Praise Be to Muhammad rasool Allah
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Rasool is NOT the Name. It reflects job and assignment not name. Pl let me quote Allah the Sustainer Lord of the Worlds and Absolutely Knowledgable
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Muhammad , is the Messenger of Allah,First is the subject and then is the predicate/news about him. And now these two the subject and the predicate can never ever be seperated. The minimum requirement to mention his name with respect is to add the predicate always while talking or writing about him.
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He did not oblige anybody with any saying other than Qur'aan.
600,000 hadith wasnt it? all 'extra' to Quran and believed by millions of Muslims worldwide because of the verse you quoted saying the word of Muhammed is the word of Allah.In time and space may be there were quotations in the number you have quoted with addition of million with it. But that does not mean that we should alter the words of Allah to combat such activity. We know about this phenomenon, it is not new or exclusively adopted during the last 1400 years. This is an old game.
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And this is the reason that We have declared for each and every Chosen and Elevated Servant of Allah as his enemy the evil ones amongst human beings and Jinn.What is the modus operandi?
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Some of them inspire/communicate with others fascinating sayings, in deceitful manner.http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.112b.gif
And had it been the will of your Sustainer Lord they could not have done it for the first time/innovated.http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.112c.gif
Therefore, for that reason, You the Messenger may leave them and what they imaginatively innovate/fabricate fascinating sayings.Surat 612
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Rasool is NOT the Name. It reflects job and assignment not name. Pl let me quote Allah the Sustainer Lord of the Worlds and Absolutely Knowledgable
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Muhammad , is the Messenger of Allah,First is the subject and then is the predicate/news about him. And now these two the subject and the predicate can never ever be seperated. The minimum requirement to mention his name with respect is to add the predicate always while talking or writing about him.
So you too are under the impression that Muhammed had no name until he was over 40? Muhammed was the name given to him by his father, not by Allah.
rasool is a title, and the 99 'names' of Allah are also titles, not names.
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In time and space may be there were quotations in the number you have quoted with addition of million with it. But that does not mean that we should alter the words of Allah to combat such activity. We know about this phenomenon, it is not new or exclusively adopted during the last 1400 years. This is an old game.
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And this is the reason that We have declared for each and every Chosen and Elevated Servant of Allah as his enemy the evil ones amongst human beings and Jinn.What is the modus operandi?
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Some of them inspire/communicate with others fascinating sayings, in deceitful manner.http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.112b.gif
And had it been the will of your Sustainer Lord they could not have done it for the first time/innovated.http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/006.%20Al%20Anaam/temp%2002%206.112c.gif
Therefore, for that reason, You the Messenger may leave them and what they imaginatively innovate/fabricate fascinating sayings.Surat 612
But they are NOT altering the words of Allah, they are doing just as you did and are convinced that Quran holds the sayings of muhammed telling them that his word is Allahs word, just as you have. This leads them naturally to think they should follow every word Muhammed said even that which is not in Quran. A few pages ago you were trying to tell me that Quran has Allahs words AND Muhammeds word in it while I was saying Quran is all the words of Allah and no one else, recently you are saying Muhammed recited syllable by syllable what Allah told him, which is what i have been saying for pages now.
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So you too are under the impression that Muhammed had no name until he was over 40? Muhammed was the name given to him by his father, not by Allah.
rasool is a title, and the 99 'names' of Allah are also titles, not names.
He was given a unique name on his birth, unprecedented in Arabia and whole of the world. And do you think this name was given to him about 600 years before his birth and even before the birth of his grand grand father imaginatively by Easa alahissalam?
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"and I am the Announcer of glad news of only one Messenger who will corporeally come after me, his name is http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.%20Tabweeb/00005.%20Hamad%20Ha%20Meem%20Dal/17.gif"
by substituting plural word "Messengers" to a singular "only One Messenger" after him. Respects and salutation is upon Easa alai'his'slaam who was the first Announcer/ of end of arrival of the Elevated and Chosen Persons and Messengers on the physical and corporeal appearance of one whose name he knew at that point in time as "Ahmad-The Praiser" and who on birth/sent for physically joining the humanity is named and introduced as Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam-the one who is praised all the time without interruption; and along with him was sent the "An-Noor-Visible Light-Giver and guarantor of continuity of life The Grand Qur'aan" in the Sky of the Earth-7157]
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http//A few pages ago you were trying to tell me that Quran has Allahs words AND Muhammeds word in it while I was saying Quran is all the words of Allah and no one else, recently you are saying Muhammed recited syllable by syllable what Allah told him, which is what i have been saying for pages now.
