Quran vs quranists
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Well I have read through the 5 pages I missed here today, and a few other threads to catch up with the dancing dunce here and i have learnt 2 very important things
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Never read savage_carrot while drinking, Highly important!
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Thereformer1 had no wisdom at all and cannot answer any questions properly and when you think he might be answering he puffs up his feathers and goes directly into half answer, immediate question again. I bet hes a whiz at tennis!
You know it was even funnier reading it all in one go than it is being involved in it all. Beats even Catherine Tate show and Ali G for humour.
Thanks for the laugh transformer laugh
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Thanks for clarifying your question . And sorry to say that your classification about Wahi is a little bit wrong .
Ok but this isn't my classification. This is from your 3ulum al-quran.
But I'm going to answer your question, because the subject is not about Wahi .
Al-HIKMA some of it Matlu and some of it ghair matlu . So let me ask you this question what is the ghair matlu ?Are you saying that the Quran and hadith have been mixed up? Because according to your classical 3ulum al-quran, Al-quran is wahi matlu which the Prophet recited (yatlu) to the people but al-hikmah isn't.
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abdalquran, you can avail this by keeping it simultaneously opened while writing here.
write Arabic there and cut and paste here.
http//www.arabic-keyboard.org/
Oh thank you so much, Mazhar. That will come in very useful, sir.
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- Thereformer1 had no wisdom at all and cannot answer any questions properly and when you think he might be answering he puffs up his feathers and goes directly into half answer, immediate question again. I bet hes a whiz at tennis!
Look , carrot savage admitted that wisdom is not the scripture. Rajjaah agreed with what I said in the thread, Zulu12 found my thread excelent and he added some questions (for quranists), RasulHamsa saw your tricks to ruin the thread and he agreed too that what I said is the truth , Leyna found the topic interesting and she can't admit the truth and she changed it into talking about me , you (Ayisha) the topic scared you and shocked you and you don't want to admit it because you were before living in a lie and you don't want to live in it again (but you are still living in it) . The topic attract two adminitrators ah let alone the guests that will read the topic and the members too and they will see the truth, don't worry . Ah and about the questions I answered them all of them, but sure my questions nobody answered them .
You're not only the one that the thread scared here.
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Ok but this isn't my classification. This is from your 3ulum al-quran.
No, sorry. This is your classification . My 3ulum al-quran classified it by another ways and what you stated there is under a section in this ways.
Are you saying that the Quran and hadith have been mixed up?
I didn't say that , I said that HIKMA some of it Matlu and some of ghair Matlu, that because you don't know what the word means in arabic and what other interpretations of it . so this is not our subject . I think all your questions have been answered .
Because according to your classical 3ulum al-quran, Al-quran is wahi matlu which the Prophet recited (yatlu) to the people but al-hikmah isn't.
The way that Gabriel the angel peace be upon him taught the prophet how to pray and how to do things is considered matlu. And the way that prophet received words from God without the revelation of Quran considered ghair matlu .
P.S You got your answers , now back to the topic .
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Excuse me? It is not up to you do define "truth". http//img13.imageshack.us/img13/3531/stupidki.gif
. police >>>>> elektro
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and she changed it into talking about me
You resort to ad hominem attacks all the time -- trying to insult people for their supposed mental deficiency, lack of knowledge, lack of Arabic, avatar, gender attributes, age and so on and so forth.
Yet when I call you out on your boasting and lying, you whine about me going off topic?
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Look , carrot savage admitted that wisdom is not the scripture.
That wasnt the issue though was it? No one said that the Wisdom WAS the Book, but it was IN The Book. twisting it now wont help you as we have all seen your way.Rajjaah agreed with what I said in the thread, Zulu12 found my thread excelent and he added some questions (for quranists), RasulHamsa saw your tricks to ruin the thread and he agreed too that what I said is the truth ,
you quite sure about that? ;DLeyna found the topic interesting and she can't admit the truth and she changed it into talking about me , you (Ayisha) the topic scared you and shocked you and you don't want to admit it because you were before living in a lie and you don't want to live in it again (but you are still living in it) .
What IS your problem with me? YES I was Christian, I have already said countless times on various boards that I never believed Jesus was 'son of' or 'God' himslef. BUT yes I, as many others HERE, were misled in our beliefs and are making damn sure people like YOU dont do it again. OK? Furthermore, NOTHING you say makes me 'scared' little man, NOTHING, because I KNOW TRUTH and YOU will NEVER take that away from me even if you sit here avoiding questions and fluffing up your feathers of arrogance and deceit and claiming you 'won' till doomsday.
The topic attract two adminitrators ah let alone the guests that will read the topic and the members too and they will see the truth, don't worry .
Oh I am far from worried, I know people will read this thread and see for themselves that you have NO IDEA what the hell you are talking about!Ah and about the questions I answered them all of them, but sure my questions nobody answered them .
You have answered NOTHING. you answer WITH a question while giving it 'hahaha you dont know Arabic, you dont have knowledge' like you're some kind of great scholar in your 21 years of age! Grow up little man then gain some REAL knowledge from using your brain and mind instead of taking a load of claptrap as FACT. Then come and DEBATE in a proper manner with the grown ups.You're not only the one that the thread scared here.
It didnt scare me but it has certainly terrified YOU
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Yet when I call you out on your boasting and lying, you whine about me going off topic?
We call people liars when we have evidence about their lies and proofs about these lies, when you don't, you better swallow your words .
Now to pick up the threads the topic is about "The book and the wisdom" .
