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Is Prophet Muhammad?s duty to deliver Quran only?: No

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    Leyna
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    so how is that NOT understood and fully explained IN the verse?

    Yes, that's pretty comprehensive. So why the need for additional explanation / demonstration / clarification?

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      What a completely illogical and twisted statement and assumption that what you follow WAS what the prophet followed when CLEARLY he followed Quran to the letter. ???

      Your claim is Prophet Muhammad followed Quran to the letter AND you follow Quran to the letter.

      Therefore, your way is equal to the Prophet Muhammad's way.

      NO, NO, NO!!!!!! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!

      Prophet Muhammad used his wisdom to follow the Quran AND you use your wisdom (mostly NIL) to follow the Quran.

      Thus your way is not the same as Prophet's way.

      Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day and you pray 0-whatever numbers a day.

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        Leyna
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        Your claim is Prophet Muhammad followed Quran to the letter AND you follow Quran to the letter.

        Therefore, your way is equal to the Prophet Muhammad's way.

        It is not possible for Ayisha, or anyone else for that matter, to follow the Qur'an in exactly the same way Muhammad did. Neither is it desirable. We live in a different time, different culture, different circumstances, so it would not make sense to implement the wisdom of the Qur'an in exactly the same way a prophet in the seventh century in the Arabian desert did.

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          unknownuser
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          Peace,

          Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day

          How do you know this?

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            Peace,

            How do you know this?

            Prophet Muhammad reestablished the correct salat on earth and it is being preserved ever since. Just like Quran is. No way no how the salat structure can be tampered with. Perform a what if analysis and find the result for yourself.

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              unknownuser
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              Prophet Muhammad reestablished the correct salat on earth and it is being preserved ever since. Just like Quran is. No way no how the salat structure can be tampered with. Perform a what if analysis and find the result for yourself.

              I'm in process, the same with any subject matter (e.g. inheritance, fasting, timings, etc.);
              Take it then you follow opinion/s handed down from a particular clergy of long ago and not careful Qur'an study?

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                Leyna
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                Prophet Muhammad reestablished the correct salat on earth and it is being preserved ever since. Just like Quran is.

                Can this be proven in any way? confused

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                  Ayisha
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                  Your claim is Prophet Muhammad followed Quran to the letter AND you follow Quran to the letter.

                  Therefore, your way is equal to the Prophet Muhammad's way.

                  NO, NO, NO!!!!!! WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!!!!

                  Prophet Muhammad used his wisdom to follow the Quran AND you use your wisdom (mostly NIL) to follow the Quran.
                  I had the Wisdom to know you couldnt answer the question I asked and I had the wisdom to know WHY you still refuse to answer and have now turned to insults. How can you be so sure I am not doing it the same as the prophets did? You dont even know HOW I do any of it, you have based all your insuts on assumptions.

                  Thus your way is not the same as Prophet's way.

                  Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day and you pray 0-whatever numbers a day.

                  How do you KNOW any of this? how do you KNOW how many times he prayed and how many I pray?

                  Please tell us how you do wudu, not what Quran says because you seem to think thats not enough and was 'explained' byt the prophet to ADD things to it, which you probably follow as you think this has all been 'reestablished' and 'corrected'. Lets see how many pages and asks till I get an answer to this.

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                    Raaajah
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                    WAy FInder
                    Hope you are feeling well!. Waiting for your reply.

                    noon d Plume

                    Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day
                    How do you know this?

                    from, history, from Hadith, transfer from generation to generation.
                    I will be more than glad to know; HOW do you say that he did not prayed Five times a day?
                    Even a single Aayt from Quran will suffice.

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                      Ayisha
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                      WAy FInder
                      Hope you are feeling well!. Waiting for your reply.

                      noon d Plume

                      Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day
                      How do you know this?

                      from, history, from Hadith, transfer from generation to generation.
                      I will be more than glad to know; HOW do you say that he did not prayed Five times a day?
                      Even a single Aayt from Quran will suffice.

                      The same sahih hadith that say solomon slept with all 60 of his wives, all 70 of his wives, all 80 of his wives, all 99 (or 100) of his wives transmitted by the same person but 4 different numbers? If the sahih hadith manage to stuff that up what makes you so sure they got how many times muhammed prays a day right? The same sahih hadith that give 3 different numbers for how many times to wash your arms? Do you pick a number from these and decide its 'fact'?

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                        Raaajah
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                        ayisha

                        The same sahih hadith that say solomon slept with all 60 of his wives, all 70 of his wives, all 80 of his wives, all 99 (or 100) of his wives transmitted by the same person but 4 different numbers? If the sahih hadith manage to stuff that up what makes you so sure they got how many times muhammed prays a day right? The same sahih hadith that give 3 different numbers for how many times to wash your arms? Do you pick a number from these and decide its 'fact'?

                        It should be Muhammad with capital M. >( and Solomon with capital S.
                        Are you Noon de Plume? let him answer.
                        This is something that is above your comprehension, it is not that you are not intelligent -\ but it is your prejudice about Muhammad peace is upon him.
                        What does Solomon and his wife have to do with Muhammad peace is upon him and prayers? We shall first understand the meaning of Hadith and its usage before commenting on it.

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                          Ayisha
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                          ayisha
                          It should be Muhammad with capital M. > and Solomon with capital S.
                          Are you Noon de Plume? let him answer.

                          Anyone can answer a post Raj

                          This is something that is above your comprehension, it is not that you are not intelligent -\ but it is your prejudice about Muhammad peace is upon him.

                          I have absolutely NO prejudice against Muhammed, I have a great deal more respect for him than you do so much so that I do not attribute to a Prophet of God the obscene and rediculous rubbish in hadith which revert him to some type of fool. This you are quite happy to follow and truely believe a Prophet of God could have said these things.