There seems a fault-line somewhere. My whole site and my posts on this forum is highlighting this point, that the Arabic word Yatloo means to recite syllable by syllable, word by word. Nowhere I suggested to you that Qur'aan contains the personal words of the Messenger. Till now you have not tried to understand what the word "Qaul" means. Qur'aan is the Qaul of the Messenger , this is not me who is saying this, Allah with great emphasis has said this and I gave you the Arabic text of Qur'aan. And this emphasies that whenever you hear somebody attributing a "Qaul" to the Messenger, cross check it from Qur'aan whether it is written therein or not because his Qaul is this Qur'aan. It does not mean that it becomes his Kalam. The Qaul of the Messenger contains in it the hadith/kalam of Allah which is Qur'aan.
Remember people do not attribute material to the Messenger for love of him but to find escape from the Book and to meet their own desires and exigencies. Love of him is a shield and deception. The other group brings him down to the level of postman. AstaghrAllah.
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He was given a unique name on his birth, unprecedented in Arabia and whole of the world. And do you think this name was given to him about 600 years before his birth and even before the birth of his grand grand father imaginatively by Easa alahissalam?
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by substituting plural word "Messengers" to a singular "only One Messenger" after him. Respects and salutation is upon Easa alai'his'slaam who was the first Announcer/ of end of arrival of the Elevated and Chosen Persons and Messengers on the physical and corporeal appearance of one whose name he knew at that point in time as "Ahmad-The Praiser" and who on birth/sent for physically joining the humanity is named and introduced as Muhammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam-the one who is praised all the time without interruption; and along with him was sent the "An-Noor-Visible Light-Giver and guarantor of continuity of life The Grand Qur'aan" in the Sky of the Earth-7157]
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So he was known to be this 'Ahmed' from birth? There is a difference between Ahmed the Praiser and Muhammed the praised one but I agree Jesus spoke of an 'Ahmed' a 'praiser' a comforter but Jesus did not name 'this child' Muhammed and nor did God as raj is saying, unless God spoke to Muhammeds parents as He did to Mary the mother of Jesus telling her what to name him?
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So he was known to be this 'Ahmed' from birth? There is a difference between Ahmed the Praiser and Muhammed the praised one but I agree Jesus spoke of an 'Ahmed' a 'praiser' a comforter but Jesus did not name 'this child' Muhammed and nor did God as raj is saying, unless God spoke to Muhammeds parents as He did to Mary the mother of Jesus telling her what to name him?
Arabic is a very specific and precise language. "The name of him is Ahmad"-the Messenger who had to come after him. So it is understood/agreeable that this Name was told, for communicating it to Bani Israel, by Allah.
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Arabic is a very specific and precise language. "The name of him is Ahmad"-the Messenger who had to come after him. So it is understood/agreeable that this Name was told, for communicating it to Bani Israel, by Allah.
That doesnt answer either of my questions.
This name in Arabic was told in Quran but Jesus didnt speak Arabic, he spoke Hebrew/Aramaic, so the word used in Hebrew/Aramaic would not be 'Ahmed' it would be the Hebrew/Aramaic for 'praiser' which has been translated as 'comforter' wrongly in English. Similarly, where Quran says in Arabic that God said such and such to Moses, or Moses asked God such and such, it would not have been said in Arabic, it would have been said in Hebrew as that was the language of Moses, but God is telling you/us about this in Arabic as Muhammed spoke Arabic, no good telling him the exact words in Hebrew really is it?
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It is said "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus
Follow me as we trace the Biblical history of this Greek word "Paraclete". Startling as it may seem, at one time the word read "Periklytos" and "Paraklytos", which is the name for "Muhammad" in Greek. Surprising? It should not be because both words mean "Praised" or "Celebrate," the meaning and character of the man "Muhammad." (1 Jesus in The Qur'an, One World Publications, (c) Geoffrey Parrinder 1965, 1995, ISBN 1-85168-094-2. Knowing this, there is a need for us to study the life of Prophet Muhammad in depth to see if it all stands up. Surprisingly it does.
and thn read this
follow the messenger, the gentile prophet , whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones 1757
Notice the words of Allah and and Praise the One whom allah has called the praise worthy, Mercy for all the worlds.
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It is said "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus
and thn read this
follow the messenger, the gentile prophet , whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones 1757
Notice the words of Allah and and Praise the One whom allah has called the praise worthy, Mercy for all the worlds.
Raj again you have misunderstood, and please! answering-christianity? The online slanging match between Islam and christianity, spare me!
I am not, repeat NOT disputing that Jesus did tell of him and I am NOT disputing that he was also told about in Torah see Deut 1818, what i AM disputing is that the name Mohammed was given to him on the dy he was BORN by any other that his parents. The Praised One or The Praiser in Arabic is Muhammed/Ahmed and I am not disputing that either.
forget it raj, we are on different planes
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It is said "Paraklytos" is actually "Muhammad" in Aramaic - the mother tongue' of Prophet Jesus
and thn read this
follow the messenger, the gentile prophet , whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones 1757
Notice the words of Allah and and Praise the One whom allah has called the praise worthy, Mercy for all the worlds.
raj did you happen to check the link it says this was taken from? you should
The following was taken from http//www.aramaic.org/PARAVLETE.html
Paraklytos is actually Greek
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Paraklytos is actually Greek
I think we all know that?