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Look , carrot savage admitted that wisdom is not the scripture. Rajjaah agreed with what I said in the thread, Zulu12 found my thread excelent and he added some questions (for quranists), RasulHamsa saw your tricks to ruin the thread and he agreed too that what I said is the truth , Leyna found the topic interesting and she can't admit the truth and she changed it into talking about me , you (Ayisha) the topic scared you and shocked you and you don't want to admit it because you were before living in a lie and you don't want to live in it again (but you are still living in it) . The topic attract two adminitrators ah let alone the guests that will read the topic and the members too and they will see the truth, don't worry . Ah and about the questions I answered them all of them, but sure my questions nobody answered them .
You're not only the one that the thread scared here.
One can't win against madness.
It's like talking to someone living in a dream state where reality is skewed. Hey, I'm talking about a shape that has three sides and pointy angles... Yes! That would be a square. Er, okay well what abo...loook out! there's a tornado! everyone move out of the way now! Run for your lives! What? That big fluffy cascade of rose petals? They'll just gently caress us and surround us with a bouquet of sweet fragrance. It wouldn't be so bad if this was deliberate, then we could just call it hypocrisy, idiocy, lies and pure stupidity. What would be worse is, if someone actually believed (to the detriment of all that's holy and sane) that anything that does not agree/compute with the established dream state is the opposite of what is being said thereby skewing reality and bringing about harmony and balance in this alternate dimension. That is pure madness and one can't play with madness, if Iron Maiden is anything to go by. Unless a crazed vorpal bunny from the vortex of terror descends and ravages this dreamstate from within ending the happy equilibrium...there's nothing we can do.
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We call people liars when we have evidence about their lies and proofs about these lies, when you don't, you better swallow your words .
Oh, I do. Want me to post it?
Btw., your ardent refusal to prove your self-congratulating statement that you answered "more than 10.000 questions" is a proof in itself. If it was true, you would proudly show us the "evidence".
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We call people liars when we have evidence about their lies and proofs about these lies, when you don't, you better swallow your words .
I have found a great proof ready to post now, want it?Now to pick up the threads the topic is about "The book and the wisdom" .
No its about 'Quran Vs Quranists' and you chose the title and now you want to change the topic?
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That wasnt the issue though was it? No one said that the Wisdom WAS the Book, but it was IN The Book. twisting it now wont help you as we have all seen your way.
No, wrong, you did before, you said that wisdom is the book . and if it is as you said being in Quran means that it is withing the quran , so why God said "The book and the wisdom" ?
you quite sure about that? ;D
Yes, 100%
What IS your problem with me? YES I was Christian, I have already said countless times on various boards that I never believed Jesus was 'son of' or 'God' himslef. BUT yes I, as many others HERE, were misled in our beliefs and are making damn sure people like YOU dont do it again. OK? Furthermore, NOTHING you say makes me 'scared' little man, NOTHING, because I KNOW TRUTH and YOU will NEVER take that away from me even if you sit here avoiding questions and fluffing up your feathers of arrogance and deceit and claiming you 'won' till doomsday.
being before in a false lies, doesn't make you away from another lies . There is kind of people that he learn in thr third time , some don't .
Oh I am far from worried, I know people will read this thread and see for themselves that you have NO IDEA what the hell you are talking about!
So keep it like that .
You have answered NOTHING. you answer WITH a question while giving it 'hahaha you dont know Arabic, you dont have knowledge'
This is a lie, in this thread I have been too serious , I've answered all the questions and I've respected everyone's opinions and I didn't tell anybody that he does not know Arabic, you can check the thread from the beginning .
like you're some kind of great scholar in your 21 years of age! Grow up little man then gain some REAL knowledge from using your brain and mind instead of taking a load of claptrap as FACT. Then come and DEBATE in a proper manner with the grown ups.
Well, some people not like others .
It didnt scare me but it has certainly terrified YOU
Just show me where ? police
P.S The thread is about "The book and the wisdom" . Do you have anything about that ?
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One can't win against madness.
It's like talking to someone living in a dream state where reality is skewed. Hey, I'm talking about a shape that has three sides and pointy angles... Yes! That would be a square. Er, okay well what abo...loook out! there's a tornado! everyone move out of the way now! Run for your lives! What? That big fluffy cascade of rose petals? They'll just gently caress us and surround us with a bouquet of sweet fragrance. It wouldn't be so bad if this was deliberate, then we could just call it hypocrisy, idiocy, lies and pure stupidity. What would be worse is, if someone actually believed (to the detriment of all that's holy and sane) that anything that does not agree/compute with the established dream state is the opposite of what is being said thereby skewing reality and bringing about harmony and balance in this alternate dimension. That is pure madness and one can't play with madness, if Iron Maiden is anything to go by. Unless a crazed vorpal bunny from the vortex of terror descends and ravages this dreamstate from within ending the happy equilibrium...there's nothing we can do.Well, I'm not wondering that you can't back up your claims using one verse in Quran , can you ?
About this post, sorry to say that it is not about the subject and you always said to members back to the thread, now back to the subject in the thread .
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No, wrong, you did before, you said that wisdom is the book . and if it is as you said being in Quran means that it is withing the quran , so why God said "The book and the wisdom" ?
There are ample posts in the thread that have explained this with evidence. You have not refuted jack. Instead, we have the same tired repetitive bleating from your side.
I wonder if Th1 will now dig out Jack's post and try to reply to it
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Oh, I do. Want me to post it?
Btw., your ardent refusal to prove your self-congratulating statement that you answered "more than 10.000 questions" is a proof in itself. If it was true, you would proudly show us the "evidence".
No, I want from you to keep believing in this thing .