Is Prophet Muhammad?s duty to deliver Quran only?: No
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Guest
Peace siki,
I equated Allah help = instant wisdom from Allah. What is you view on this?
Rajah
He has mentioned that he gave it to his Last messenger as we read in above aayt, and to whom he choses, but what about others how can they attain that Wisdom?
I see a slight problem in this statement, that is why I asked you the above question.
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Peace siki,
I equated Allah help = instant wisdom from Allah. What is you view on this?
I should disagree, I think it was some kind of direct intervention of controllers at this stage, who probably flashed some kind of reminder to wake him out of seductive daze.
peace
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I should disagree, I think it was some kind of direct intervention of controllers at this stage, who probably flashed some kind of reminder to wake him out of seductive daze.
peace
I agree with this as well.. Most of the time God will not reveal all the mechanism involve between His will of an event and its occurrence. For example God wanted Musa to come to the sacred place to that He could speak to him... He could have just flashed him to come there... But instead, it was a fire on the mountain who was used to attract Musa to this place... This was part of the divine mechanism which will fit the reality.
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Wayfinder
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The word ?bihee? (with it) that appear at the end of the verse, is in the
singular mode, in other words it describes one thing and not two. For that
reason the words ?Al-Hekmah? and ?Al-Ketab? must denote one thing and not
two, unless of course God is making grammatical mistakes!The Bihee is not translated by most translators... the translation of bihee is
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Let us see what way finder has to say? but definitely not same as Al-Kitab, the view of Way finder and certainly two separate things as point of view of GUEST.
Wayfinder didn't actually say it was same as Al-Kitab though, but if you understood it that way and don't have any opinion you want to share that's ok peace
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@Rajaaa
Did you check the grammar of the verse I posted? If Both Al-Kitaab and Al-Hikmah are 2 different separate things, then why they are regarded as singular with a pronoun biHEE{with IT} rather than biHIMAA{with THEM}? I think you should be answering this first then we can look at other implications... I hope you will agree to this. Both AlKitaab and AlHikmah are in the same Book.
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Way Finder and Ayisha
So You are one of those who pick up a verse then stick to it, postmortem it grammatically and linguistically, without referring to other verses of Quran.
If you bother to read the verse in which Allah mentions the Hikmah while speaking about Talaaq and a ruling in the religion, without doubt it is made clear that Al-Kitab is the Book and Al-Hikmah is understanding of that book the two are separate things as using of "", makes is further clear so it means that these two the Qur'aan and the Hikmah, may be equal in their status and importance but they are two separate entities.
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=2296
we also understand from the following verse and other verses that these two are separate things.
"But We had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom." Qur'an, 554.
Wisdom and Al-Kitab are two separate things.
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Way Finder and Ayisha
So You are one of those who pick up a verse then stick to it, postmortem it grammatically and linguistically, without referring to other verses of Quran.
If you bother to read the verse in which Allah mentions the Hikmah while speaking about Talaaq and a ruling in the religion, without doubt it is made clear that Al-Kitab is the Book and Al-Hikmah is understanding of that book the two are separate things as using of "", makes is further clear so it means that these two the Qur'aan and the Hikmah, may be equal in their status and importance but they are two separate entities.
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
http//corpus.quran.com/wordimage?id=2296
we also understand from the following verse and other verses that these two are separate things.
"But We had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom." Qur'an, 554.
Wisdom and Al-Kitab are two separate things.
What is the BUT for?
Disprove the grammar first.. then we can talk further.
None of these 2 are separate.. just an emphasis on one particular aspect of revelation which has to do with legislation/laws hence hikmah/haakim/hukm/hakeem .. All the aspect of the BOOK/revelation which has direct link with laws and legal matters... They are not separate... Unless GOD makes grammatical mistakes of course.
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If it is established unanimously that Al Kitab refers to Qur'an (which it is) then it proves that "wisdom" refers to something else. It is perfectly plausible that wisdom is an "attribute" of the Qur'an in specific verses (such as Kitab Al Hikma), but it cannot be so when coupled with "wa" (e.g. kitab wal hikma) which signifies differentiation.
Prophet Muhammad Peace is upon him only spoke exact words of the Quran? How would he explain it then? he would probably have to use other words which weren't exact words of the Quran, therefore for sure Al-Kitab and Al-Hikmah are two separate things.
You can only have two choice
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The Prophet only read the verbatim text of the Qur'an as it was revealed without explaining it,
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The Prophet read the verbatim text of the Qur'an and also explained it.
and hope fully if you read the Quran as a whole you will opt for (2), and if not you may have solid reason for it, other than playing that Grammar, Grammar and NOUN , Pronoun games.
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If it is established unanimously that Al Kitab refers to Qur'an (which it is) then it proves that "wisdom" refers to something else. It is perfectly plausible that wisdom is an "attribute" of the Qur'an in specific verses (such as Kitab Al Hikma), but it cannot be so when coupled with "wa" (e.g. kitab wal hikma) which signifies differentiation.
Posted by Salman http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-11309.html
Prophet Muhammad Peace is upon him only spoke exact words of the Quran? How would he explain it then? he would probably have to use other words which weren't exact words of the Quran, therefore for sure Al-Kitab and Al-Hikmah are two separate things.
You can only have two choice
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The Prophet only read the verbatim text of the Qur'an as it was revealed without explaining it,
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The Prophet read the verbatim text of the Qur'an and also explained it.
and hope fully if you read the Quran as a whole you will opt for (2), and if not you may have solid reason for it, other than playing that Grammar, Grammar and NOUN , Pronoun games.
I opt for 1
75.19 Nay more, it is for Us to explain it (and make it clear)
6.105 Thus do we explain the signs by various (symbols) that they may say, "Thou hast taught (us) diligently," and that We may make the matter clear to those who know.
7.174 Thus do We explain the signs in detail; and perchance they may turn (unto Us). -
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Ayisha
Posted by Salman http//www.sunniforum.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-11309.html
and Salman is 100% correct.
Ayisha
I opt for 1
So you think Allah explained it by himself? or he gave Prophet the Wisdom to explain it?
again you have two choices Ayisha.