What you fail to understand is that, what was the Language of Issa A.S?
Greek or Aramaic?What I am trying to say is, What you have from Greek Bibles is nothing but a mere translation to what Jesus originally spoke.
Muhammad in Arabic means "praised one" or "the honored", and "Periklytos" in Greek also means "the honored" one.
now coming back to the word of Allah, which I think cannot be a lie
follow the messenger, the gentile prophet , whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones 1757
and Which you completely ignored,
the real word has to be "Periklytos", in John 1416
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I am not, repeat NOT disputing that Jesus did tell of him and I am NOT disputing that he was also told about in Torah see Deut 1818, what i AM disputing is that the name Mohammed was given to him on the dy he was BORN by any other that his parents. The Praised One or The Praiser in Arabic is Muhammed/Ahmed and I am not disputing that either.
You are disputing! How can Jesus tell of Him many Hundred years before? if not of through Allah. Muhammad is the name of the Messanger as MAzhar has shown you, given by Allah to the pesron who carried his Message.
Ayisha
rasool is a title, and the 99 'names' of Allah are also titles, not names.
Where did you get this information from Quran? please tell me?
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Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels ? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.
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http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat33_files/33_40.gifThese are evidences enough for those who believe, for Muhammad being the name given by Allah.
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Paraklytos is actually Greek
I think we all know that?
What you fail to understand is that, what was the Language of Issa A.S?
Greek or Aramaic?What I am trying to say is, What you have from Greek Bibles is nothing but a mere translation to what Jesus originally spoke.
Who mentioned Greek Bibles? ??? you are the one claiming this is Aramaic when it is Greek, Jesus didnt speak Greek.Muhammad in Arabic means "praised one" or "the honored", and "Periklytos" in Greek also means "the honored" one.
yes I know, thats what I said and Quran says 'Ahmed' and in English its 'praiser', thats what I have said and now you are trying to convince me? And Muhammed IS Arabic, 'not Muhammed in Arabic means praised one' its Muhammed in English means praised one, in Arabic it means Muhammed!now coming back to the word of Allah, which I think cannot be a lie
follow the messenger, the gentile prophet , whom they find written in their Torah and Gospel. He exhorts them to be righteous, enjoins them from evil, allows for them all good food, and prohibits that which is bad, and unloads the burdens and the shackles imposed upon them. Those who believe in him, respect him, support him, and follow the light that came with him are the successful ones 1757
and Which you completely ignored,
Who said it was a lie? i havent ignored anything nor have I said its a lie.
the real word has to be "Periklytos", in John 1416
If one has to disprove Allah's word of 1757 he or she has to disprove it from aramaic and not Greek.what is 'confused one' in Arabic i wonder?
the real word would not be Greek as Jesus (and John) both spoke ARAMAIC and not GREEK, Paraklytos is Greek and you have said yourself that the Greek translated Bible "is nothing but a mere translation to what Jesus originally spoke" so why do you assume now he suddenly slipped in a Greek word? No one is trying to disprove Allah's word, where on Gods green earth do you get that from? ??? What you need to find is the Aramaic for 'praiser' or 'praised one' if you are sticking with that.
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You are disputing! How can Jesus tell of Him many Hundred years before? if not of through Allah. Muhammad is the name of the Messanger as MAzhar has shown you, given by Allah to the pesron who carried his Message.
Jesus 'told of him' by the name of Ahmed, I am not disputing! Allah told of him i am not disputing! his name is Ahmed. Muhammed was NAMED by his parents MUHAMMED. Now unless you think God sent an angel to his mother like He did to Mary, then it was NOT known at his birth that this Muhammed was that Ahmed!Ayisha
Where did you get this information from Quran? please tell me?what information raj? that rasool is a title? or that the 'names' of Allah are also titles? The Merciful, is that a name or a title? the Judge, is that a name or a title?
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Muhammad is but a messenger, messengers have passed away before him. Will it be that, when he dieth or is slain, ye will turn back on your heels ? He who turneth back on his heels doth no hurt to Allah, and Allah will reward the thankful.
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http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat33_files/33_40.gifThese are evidences enough for those who believe, for Muhammad being the name given by Allah.
Rofl, are you trying to prove his name was Muhammed? yes we already know that raj None of these verses prove that it wasnt his parents who gave him the name at birth though, they 'prove' that is his name, well done the first also proves he was but a messenger
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Please verify this for me
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ibrM_Hyeo
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Now search this word Raj the closest you will get is 'my beloved' and that word is in Solomons 'Song of Songs' or 'Songs of Solomon' in the bible you dont believe in because its 'been changed' laugh