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The Most Dignified, the Most Elevated always comes as the last one

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    afridi220
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    "Mazhar In Pakistan, the President of Pakistan arrives at any place of gathering when all others have come and seated and on his arrival everyone stands and upon his coming at the stage the national anthem is immediately played which reflects that the whole nation is paying him tribute and salutation and men and women in uniform in that gathering keep continuously saluting him throughout the national anthem is played."

    Then what does it say about these people paying him tribute and salutations and claiming he is the Most dignified and elevated one?

    They are AS CORRUPT

    nope Not whole nation but the army band and diplomats present ! But if I become Pak president you will also consider me corrupt >

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      Ayisha
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      nope Not whole nation but the army band and diplomats present ! But if I become Pak president you will also consider me corrupt >

      That would depend on whether you run a corrupt government too wouldn't it jedi

      A title means just that, it's a title, it does not make the person using that title dignified or elevated in any way, what DOES make them dignified and elevated is how they apply the job that goes with that title. Once this president is not re-elected these people will choose a new one, who Mazhar and his people will again elevate as the last one to enter a room )

      still a silly topic but hey, getting used to it here

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        Mazhar
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        That would depend on whether you run a corrupt government too wouldn't it jedi

        A title means just that, it's a title, it does not make the person using that title dignified or elevated in any way, what DOES make them dignified and elevated is how they apply the job that goes with that title. Once this president is not re-elected these people will choose a new one, who Mazhar and his people will again elevate as the last one to enter a room

        still a silly topic but hey, getting used to it here

        So you agree to this extent only that so long he is the President, the people will pay him respects and acknowledge his dignified position. I hold the same opinion that the title and position held by a person does make him dignified for people.

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          Leyna
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          So you agree to this extent only that so long he is the President, the people will pay him respects and acknowledge his dignified position.

          With all respect, that is a very illogical argument. You don't pay someone respect just because of his position. There are countless people who don't respect their respective president / leader at all.
          ???

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            Ayisha
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            So you agree to this extent only that so long he is the President, the people will pay him respects and acknowledge his dignified position. I hold the same opinion that the title and position held by a person does make him dignified for people.

            I think it's the same all across the world that when you want a bus none comes then they all come at once and when you need a policeman you cannot find one but if you're up to no good they're everywhere. In UK we call it "Sod's Law" Do you agree this is worldwide?

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              Mazhar
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              Quote from Mazhar on Today at 081013 PM
              So you agree to this extent only that so long he is the President, the people will pay him respects and acknowledge his dignified position. I hold the same opinion that the title and position held by a person does make him dignified for people.

              I think it's the same all across the world that when you want a bus none comes then they all come at once and when you need a policeman you cannot find one but if you're up to no good they're everywhere. In UK we call it "Sod's Law" Do you agree this is worldwide?

              I had not thought that this thread could have caused such an imbalance and scattering in the thought process.

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                Ayisha
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                I had not thought that this thread could have caused such an imbalance and scattering in the thought process.

                has it? you are talking of something you assume is world wide and so am I. What's the problem with that? If you DO have a hidden motive, which you DO, then just post it and we can chase round 20 pages with me proving you wrong and you ignoring what I say, again. peace

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                  Mazhar
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                  has it? you are talking of something you assume is world wide and so am I. What's the problem with that? If you DO have a hidden motive, which you DO, then just post it and we can chase round 20 pages with me proving you wrong and you ignoring what I say, again. peace

                  Ayisha, watch yourself, you are losing balance also.

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                    Prince
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                    This post is silly. Your argument is fallacious in the sense that you start off with a rhetorical question to lead to a particular answer. It's like me asking you which Prophet was the best...Adam or Muhammed, pick your choice out of the two and not the countless others because Adam was first and Muhammed last

                    Keep beating around the bush your only making yourself dizzy

                    PEACE

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                      Ayisha, watch yourself, you are losing balance also.

                      i don't think so, but you are losing credence peace

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                        Raaajah
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                        Ayisha

                        The president of Egypt is as corrupt as your president of Pakistan, does that make either of them dignified or elevated?

                        What makes you say that? Do you have any proof?
                        For the Egyptian President and Pakistani President being Corrupt?
                        and Why your ex-prime Minister was thrown rotten eggs, and shoes at? and what about your Queens and Prince?

                        "How one behaves when one meets the Queen is fairly self-evident and obvious," said David Williamson, co-editor of Debrett's (the last word in social etiquette).
                        "Initially one should address her as Your Majesty, and thereafter Ma'am. Then it's Your Majesty again as one takes one's leave."

                        Everyone but the Queen Mother has to stand up when the Queen enters a room - even her nearest and dearest, should they ever be sitting together watching Eastenders or playing Scrabble.

                        Nigel Evans, of Majesty magazine said "It comes from the idea that the Queen is never off duty. Even in a private residence if she walks into a room, everyone has to stand up."

                        Then there's the convention of bowing and curtseying. Women should curtsey - "a little bob is quite sufficient" said Mr Williamson.

