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Quranists became Quranists because of their lack of understanding Quran.

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    Raaajah
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    Mazhar

    All irrelevant and evasive talk exactly following line of Bukhari type people. Message is clear in the verse that Bukhari type majority of people do not consider Quraan in time and space as The Warner, and avoid it for living according to self enjoying gossips.

    What do you mean to say by, Bukhari type people? that is beneath you, at least Bukhari did a great reserach work, according to tools and methods those were available those days, may be they are not up to the mark and donot fit the criterion of todays research methadology but you just can't under rate him that way or any scholar, who has done research inany field, you can agree or disagree, you can criticise his or her work, but to attach one's personality, depicts your own personality.
    People today say that Jabar bin Haiyan is considered to be have carried out gibberish work to be called as father of chemistry, but can you say that type of people like Jabr who are irrelevant.

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      Mazhar
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      And He was asked to tell people this, since Allah knew that there will be Bukharis and like of him who will be attributing all sorts of gossips with his name

      http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.019k.gif
      And this Qur'aan has been communicated to me so that I admonish/awaken you the living people with this and to admonish/awaken the one whom this Qur'aan reached". ;

      Allah told that he has to die. What will happen afterwards to guide people?

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      The Book, the Aa'ya'at of which have been compacted/placed in enclave , each has been separated/distinguished/demarcated/ isolated/made distinct;http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/041.%20Fusselat/41.03b.gif
      The Qur'aan in Arabic, so that people may learn/get knowledge.
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      The Qur'aan is a giver of glad tidings and a Warner/Awakener/Revivalist .

      Bukhari and company followers are always in time and space in large quantity/number

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      Then/for reason most of them, after having seen/heard the Qur'aan, have inclined themselves to turn away/refrain from it and hence they do not listen .

      Chapter41

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      After Qur'aan having reached in the hands of someone and he is yet roaming in streets and collecting gossip is dwarf of mind not scholarly. Let somebody negate the command of Allah in straight way, why to negate it by deceptive tactics.

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        xthug
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        Peace!

        Who was the first to submit?
        Did the system of worshipping God change?
        Do you believe that the Quran is complete?
        What do you think the percentage for zakat is?
        Does the hadiths/sunna prohibit anything outside of the Quran?
        Was it a man who put together the "accepted" hadiths?
        Why is shahada not mentioned in the Quran?
        If you believe in the Quran being the truth then are you not accepting Muhammad as a prophet of God?
        Do you think the people of the past were told to "bear witness" other then them having submit to God?
        Do you have solid proof that the compiling of the Sunni hadiths about 200 years after the Quran were authenticated by God? How about by a living prophet?
        What makes the Hadith compilation/authentication different than the bible compilation in Nicene?
        Is there a chance you are following conjecture?
        Do you feel strength in numbers?
        Do you have comfort in being a majority?

        By looking outside of the truth you're asking men to shepherd you into faith, thus setting up partners and rejecting the Truth. When you're looking only at the uncorrupted and complete Truth you're having patience and putting your trust entirely in God.
        God does not error, man is prone to error and evil.

        Simple question do you trust God alone, or do you need help in order to do that?

        1. These are the revelations of God, We recite them to you with the truth. So, in which narrative after God and His revelations do they believe?
          457 Woe to every sinful fabricator.
          458 He hears the revelations of God being recited to him, then he persists arrogantly, as if he never heard them. Give him news of a painful retribution.

        With following the Quran you are following %100 truth

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          AlFajr
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          and by the way when I said look for the abrogate, I didn't mean go to a quranic website, they don't know what does this word mean in arabic .

          The verse you posted has been addressed in the article which means you did not read it.

          http//www.wikiislam.com/wiki/List_of_Abrogations

          Here is a list of abrogations, at a glance I can tell that the so called "abrogations" are actually misunderstandings and verses being taken out of context.

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            Thereformer1
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            Peace,
            You know very well that only righteous people comply with God?s law/guidance i.e. Ramadan is performed by good people, Muslim, believers. Therefore, one can infer that some of these people were abstaining from sex during the fasting month because they were ordered to do so by the God . Otherwise they would not have done it. Majority of them violated though. It is that simple.
            Your reasoning allows for believers doing things at random, violates God?s law/commandment, and are unreasonable. Do you realize that this is what you are preaching here? Please reflect on Allah?s law and guidance.
            Allah is forgiving those who violated his command of no sex during Ramadan (old command which we have forgotten)

            Look, if you can't read a verse, don't blame people . they are God's words and I wrote the verse. Go read and stop your ignorance .

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              Thereformer1
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              The verse you posted has been addressed in the article which means you did not read it.
              http//www.wikiislam.com/wiki/List_of_Abrogations
              Here is a list of abrogations, at a glance I can tell that the so called "abrogations" are actually misunderstandings and verses being taken out of context.

              No, sorry, I read from scientists of Fiqh and Quran, I don't read some misclineous on the net .

              And by the way The website has a wrong idea about abrogations.

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                xthug
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                Peace!
                Therefrom in your pool of knowledge can a person go into heaven without shahada?

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                  shadowpuppet
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                  No, sorry, I read from scientists of Fiqh and Quran, I don't read some misclineous on the net .

                  And by the way The website has a wrong idea about abrogations.

                  Then why in the world are you here?

                  The Quran says that there is no compulsion in religion.... but
                  this is the most compulsive dialogue I've ever seen in my life.

                  You bash people for their beliefs, telling them they are ignorant and decieved,
                  and, if they use the Quran to refute your accusations, you simply twist the book
                  to mean what you want it to mean.

                  There isn't a certificate or degree in the world which can elevate this kind of nonsensical
                  backbiting to the status of healthy religion or enlightenment.

                  Why even bother, if you disagree?
                  You're not here because you care, man.

                  You came here to crack skulls.

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                    AlFajr
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                    No, sorry, I read from scientists of Fiqh and Quran, I don't read some misclineous on the net .

                    Its OK, Mr. "I only listen to the Pope".

                    Your missing out on a good article though.

                    And by the way The website has a wrong idea about abrogations.

                    Please explain.

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                      AlFajr
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                      Then why in the world are you here?

                      The Quran says that there is no compulsion in religion.... but
                      this is the most compulsive dialogue I've ever seen in my life.

                      You bash people for their beliefs, telling them they are ignorant and decieved,
                      and, if they use the Quran to refute your accusations, you simply twist the book
                      to mean what you want it to mean.

                      There isn't a certificate or degree in the world which can elevate this kind of nonsensical
                      backbiting to the status of healthy religion or enlightenment.

                      Why even bother, if you disagree?
                      You're not here because you care, man.

                      You came here to crack skulls.

                      Well said.

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