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Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

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    Thereformer1
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    Didnt you say that abu huraira was from bani Israel when you were denying he was a jew?

    What ? I've never said that Abu Huraira was from bani Isreal neither he was jew. am I like you to accuse people ?

    read please about this man http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Hurairah

    Clearly here you are saying they were enemies of islam so how did his stories get into claimed sayings of the prophet Muhammed and get passed off a facts?

    1. And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad &#1605 after the right path has been shown clearly to him, and follows other than the believers? way, We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell - what an evil destination!

    =/= is that what I said ?

    Clearly here you are saying they were enemies of islam so how did his stories get into claimed sayings of the prophet Muhammed and get passed off a facts?

    Horaira was not jew and his stories are not stories , they are ahadith from the prophet directly.

    Are you high ?

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      Thereformer1
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      Peace

      According to the quran those with knowledge know that what the Lord has sent guides to the path of the noble .

      Joe

      Yes, thanks (those who have knowledge) , are you one of them ?

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        Thereformer1
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        Peace

        Eleven times has the derivative of sin nun been used in the quran. I doubt you will find any referring to your sect or to Muhammad's method. In fact they have been used in reference to how God deals with the people and in admonishment of the institutions of others.

        Here are the derivatives for you to look up yourself 3/137; 4/26; 8/38; 15/13; 17/77; 18/55; 33/38, 62; 35/43; 40/85; 48/23

        Joe

        No, thanks, I'm not english .So I know what does the word mean in every verse .

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          Thereformer1
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          Peace
          I'm just wondering, sort of related to the idea of "naked" are we wrong for being born since we are born naked?

          is a child naked like a man naked ?

          In response to your elucidation of this hadeeth I would like to have clean genitals so I will and I do shower naked, completely naked.

          Yes, alone . read hadith please they are showering naked (men together showering naked ) . is this too hard to understand , how old are you ?

          My question is why is showering naked according to this hadeeth wrong,

          do you know about what kind of shower , I am talking about ? mature men naked and without even a cover from people. are you showering in street with your friends all of you naked ?

          because their enemies do it? If it's because they do not want to be like their enemies what if their enemies ate with their right hands or engaged in educating their people?

          am I talking about these things ?

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            Thereformer1
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            Brother ask God Alone to forgive you before a painful retribution!

            This imply to you as well and more than me .

            464 We do not send a messenger except to be obeyed with the permission of God. And had they come to you when they had wronged themselves and sought the forgiveness of God, and the messenger sought forgiveness for them, they would have then found God to be Pardoning, Merciful.

            This is about some Sahab in a battle called "Ohod" .

            465 No, by your Lord, they will not believe until they make you judge in what they dispute with each other, then they will not find in their souls any animosity for what you have decided, and they will comply completely.

            Yes, this is for you . You'll not believe until you make the prophet judge in what you dispute. how is that and the prophet is not here ? let me tell you his hadith .

            Tell me did God authenticate any hadiths? Sunni's and Shiia's are weak in faith they ask to be dominated by fascist leaders because they can't think for themselves.

            Sunna are not making up anything , we have study both of Quran and sunnah and we are better than any sect claims that follows Quran . let me remind you that the best interpreters and shouyoukh and scholars are sunnah . the majority of muslim community are sunnah with 1.5 billion muslims sunni .
            The other sects are a drop of water in the ocean . Go read Quran about what sect you must follow.

            2104 O you who believe, do not say Shepherd us, but say Be patient with us, and listen. For the rejecters is a painful retribution.

            rejecters of what ?

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              Mazhar
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              Reformer asks Nabi Are you sure that the believers are (quranists)

              All are known as believers who proclaim to be believer while in the judgment of Allah proven and factual believer is only he

              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/008.%20A3.gif
              and when His Aa'ya'at are recited to them, word by word, each Ayat/verse gave increase to them in belief.

              http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/Temp%2001%208.04.gif
              These defined people are proven and established believers .

              Chapter8

              Those who think themselves as "Quaranist" meaning to refer to thosw who follow Qur'aan and thus 100 percent follow the Messenger of Allah are covered by this verdict. Bukhari and company mongers are nowhere stated as Established and Proven Believers. They should incline themselves to become tied with Qur'aan if they wish to escape Hell.

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                Thereformer1
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                All are known as believers who proclaim to be believer while in the judgment of Allah proven and factual believer is only he
                http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/008.%20A3.gif
                and when His Aa'ya'at are recited to them, word by word, each Ayat/verse gave increase to them in belief.
                http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/Temp%2001%208.04.gif
                These defined people are proven and established believers .
                Chapter8
                Those who think themselves as "Quaranist" meaning to refer to thosw who follow Qur'aan and thus 100 percent follow the Messenger of Allah are covered by this verdict. Bukhari and company mongers are nowhere stated as Established and Proven Believers. They should incline themselves to become tied with Qur'aan if they wish to escape Hell.

