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Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

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    Mazhar
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    Reformer asks Nabi Are you sure that the believers are (quranists)

    All are known as believers who proclaim to be believer while in the judgment of Allah proven and factual believer is only he

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    and when His Aa'ya'at are recited to them, word by word, each Ayat/verse gave increase to them in belief.

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    These defined people are proven and established believers .

    Chapter8

    Those who think themselves as "Quaranist" meaning to refer to thosw who follow Qur'aan and thus 100 percent follow the Messenger of Allah are covered by this verdict. Bukhari and company mongers are nowhere stated as Established and Proven Believers. They should incline themselves to become tied with Qur'aan if they wish to escape Hell.

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      All are known as believers who proclaim to be believer while in the judgment of Allah proven and factual believer is only he
      http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/008.%20Al%20Anfaal/008.%20A3.gif
      and when His Aa'ya'at are recited to them, word by word, each Ayat/verse gave increase to them in belief.
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      These defined people are proven and established believers .
      Chapter8
      Those who think themselves as "Quaranist" meaning to refer to thosw who follow Qur'aan and thus 100 percent follow the Messenger of Allah are covered by this verdict. Bukhari and company mongers are nowhere stated as Established and Proven Believers. They should incline themselves to become tied with Qur'aan if they wish to escape Hell.

      This verse will shock you

      ( . ) .

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        Mazhar
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        This verse will shock you

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        That is why I keep reiterating that you are not an Arab. Thanks you have further confirmed what I quoted from Qur'aan, from Chapter 8 above. Every verse and Surat of Qur'aan increases our faith and we feel pleased and happy.

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          That is why I keep reiterating that you are not an Arab. Thanks you have further confirmed what I quoted from Qur'aan, from Chapter 8 above. Every verse and Surat of Qur'aan increases our faith and we feel pleased and happy.

          Hahah, well, if that is going to make you happy fine . Because God when he mentioned believers, he doesn't mean the people who read Quran .

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            Mazhar
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            Hahah, well, if that is going to make you happy fine . Because God when he mentioned believers, he doesn't mean the people who read Quran .

            You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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            Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

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              Thereformer1
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              You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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              Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

              I didn't say that , I said it is not talking about the one who reads Quran . And sorry I'll not speak about that, as it seems that you're one of those who want to learn .

              Back to the topic.

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                What ? I've never said that Abu Huraira was from bani Isreal neither he was jew. am I like you to accuse people ?

                No you are either a liar or someone else was using your account, your choice. You said this

                No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600425.45

                Horaira was not jew and his stories are not stories , they are ahadith from the prophet directly.

                Are you high ?

                No, are you?

                You still havent answered those questions in that thread about where Jews are from so I assume you have now discovered they are from Israel, hence your claim you didnt say this. Must be hard having to realize that the greatest liar and story teller of hadith is a Jew huh? especially when you said jews were the biggest liars ;D

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                  Mazhar
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                  Quote from Mazhar on Today at 085432 PM
                  You further stamped you are not an Arab. You quoted this
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                  Do you think here means some conjecture of Bukhari or is it referring to of Qur'aan?

                  I didn't say that , I said it is not talking about the one who reads Quran . And sorry I'll not speak about that, as it seems that you're one of those who want to learn .

                  Back to the topic.

                  It is time that you take rest, you seem to be mentally knocked out.

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                    Thereformer1
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                    No you are either a liar or someone else was using your account, your choice. You said this
                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600425.45No, are you?

                    Is this about Mussa peace be upon him or about Abu Horayra ?

                    You still havent answered those questions in that thread about where Jews are from so I assume you have now discovered they are from Israel, hence your claim you didnt say this. Must be hard having to realize that the greatest liar and story teller of hadith is a Jew huh? especially when you said jews were the biggest liars ;D

                    I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass" and Bani Isreal are from "Jacob" . If denying this will make you happy, go ahead make a party .

                    I know what I wrote and I know myself, I don't need your opinion thanks .

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                      Thereformer1
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                      It is time that you take rest, you seem to be mentally knocked out.

                      Yes, you are right talking with people can't understand a verse correctely made me feel not well because they always claim that they follow Quran and no verse can be with its meanings .

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                        Mazhar
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                        I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass"

                        May you please write this word in Arabic, who/what is this, and what does it mean. Thanks.

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                          shadowpuppet
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                          You know what this kind of bickering has turned into in the world?

                          A lot of people dying horrible, cruel.... fiery, bloody deaths --
                          in the name of opium poppies, cocaine fields.... and oil wells.

                          The people who own these industries are always at the top of the list.
                          Always the bottom line.

                          That is the truth, no matter what any book ever tells you.

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                            Thereformer1
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                            I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass"

                            May you please write this word in Arabic, who/what is this, and what does it mean. Thanks.

                            is the son of "" and he was hating his brother "" . but after ...it's a long story . you want the name in arabic I gave it to you, you want the meaning and person I gave it to you and You're welcome .

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                              Ayisha
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                              Is this about Mussa peace be upon him or about Abu Horayra ?

                              Are you pretending to be stupid or what?

                              You said We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today . God read Quran .

                              Noon de Plume replied with this Who was Abu Hurairah exactly?

