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You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...

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    Bahman
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    i dont get it
    Dear sister just observation and break time. i see the 97th post my name BHMN GV and your time ending with 19 seconds ! How ever. I am showing a lottery machine ( Gambling) that makes their friend and family millionaire and one awhile let some body won it for advertisement What Aid Abdllah does here is taking fixed and rigid numbers ans use lottery ticket machine which shows probabilities and then manipulate the book with his own hallucination to tarnish God's Miracle. let me give a simple example . your id is 1988news write that in Arabic would be 1988 =50 =10 =6 =7

    Now write your name in digits ( abjad) would be 1988501067.
    At this example I find that your name is multiple of 7. This locks your name to code 7
    Say for example we add n7 or deduct n7 from this figure still is multiple of 7 but is not more your name say add 7 then we will have
    1988501074 multiple of 7 too but
    1988 nezd
    Deduct 7
    1988501060 is multiple of 7 too but
    1988
    Any change would not be same as original and this way your name is protected by interlocking into code 7.

    1,988,501,067 can have 13x12x11x10x9x8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1=?????
    combinations that would have so many cases multiple of 7 but none of those fits your name when relocating numbers to fins another multiple.

    What Ayman and Aid are doing here is these random numbers that do not fit Quran and they are creating another none sense digital pattern or maximum changing a letter at either end as I have explained it in its post.
    Peace.

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      stan-b_
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      If this causes an uproar, go to a few youtube vids where King James Onlyism adherents scream about all the modern translation bibles.

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        liquiddharma
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        That's pretty funny, why are they so attached to the bible adaptation of Shakespeare's generation?

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          unknownuser
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          I don't think that this is a muslim site at all.

          It may be some hateful Christians or Atheists, just to make it their way. If you look at it deeply.. it seems that they have just copy and pasted from an English translator and then removed the "bad" verses which they think are to violent. They probably haven't studied the true meaning of the Quran at all.

          Just ignore the site... these guys are idiots.

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            muslim1984
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            Look deep enough into the quran, i am sure you will find The Creator saying that I will preseve the quran, however not just yet, but after 1300 years or so, and after that I will not let it get coruppted, however till then let them enjoy the corrupted version, then I will inspire them that the hadith and sunna are satanic inspirations expect one of those satanic inspirations will point out that two verses were added to the quran, as satan once in a while tells the truth to help the believers, so that particular hadith you can take if it helps you, but don't make a habbit of it.

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              liquiddharma
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              Look deep enough into the quran, i am sure you will find The Creator saying that I will preseve the quran, however not just yet, but after 1300 years or so, and after that I will not let it get coruppted, however till then let them enjoy the corrupted version, then I will inspire them that the hadith and sunna are satanic inspirations expect one of those satanic inspirations will point out that two verses were added to the quran, as satan once in a while tells the truth to help the believers, so that particular hadith you can take if it helps you, but don't make a habbit of it.

              http//www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/106545d1239478648-funny-strange-random-pics-sarcasm_detector.jpg

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                http//www.fohguild.org/forums/attachments/screenshots/106545d1239478648-funny-strange-random-pics-sarcasm_detector.jpg

                Sir,
                the detctor battery charger is no working. (

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                  nsws1988
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                  laugh

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                    muslim1984
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                    peace my dear bros and sisters, group
                    no offense meant for any particular individual, but i am feeling sorry for those living the last 1300 years thinking The Creator was truthful while they were being lied to and their book was corrupted, turn on the detector again its your lucky day. peace

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                      nsws1988
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                      peace my dear bros and sisters, group
                      no offense meant for any particular individual, but i am feeling sorry for those living the last 1300 years thinking The Creator was truthful while they were being lied to and their book was corrupted, turn on the detector again its your lucky day. peace

                      Who lives for 1300 years? ???

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                        muslim1984
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                        superman

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                          unknownuser
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                          peace my dear bros and sisters, group
                          no offense meant for any particular individual, but i am feeling sorry for those living the last 1300 years thinking The Creator was truthful while they were being lied to and their book was corrupted, turn on the detector again its your lucky day. peace

                          Somehow I find it difficult to believe that the creator can maintain obscenely perfect precision over 3x1080 cubic metres of space from the microscopic to the galactic for 14 billion years but then fails to keep a mere 6000 lines of text intact for a millenium. Rather than turning on the detector, may I suggest switching on your brain?

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                            muslim1984
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                            Peace OPF, may i suggest that you turn on the detector and realise that all my remarks were sarcastic implying exactly what you stated in your post minus the theoritical numbers. I agree with you completly on what you stated. peace and love my bro/sis

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                              unknownuser
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                              I should have known from the first post

                              peace

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                                muslim1984
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                                peace

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                                  liquiddharma
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                                  Somehow I find it difficult to believe that the creator can maintain obscenely perfect precision over 3x1080 cubic metres of space from the microscopic to the galactic for 14 billion years but then fails to keep a mere 6000 lines of text intact for a millenium. Rather than turning on the detector, may I suggest switching on your brain?

                                  But no matter what happens in those 3*10 to the 80 cubic meters (surely an under estimate?) of space, no matter what changes, it in no way detracts from the power of God. Everything inside the universe is constantly changing, and that is a sign of God's greatness and creativity. Surely, if the same is true of the Quran, and it is also changing, that is even more a sign of God's omnipotence?

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                                    unknownuser
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                                    The estimate is merely the volume of the observable universe, due to the expansion we cannot actually compute the volume of the universe (if there is even such a thing).

                                    As for the changing quran - no it is not a sign of God's omnipotence. While everything is in flux, it obeys a single unchanging law. There is no reason why the quran needs to change if the writer is the creator of all - a human can write a maths book which was valid 10 billion years ago and will be in any future, how then can you say the creator is subject to limitation?

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                                      liquiddharma
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                                      The idea of an unchanging Quran is an attempt to subject God to a limitation, the limitation of the worlds, letters, numbers and symbols of the Quran. The reason why God does not come to earth and make it absolute and unchanging is the same as the reason why God did not come to earth and father a child with Mary, mother of Jesus. It isn't in God's nature to behave like that.

                                      God doesn't need Jesus nor the Quran to give human beings his guidance when he chooses to do so. God can deliver it directly into the heart, mind, soul, feelings and conscience of the Believer. This is what I see the Quran written down as being, the guidance from God recieved by the prophet, not infinite and unchanging, but still very wide, aware, noble and useful.

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                                        Arkan
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                                        LOL! Who are these people fooling other than themselves! confused

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                                          the_path_of_light
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                                          The idea of an unchanging Quran is an attempt to subject God to a limitation, the limitation of the worlds, letters, numbers and symbols of the Quran. The reason why God does not come to earth and make it absolute and unchanging is the same as the reason why God did not come to earth and father a child with Mary, mother of Jesus. It isn't in God's nature to behave like that.

                                          God doesn't need Jesus nor the Quran to give human beings his guidance when he chooses to do so. God can deliver it directly into the heart, mind, soul, feelings and conscience of the Believer. This is what I see the Quran written down as being, the guidance from God recieved by the prophet, not infinite and unchanging, but still very wide, aware, noble and useful.

                                          This quote nicely sums up my approach to Islam. Though I am not adding much to the discussion, I think this quote makes the thread worth reviving.

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