of what Allah had created, and Allah cleared him of what they had accused him of. The stone stopped there and Moses took and put his garment on and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. This was what Allah refers to in His Saying-- "O you who believe! Be you not like those Who annoyed Moses, But Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged, And he was honorable In Allah's Sight." (33.69)
Do you believe the bit I highlighted is true? Are you claiming that this incident is what Allah was referring to?