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    Yosemite
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    salam

    i should clarify that i'm questioning the ramadan i've been taught by a salafi
    like you end ramadan with a prayer and it cleanse you of sins or something
    i dont think it works magicly like that

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      herbman
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      salam

      i should clarify that i'm questioning the ramadan i've been taught by a salafi
      like you end ramadan with a prayer and it cleanse you of sins or something
      i dont think it works magicly like that

      Peace,

      you have been told this an dthat...what about verifiying by yourself

      1736
      And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and heart, all these you are responsible for.

      Peace

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        Alen
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        salam

        i should clarify that i'm questioning the ramadan i've been taught by a salafi
        like you end ramadan with a prayer and it cleanse you of sins or something
        i dont think it works magicly like that

        Peace be upon you,
        with all due Respect.

        11113 And hold the contact prayer at the two parts of the day, and the near part of the night. The good deeds take away the bad. This is a reminder to those who remember.

        May God bless you and gudie you The Straight Path.
        Keep up the prayer and read The Qur'an. yes
        Peace be upon you. handshake

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          Yosemite
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          Peace,

          you have been told this an dthat...what about verifiying by yourself

          1736
          And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and heart, all these you are responsible for.

          Peace

          well, i did read the different threads about ramadan and the different opinion on what it is
          but that did not help
          as for doing good deeds, is praying the way the "traditionalist" pray consedered a good deed
          in doubt i guess ill just do one month, but this month is the hardest of them all

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            AlFajr
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            Peace all,

            Fasting is better than not fasting. Its a simple as that. If you don't know the correct month, why not just follow the traditional way?

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              justamuslim
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              is fasting considered a good deed?

              2183 (Y. Ali) O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,- (ward off evil, become righteous, conscious of God as others have translated)...

              if you haven't learned then what good has fasting done? have i done a good deed by going through the motions? how many people do you know who fast, pray, and have even memorized the entire quran yet they lie, hurt, destroy, kill, are inconsiderate, arrogant, boastful, selfish, etc.

              for me salat/fasting are a means of attaining piety, remembrance of God, keeping away from evil, being patient, etc. they are a means of doing good.

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                Alen
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                is fasting considered a good deed?

                2183 (Y. Ali) O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,- (ward off evil, become righteous, conscious of God as others have translated)...

                if you haven't learned then what good has fasting done? have i done a good deed by going through the motions? how many people do you know who fast, pray, and have even memorized the entire quran yet they lie, hurt, destroy, kill, are inconsiderate, arrogant, boastful, selfish, etc.

                for me salat/fasting are a means of attaining piety, remembrance of God, keeping away from evil, being patient, etc. they are a means of doing good.

                Peace be upon you,
                with all due Respect.

                I agree.
                I can reach piety and calmness and total peace just by reading The Qur'an.
                Of course I read it for a few hours in order to reach total peace and love.

                God bless you.
                Peace be upon you.

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                  AlFajr
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                  Fasting for Yosemite is better than not fasting for Yosemite. Fasting for Hitler probably is a waste of time.

                  Intention is important.

                  1076 They only want to be seen,

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                    justamuslim
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                    Fasting has basically been turned into going without food from morning till evening, gathering for iftar, stuffing faces at the end of the day, acting holier than thou, obsessing over details that surely God in the Koran hasn't.

                    Some years ago I was opening the fast and I hadn't finished my plate. one of our guests looked at the clock and said it was time. They hadn't finished either and dumped entire glasses of milk in the sink and food in the garbage. Is this what fasting is all about? Would it have mattered a great deal if they just finished their plates in few exta minutes? In the times of the prophet, did people have calenders listing the time of fajr and look at the clock to strike the exact time and stop eating?

                    Over the years, I have toughened up with judgmental reactions from people who ask how fasting is coming along and I tell them that I am not not fasting and by the way, I am not on my periods either. God makes it clear in the Koran what to do if you find fasting hard. God makes it clear that He wishes ease and not hardship. Why do people make "Islam" what it is not....listening to people I sure wouldn't want to believe in a God who is so harsh, trivial, not very understanding, and such.

                    This month of ramadan invariably brings sadness, often feeling lonely, and finding solace in God's words.

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                      UmAlawi
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                      Happy Ramadan to all!
                      Peace and blessings
                      x x x

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                        ayyub
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                        is fasting considered a good deed?

                        2183 (Y. Ali) O ye who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, that ye may (learn) self-restraint,- (ward off evil, become righteous, conscious of God as others have translated)...

                        if you haven't learned then what good has fasting done? have i done a good deed by going through the motions? how many people do you know who fast, pray, and have even memorized the entire quran yet they lie, hurt, destroy, kill, are inconsiderate, arrogant, boastful, selfish, etc.

                        for me salat/fasting are a means of attaining piety, remembrance of God, keeping away from evil, being patient, etc. they are a means of doing good.

                        Well put brother bravo

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                          tauhid101
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                          Peace ayyub,

                          Well put brother bravo

                          I am not on my periods either.

                          ;D

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                            Maisha
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                            Also during this month, money for charity is collected via various community centres and donated at their discretion. It is like an obligation to contribute in this manner. Does not seem to matter if you have been offering charity in various forms throughout the year to people who you are in contact with, who may even be (gasp, horror) non-Muslims.

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                              Alen
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                              Peace be upon you,
                              with all due Respect.

                              I agree, especially with Aalmakto and justamuslim, I've seen the same when I was in leicester, so much food and beverages is wasted, I just wanna cry and scream and punch but that is why I keep saying to read The Qur'an, especially at night and read it long, read for a few hours. Trust me, it reminds you who you are and what your goals are. My goals are clear, Glory be to God, Thank God.

                              Keep up the prayers,
                              read The Qur'an,
                              remain Patient.

                              Glory be to God.
                              Peace be upon you.

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