                        And men have to bow. Bowing on the face of it seems quite a complicated affair. Bowing from the waist is definitely out, and "strictly for the pantomime" according to the Spectator.

                        Instead men should either bow from the shoulders, or bob from the neck.

                        Therefore Mazhar you can just see, how do some of these just behave to a simple Question.
                        and what I posted is just not only for Britons, it is almost world over, and look how they are pretending to be innocent of not knowing such a thing as protocol.

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                          Ayisha
                          What makes you say that? Do you have any proof?
                          For the Egyptian President and Pakistani President being Corrupt?
                          check out the most currupt country list

                          and Why your ex-prime Minister was thrown rotten eggs, and shoes at? and what about your Queens and Prince?

                          "How one behaves when one meets the Queen is fairly self-evident and obvious," said David Williamson, co-editor of Debrett's (the last word in social etiquette).
                          "Initially one should address her as Your Majesty, and thereafter Ma'am. Then it's Your Majesty again as one takes one's leave."

                          Everyone but the Queen Mother has to stand up when the Queen enters a room - even her nearest and dearest, should they ever be sitting together watching Eastenders or playing Scrabble.

                          Nigel Evans, of Majesty magazine said "It comes from the idea that the Queen is never off duty. Even in a private residence if she walks into a room, everyone has to stand up."

                          Then there's the convention of bowing and curtseying. Women should curtsey - "a little bob is quite sufficient" said Mr Williamson.

                          And men have to bow. Bowing on the face of it seems quite a complicated affair. Bowing from the waist is definitely out, and "strictly for the pantomime" according to the Spectator.

                          Instead men should either bow from the shoulders, or bob from the neck.

                          Therefore Mazhar you can just see, how do some of these just behave to a simple Question.
                          and what I posted is just not only for Britons, it is almost world over, and look how they are pretending to be innocent of not knowing such a thing as protocol.

                          And this has what exactly to do with the most dignified and elevated coming last?

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                            Raaajah
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                            Ayisha

                            check out the most currupt country list -\

                            The word is "Corrupt".
                            Is this a proof rotfl
                            You believe in lists? really, you consider them as a proof?

                            The first person on Hart's list is Muhammad peace is upon him, then you should believe in that list too. He said Muhammad Peace is upon him is
                            "supremely successful" in both the religious and secular realms

                            Now the irritation will start, logical (in-fact illogical) philosophers will come in &

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                              Ayisha
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                              Ayisha
                              The word is "Corrupt".
                              yeah spelling definately suffering, or I have keyboard dyslexia -\

                              Is this a proof rotfl
                              You believe in lists? really, you consider them as a proof?
                              Its great you don't think your government is corrupt though hypno

                              The first person on Hart's list is Muhammad peace is upon him, then you should believe in that list too. He said Muhammad Peace is upon him is
                              "supremely successful" in both the religious and secular realms
                              I agree, he was supremely successful in both religious and secular realms.

                              Now the irritation will start, logical (in-fact illogical) philosophers will come in &

                              oh sorry, was I supposed to show irritation for some reason? You are the irritated and irritating one raj. )

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                                Ayisha

                                I agree, he was supremely successful in both religious and secular realms.

                                oh sorry, was I supposed to show irritation for some reason? You are the irritated and irritating one raj

                                and he was No # 1, as the list of Hart shows. Do you agree too? now comes the irritation.

                                Ayisha

                                Its great you don't think your government is corrupt though

                                Just leave me. Where is the proof?

                                Ayisha

                                yeah spelling definately suffering, or I have keyboard dyslexia

                                It is definitely.

                                So do you see how it is when you point out the spelling mistakes of others and laugh at them, rather concentrating on the argument.

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                                  Ayisha
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                                  Ayisha
                                  and he was No # 1, as the list of Hart shows. Do you agree too? now comes the irritation.
                                  Yes i know he was #1, your point of irritation is???

                                  Ayisha
                                  Just leave me. Where is the proof?
                                  proof you dont think your government is corrupt or proof they are?

                                  Ayisha
                                  It is definitely.
                                  correct, dunno why but my fingers always spell that one wrong. (

                                  So do you see how it is when you point out the spelling mistakes of others and laugh at them, rather concentrating on the argument.

                                  I have explained that I was not laughing at any spelling, I was laughing at you having the gall to say you had had to ask a question more than once laugh still laughing at that laugh but you will still ignore this as you did before and you will still accuse me of doing and saying what I have not. )

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    ayisha
                                    proof you dont think your government is corrupt or proof they are?

                                    you accused them of being corrupt, so where is the proof?

                                    Any way Happy EID to you and every one reading.

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      ayisha
                                      you accused them of being corrupt, so where is the proof?
                                      ok they are not, they are a wonderful government who support child labour and honour killings wonderfully

                                      Any way Happy EID to you and every one reading.

                                      Kul senna wa enta tayiba to everyone peace

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