How do you deal with Sunni friends?
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And if you really know the Qur'an, then you'll know that you are forbidden from taking any other patron besides God. Go figure.
As a side note, I am done with you. I know what you are like and your attitude. Let's just say we have our differences. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe. I just don't get why you're wasting your time here, when you think we're "blind", "lacking knowledge" etc. I don't know why you choose to continue stalking this forum when you know your efforts are vain anyway. Don't you have better things to do anyway?
Make peace. Unto you your works, unto me my works. Salaamun 'Alaikum.
This particular troll has been on FM for many years.
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And if you really know the Qur'an, then you'll know that you are forbidden from taking any other patron besides God. Go figure.
we don't take any patron besides God, is that what they told you ?
As a side note, I am done with you. I know what you are like and your attitude.
No, you're not done with me, I'm done with you . Plus you don't know I am like and my attitude . are you a seer or the known or the unknown ?
Let's just say we have our differences. I believe what I believe, and you believe what you believe. I just don't get why you're wasting your time here, when you think we're "blind", "lacking knowledge" etc. I don't know why you choose to continue stalking this forum when you know your efforts are vain anyway.
Your answer is in Quran of why I am here { { } }
Don't you have better things to do anyway?
Humm, No at the moment . Do you?
Make peace. Unto you your works, unto me my works. Salaamun 'Alaikum.
Wa Alaykom Asalam .
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we don't take any patron besides God, is that what they told you ?
You and any other hadithist. It is what you DO not what we are TOLD.Plus you don't know I am like and my attitude . are you a seer or the known or the unknown ?
We see what you are like and your attitude HERE.Your answer is in Quran of why I am here { { } }
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Peace, I doubt thereformer1 will bring anyone back to being a sunni or shia muslim here or revert any muslims to sunni islam who reverted to Qur'an only islam. I think he just likes to debate, weather or not most of us, so it seems, thinks he's wasting his time. It'd be less entertaining without him here & whatever anyone thinks of him he is our akhi.
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Peace, I doubt thereformer1 will bring anyone back to being a sunni or shia muslim here or revert any muslims to sunni islam who reverted to Qur'an only islam. I think he just likes to debate, weather or not most of us, so it seems, thinks he's wasting his time. It'd be less entertaining without him here & whatever anyone thinks of him he is our akhi.
groupI agree he is entertaining and to be honest he, and others, help my study enormously! I am 300% SURE I am on the right path now with Quran only, if I was ever unsure before. Thank you reformer, you have done the opposite of what you intended I think bravo
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I agree he is entertaining and to be honest he, and others, help my study enormously! I am 300% SURE I am on the right path now with Quran only, if I was ever unsure before. Thank you reformer, you have done the opposite of what you intended I think bravo
Imagine you are in a field full of cowpats. By stepping in a way to avoid one, you might step on another! Just find the clean path and follow that )
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I agree he is entertaining and to be honest he, and others, help my study enormously! I am 300% SURE I am on the right path now with Quran only, if I was ever unsure before. Thank you reformer, you have done the opposite of what you intended I think bravo
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no reference again? How RUDE )
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Its you that is giving falsehood.
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My friends are not aware that I'm not a Sunni any more and if it wasn't for my seriously biting my tongue, by now we'de have had several arguments. I was with a friend who converted a while back and she looked at me and asked if I'd changed my eyebrows, (now, even when I was Sunni I followed the opinion that it was re-shaping the brow that was wrong and not the removal of random hairs that weren't necessarily a part of the brow) and I replied Yes to her. So she looked at me with a funny look and said, 'You know that's wrong, now Allah's curse is upon you' and I was so baffled and in fact quite angry about this whole episode that I just didn't say anything I didn't even discuss the alternate opinion. I think I just mumbled something but with a look so stern on my face that she didn't retort. I didn't only find it extremely unnecessary seeing as we were in a public place, it was also condescending and plain rude. Several times during the day she'd made unnecessary comments of the like such as mentioning the length of my jumper and that my arms were showing? I was already quite aware of that.
How do you deal with such situations when you're still 'in the closet' so to speak, about your beliefs?
I've had several situations like this. I told a friend that I was thinking of taking off the Hijab and her response was that I will be Satan's bride on the day of judgement. giveup
Peace,
Respectfully.Always ask for proof from The Quran. The first thing is that they will run to the books written by unknown men signed as Bukhary an Muslim and then you can fire away with 7185, 316, 3923, 456, 5234, 6844, 7750.