                              You replied with a lot of blurb including this Abu Huraira is a great companion

                              Noon de plume replied Was he not also Jewish, did you not write..."We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today..."?
                              You clearly contradicted yourself again; like I stated think before you post.

                              You replied No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                              Then you spent ages trying to claim that jewish are not from Israel when the entire world knows they are, then you went on to deny how Romans got the name! Really, are you quite sure YOU are not high?

                              I've asked before about the question that Jewish are from the "Al-Ass" and Bani Isreal are from "Jacob" . If denying this will make you happy, go ahead make a party .
                              yes and I explained in detail about the difference between Israel the man and Israel the country.

                              I know what I wrote and I know myself, I don't need your opinion thanks .

                              you obvioulsy dont know what you wrote.Its there in black and white on pages 3 and 4 of that thread with your name on the posts.

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                                Do you know what this kind of bickering has turned into in the world?

                                A lot of people dying horrible, cruel.... fiery, bloody deaths --
                                in the name of opium poppies, cocaine fields.... and oil wells.

                                The people who own these industries are always at the top of the list.
                                Always the bottom line.

                                That is the truth, no matter what any book ever tells you.

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  Are you pretending to be stupid or what?

                                  No, we were talking about Mussa and his nationality .

                                  Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                  I gave you the answer; not my fault you cannot comprehend a simply thing -- the Romans derives from the Latin ?Romanus? i.e. one of the founders of Rome later associated with the Roman empire. Read your hadith and history stop playing "Mickey Dunce" and pompous know it all Arab hypocrite like the ones mentioned in Qur'an.

                                  As I see, you're the one who can not comprehend a simply thing, I asked you to give me the meanings of the word, why they are called Romanus? as I see I gave you why they are called that way . do you ? NO .

                                  As I said before, you don't know what gender of Arabs that are mentioned , Do you ?

                                  Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                  You clearly contradicted not knowing basic history and writing it's an Arabic name which it's not, never was, it's a borrowed word like many other words in Qur'an which have Persian roots and others like the name Musa -- Egyptian.

                                  These roots end in the last result is Arabic . Are you saying that God borrowed words ?

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                                  Was he not also Jewish, did you not write..."We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today..."?

                                  No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                                  Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                  You clearly contradicted yourself again; like I stated think before you post.

                                  No, never. You must think before posting .

                                  Yes, you are right , I didn't pay attention , I was talking about Mussa, why would I say that Abu Horayra was from Bani Isreal and I know very well that he wasn't even from Bani Isreal ?

                                  no, sorry we were talking about Mussa and his nationality . So I didn't pay attention to the post that he quoted.

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    is the son of "" and he was hating his brother "" . but after ...it's a long story . you want the name in arabic I gave it to you,

                                    But you have said on some other thread that in Arabic proper names do not have "al" before it. And from where you came to know that this so called man is the son of "" alahissalam? From Jews!! who according to you are the greatest liars?

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                                      No, we were talking about Mussa and his nationality .

                                      Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                      I gave you the answer; not my fault you cannot comprehend a simply thing -- the Romans derives from the Latin ?Romanus? i.e. one of the founders of Rome later associated with the Roman empire. Read your hadith and history stop playing "Mickey Dunce" and pompous know it all Arab hypocrite like the ones mentioned in Qur'an.

                                      As I see, you're the one who can not comprehend a simply thing, I asked you to give me the meanings of the word, why they are called Romanus? as I see I gave you why they are called that way . do you ? NO .

                                      As I said before, you don't know what gender of Arabs that are mentioned , Do you ?

                                      Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                      You clearly contradicted not knowing basic history and writing it's an Arabic name which it's not, never was, it's a borrowed word like many other words in Qur'an which have Persian roots and others like the name Musa -- Egyptian.

                                      These roots end in the last result is Arabic . Are you saying that God borrowed words ?

                                      Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                      Was he not also Jewish, did you not write..."We all know that Jewish are the best Liars in the world before and today..."?

                                      No, He wasn't Jewish, never was . He was from Bani Isreal and they are not Jewish .

                                      Quote from Noon de Plume on April 25, 2010, 054020 PM
                                      You clearly contradicted yourself again; like I stated think before you post.

                                      No, never. You must think before posting .

                                      Yes, you are right , I didn't pay attention , I was talking about Mussa, why would I say that Abu Horayra was from Bani Isreal and I know very well that he wasn't even from Bani Isreal ?

                                      no, sorry we were talking about Mussa and his nationality . So I didn't pay attention to the post that he quoted.

                                      well its there on page 3 and 4 for anyone to see the real conversation and you replied to abu huraira being jewish. So if you are now saying you meant Moses, what have you got to say about your claim that they were all liars? you calling Moses a liar now?

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                                        Thereformer1
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                                        well its there on page 3 and 4 for anyone to see the real conversation and you replied to abu huraira being jewish. So if you are now saying you meant Moses, what have you got to say about your claim that they were all liars? you calling Moses a liar now?

                                        Well, until you differ between Jewish and Bani Isreal, I'll answer you .

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                                          AlFajr
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                                          Peace Thereformer1

                                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9600423.msg247796#msg247796

                                          You missed this question.

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