                This verse will shock you

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                  Mazhar
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                  This verse will shock you

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                  That is why I keep reiterating that you are not an Arab. Thanks you have further confirmed what I quoted from Qur'aan, from Chapter 8 above. Every verse and Surat of Qur'aan increases our faith and we feel pleased and happy.

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                    Thereformer1
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                    That is why I keep reiterating that you are not an Arab. Thanks you have further confirmed what I quoted from Qur'aan, from Chapter 8 above. Every verse and Surat of Qur'aan increases our faith and we feel pleased and happy.

                    Hahah, well, if that is going to make you happy fine . Because God when he mentioned believers, he doesn't mean the people who read Quran .

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                      Mazhar
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                      Hahah, well, if that is going to make you happy fine . Because God when he mentioned believers, he doesn't mean the people who read Quran .

                      You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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                      Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

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                        Thereformer1
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                        You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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                        Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

                        I didn't say that , I said it is not talking about the one who reads Quran . And sorry I'll not speak about that, as it seems that you're one of those who want to learn .

                        Back to the topic.

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                          Ayisha
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                          What ? I've never said that Abu Huraira was from bani Isreal neither he was jew. am I like you to accuse people ?

                          No you are either a liar or someone else was using your account, your choice. You said this

                          No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600425.45

                          Horaira was not jew and his stories are not stories , they are ahadith from the prophet directly.

                          Are you high ?

                          No, are you?

                          You still havent answered those questions in that thread about where Jews are from so I assume you have now discovered they are from Israel, hence your claim you didnt say this. Must be hard having to realize that the greatest liar and story teller of hadith is a Jew huh? especially when you said jews were the biggest liars ;D

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                            Mazhar
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                            Quote from Mazhar on Today at 085432 PM
                            You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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                            Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

                            I didn't say that , I said it is not talking about the one who reads Quran . And sorry I'll not speak about that, as it seems that you're one of those who want to learn .

                            Back to the topic.

                            It is time that you take rest, you seem to be mentally knocked out.

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                              Thereformer1
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                              No you are either a liar or someone else was using your account, your choice. You said this
                              http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600425.45No, are you?

                              Is this about Mussa peace be upon him or about Abu Horayra ?

                              You still havent answered those questions in that thread about where Jews are from so I assume you have now discovered they are from Israel, hence your claim you didnt say this. Must be hard having to realize that the greatest liar and story teller of hadith is a Jew huh? especially when you said jews were the biggest liars ;D

                              I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass" and Bani Isreal are from "Jacob" . If denying this will make you happy, go ahead make a party .

                              I know what I wrote and I know myself, I don't need your opinion thanks .

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                                Thereformer1
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                                It is time that you take rest, you seem to be mentally knocked out.

                                Yes, you are right talking with people can't understand a verse correctely made me feel not well because they always claim that they follow Quran and no verse can be with its meanings .

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass"

                                  May you please write this word in Arabic, who/what is this, and what does it mean. Thanks.

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                                    shadowpuppet
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                                    You know what this kind of bickering has turned into in the world?

                                    A lot of people dying horrible, cruel.... fiery, bloody deaths --
                                    in the name of opium poppies, cocaine fields.... and oil wells.

                                    The people who own these industries are always at the top of the list.
                                    Always the bottom line.

                                    That is the truth, no matter what any book ever tells you.

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass"

                                      May you please write this word in Arabic, who/what is this, and what does it mean. Thanks.

                                      is the son of "" and he was hating his brother "" . but after ...it's a long story . you want the name in arabic I gave it to you, you want the meaning and person I gave it to you and You're welcome .

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                                        Ayisha
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                                        Is this about Mussa peace be upon him or about Abu Horayra ?

                                        Are you pretending to be stupid or what?

                                        You said We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today . God read Quran .

                                        Noon de Plume replied with this Who was Abu Hurairah exactly?

                                        You replied with a lot of blurb including this Abu Huraira is a great companion

                                        Noon de plume replied Was he not also Jewish, did you not write..."We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today..."?
                                        You clearly contradicted yourself again; like I stated think before you post.

                                        You replied No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                                        Then you spent ages trying to claim that jewish are not from Israel when the entire world knows they are, then you went on to deny how Romans got the name! Really, are you quite sure YOU are not high?

                                        I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass" and Bani Isreal are from "Jacob" . If denying this will make you happy, go ahead make a party .
                                        yes and I explained in detail about the difference between Israel the man and Israel the country.

                                        I know what I wrote and I know myself, I don't need your opinion thanks .

                                        you obvioulsy dont know what you wrote.Its there in black and white on pages 3 and 4 of that thread with your name on the posts.

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                                          shadowpuppet
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                                          Do you know what this kind of bickering has turned into in the world?

                                          A lot of people dying horrible, cruel.... fiery, bloody deaths --
                                          in the name of opium poppies, cocaine fields.... and oil wells.

                                          The people who own these industries are always at the top of the list.
                                          Always the bottom line.

                                          That is the truth, no matter what any book ever tells you.

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