This alone should get a person to think,especially is s/he speaks /understands Arabic.
God bless you.During my time in Leicester, i've got to know many sunnis and they all still know me and can't believe i reject their hadith books even after i give them the evidence.
Peace.
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Abu Hurairah's 3rd Law of Ahadeeth For every hadeeth, there is an equal and opposite ahadeeth.
Go find it and cite it to them!
voodoo
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Satan's bride on the day of judgement. giveup
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judgement day is Satan's wedding day?!
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Aha, Really, I prefer the answer of Sarah but yours definitely will make a war between him and her .
P.S the question is for you and Sarah as well, Do you know the difference between Hadith Sahih and Hadith wich is Isnaad Sahih ? The answer Yes or No
Yes do you?
questions for you,
- do you know the difference between matn sahih and mawd3? yes or no
- do you even know what they(above) mean? yes or no
- do you know of hadith ghareeb? yes or no
- do you know that hadith isn't the word of God? yes or no
- do you know the quran is the best hadith? yes or no
HNF if you ask for proof from Quran, they will say it's from hadith. so then challenge their beliefs ask
give me proof of hadith, what book, what number who authenticated it, is the chain sound? is it in line with quran or is it contradictory?they might just blurt out it's sahih muslim or sahih bukhari reply by saying 'so, dont you know some scholars have deemed a lot of their work as inaccurate such as Albani" he is a sunni hadith scholar and he didn't agree with all of the sahih classification. Muslim and Bukhari also differed in methodology and even opinion.
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Yes do you?
questions for you,
- do you know the difference between matn sahih and mawd3? yes or no
- do you even know what they(above) mean? yes or no
- do you know of hadith ghareeb? yes or no
- do you know that hadith isn't the word of God? yes or no
- do you know the quran is the best hadith? yes or no HNF if you ask for proof from Quran, they will say it's from hadith. so then challenge their beliefs ask
give me proof of hadith, what book, what number who authenticated it, is the chain sound? is it in line with quran or is it contradictory?
they might just blurt out it's sahih muslim or sahih bukhari reply by saying 'so, dont you know some scholars have deemed a lot of their work as inaccurate such as Albani" he is a sunni hadith scholar and he didn't agree with all of the sahih classification. Muslim and Bukhari also differed in methodology and even opinion.
No he dont know nope
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Yes do you?
Yes, If Yes for you what is the chriteria of differing between the hadith sahih and the one whose Isnaad Sahih .
questions for you,
- do you know the difference between matn sahih and mawd3? yes or no
That shows your ignorance of hadith, we say the Itissal or Thobout al Matn not matn sahih, this is wrong . Secondly we said the hadith al-Mawdou3, there is no matn mawd3 or whatever, in fact we say In9ita3 al matn and men 3adameh.
so the answer will be No as it is wrong from the beginning .
- do you even know what they(above) mean? yes or no
Yes for me , No for you (see above) I've explained your ignorance .
- do you know of hadith ghareeb? yes or no
Yes, do you know why it is called ghareeb ? and why it is ghareeb ? are we use this ghareeb ?
- do you know that hadith isn't the word of God? yes or no
This question is irrelvent because you know that sunnah people take Quran in the first place then Hadith after it.If we take your logic of this question we will not believe in any book other than Quran (books of science, books of Tafsir, books of historians, books of phylosophy ) Do you know that these books are not the word of God ? yes or no.
- do you know the quran is the best hadith? yes or no
No, Quran is the perfect hadith.
HNF if you ask for proof from Quran, they will say it's from hadith. so then challenge their beliefs ask
give me proof of hadith, what book, what number who authenticated it, is the chain sound? is it in line with quran or is it contradictory?Hahah, well he must debate with someone knows very well the hadith, not with a drunk as you like to go ask him or someone doesn't know very well .
You said that you're Quranic, I'm challenging you with Quran
they might just blurt out it's sahih muslim or sahih bukhari reply by saying 'so, dont you know some scholars have deemed a lot of their work as inaccurate such as Albani" he is a sunni hadith scholar and he didn't agree with all of the sahih classification. Muslim and Bukhari also differed in methodology and even opinion.
First of all try to know about Albani and his story about the hadith that he accepted. As I see you don't know and he never said that the ahadith are not inaccurate, this is a lie from you . They(people) asked him about some issues and the result was 40 hadiths according to the questions of people. Go figure .
Muslim was the student of Bukhari and they differed in methodology and opinions not because one of them was wrong as you trying to say but I doubt you will know what this word means " " .
Go learn after accusing people .