                          What does Solomon and his wife have to do with Muhammad peace is upon him and prayers?

                          You skimmed my post? couldnt understand my post? what on earth made you think it was anything about Solomon and his wife? Maybe you are unaware of the Sahih Hadith i am referring to by Abu Hurairah?? It was the numbers Raj. Same story, same transmitter, 4 different numbers all in Sahih Bukhari so how can they all be right? = how can any referring to prayers of the Prophet be right?

                          We shall first understand the meaning of Hadith and its usage before commenting on it.

                          yes, when you have studied and understand that, let me know.

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                            Raaajah
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                            Ayisha

                            I have absolutely NO prejudice against Muhammed, I have a great deal more respect for him than you do so much so that I do not attribute to a Prophet of God the obscene and rediculous rubbish in hadith which revert him to some type of fool. This you are quite happy to follow and truely believe a Prophet of God could have said these things.

                            Why you keep on assuming? I do not follow Hadith.

                            Ayisha

                            Abu Hurairah?

                            Who is he? father of cats??

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                              Ayisha
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                              Ayisha
                              This you are quite happy to follow and truely believe a Prophet of God could have said these things.

                              Why you keep on assuming? I do not follow Hadith.

                              Prophet Muhammad prayed five times a day
                              How do you know this?

                              from, history, from Hadith, transfer from generation to generation.

                              really? did you mean to say something else there?

                              still waiting for an answer to 'where are the explanations' to the verses too. ;D

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                                Leyna
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                                It should be Muhammad with capital M. >( and Solomon with capital S.

                                Don't let me get started on misspellings and grammatical mistakes in your posts. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-009.gif

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                                  Ayisha
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                                  Don't let me get started on misspellings and grammatical mistakes in your posts. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/alles_moegliche/mixed-smiley-009.gif

                                  You see Leyna, this is exactly how it happens and has happened all through history. I made a comment on a post Raj made, Raj MISunderstood and assumed I was laughing at his spelling, which I wasn't, and he has carried on correcting all my typo's since then. If I am not here to say 'thats not how it was' then very soon it will be believed that what he says I did is what I did, which it wasnt.

                                  This is how Judaism, Christianity and Islam have been changed by their tongues.

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                                    Raaajah
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                                    Ayisha

                                    really? did you mean to say something else there?

                                    No! I mean exactly Hadith here.
                                    So? does it imply what you are trying to suppose?

                                    Leyna

                                    Don't let me get started on misspellings and grammatical mistakes in your posts.

                                    You are welcome in good faith and not to make fun of some one.

                                    Plus she and you often show no respect to Prophets of Allah as commanded by Allah, and I will keep correcting that, no matter how irritating it is to you.

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      Ayisha
                                      No! I mean exactly Hadith here.
                                      So? does it imply what you are trying to suppose?

                                      So you know the prophet prayed 5 times a day, like you, from hadith, but you don't follow hadith?

                                      You claim that the prophet 'explained' the verses and refuse to answer where these explanations are, yet one is in hadith as you have said above, and you follow the explanations as you have claimed, so yes it does imply that you follow the hadith

                                      Plus she and you often show no respect to Prophets of Allah as commanded by Allah, and I will keep correcting that, no matter who irritating it is to you.

                                      Who is 'she'? the cats mother?

                                      Leyna and I have never showed anything but respect for the prophet, if you think otherwise provide proof.

                                      you can correct my spellings its not irritating at all, although i don't understand your comment 'no matter who irritating it is to you', did you perhaps mean 'how'?

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                                        Raaajah
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                                        Another example of your cheater nature

                                        quoted by ayisha and posted at 239

                                        Plus she and you often show no respect to Prophets of Allah as commanded by Allah, and I will keep correcting that, no matter who irritating it is to you.

                                        making bold the typo,

                                        However my last edit in the post was at 235, four minutes prior to your post.

                                        Plus she and you often show no respect to Prophets of Allah as commanded by Allah, and I will keep correcting that, no matter how irritating it is to you.

                                        Ayisha

                                        So you know the prophet prayed 5 times a day, like you, from hadith, but you don't follow hadith?

                                        You have to go back a little in thread, to look at what was being discussed.

                                        Ayisha

                                        Leyna and I have never showed anything but respect for the prophet, if you think otherwise provide proof.

                                        If you remove "but" from the sentence and add "full" with respect it would make sense.

                                        Leyna , Ayisha, Samia and Egypt, same style, same arguments,hmmmmm.. I smell something fishy.

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          Another example of your cheater nature

                                          quoted by ayisha and posted at 239
                                          making bold the typo,

                                          However my last edit in the post was at 235, four minutes prior to your post.
                                          so it took me 4 minutes to finish posting what I posted. if I had quoted your edited post I would have had nothing to say on that matter as I saw it when I had completed my post. No 'cheating' Raj, slow posting due to doing a few things at once.

                                          So you cannot show anywhere were Layna or I have showed any disrespect to the prophet.

                                          So you know the prophet prayed 5 times a day, like you, from hadith, but you don't follow hadith?

                                          You have to go back a little in thread, to look at what was being discussed.
                                          I have read all that was discussed, that's why I replied to it. That is what you said.

                                          Ayisha
                                          If you remove "but" from the sentence and add "full" with respect it would make sense.
                                          It makes perfect sense as it is and please do not try correcting what I mean to say as well as my typo's. If I do as you say there is will make NO sense at all, look.

                                          "Leyna and I have never showed anything full respect for the prophet, if you think otherwise provide proof."

                                          see? no sense at all and you still cannot provide any proof again.

                                          Leyna , Ayisha, Samia and Egypt, same style, same arguments,hmmmmm.. I smell something fishy.
                                          Then go and take a shower.

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