Quran only mistakes
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sunni and shi'a are the closest to quranists than jews and christians,
I already proved in my post prior to this
As has already been proven
I love it when people simply state their opinion and then claim they "proved" something. http//www.imagebanana.com/img/wg5lygwz/00008242.gif
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anyone who is interested in a purely academic discussion from the Quraan based on logic will definitely be invited to discuss with me.
so called "Quraanists" are the most ignorant people about the Quraan.
Bit of a contradiction here, I'd say ?
How and would I be able to have an "academic discussion based on logic" with someone who already has a preconceived notion of me? And why should I be interested in wasting my time with a person whose only interest is to prove me wrong and assert his own superiority?
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sunni and shi'a are the closest to quranists than jews and christians
On the contrary, the Quraaniyoon (Quranists) are even more misguided and astray than the Jews and Christians.
While Jews and Christians are People of the Book, the Quraaniyoon are heretics.
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There are literally dozens of verses, too many to list even, where the Quraan enjoins us to obey Allaah and obey His Messenger , to believe in Allaah and believe in His Messenger . So the Prophet is constantly mentioned alongside Allaah in the Quraan. Therefore, your objection is useless, unless you want to deny the Quraan as well!
OK so explain why this has anything to do with following rumors and hearsay spread 200 years after Qur'an?
My challenge still stands, and to date, not a single one of you has been able to address it
Show me a single verse from the Holy Quraan which says that the sole source of guidance and the sole revelation to the Prophet Muhammad is the Holy Quran - and nothing but the Holy Quraan.
That's easy...
21-2 alif-lam-meem, this (is) the book no doubt in it, a guidance for the God-conscious.
Now your turn; post one hadith "no doubt in it" and swear by God stake your soul it is true?
Perhaps kill all puppies especially the black evil ones ...
Hadith - Muslim, narrated Maymunah
One morning Allah's Messenger was silent with grief. Maymunah said Allah's Messenger, I find a change in your mood today. Allah's Messenger saidGabriel had promised me that he would meet me last night, but he did not meet me. By Allah, he never broke his promises; and Allah's Messenger spent the day in this sad (mood). Then it occurred to him that there had been a puppy under their cot. He gave an order and it was turned out. He then took some water in his hand and sprinkled it on the place. When it was evening Gabriel met him and he said to him You promised me that you would meet me the previous night. He said Yes, but we do not enter a house in which there is a dog or a picture. So the very next morning he commanded the dogs to be killed. He announced that the dog kept for the orchards should also be killed, but he spared the dog used for the protection of extensive fields (or big gardens). -
On the contrary, the Quraaniyoon (Quranists) are even more misguided and astray than the Jews and Christians.
While Jews and Christians are People of the Book, the Quraaniyoon are heretics.
Peace.
Could you please expand on your thinking here a little? I'm curious about your reasoning.
Do you think that a person adhering strictly to monotheism and accepts the divinity of the Qur'an while rejecting the divinity of hadith is further from the truth than a Christian who believes that Jesus constitutes part of a tri-une God, while rejecting the Qur'an, the prophecy of Mohammed AND all actions and sayings attributed to him?
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Maseehullaah; please, you calling the people who loves and follow the word of allah a heretics??? , The quran , the words that there is no doubt, Mohamed's words with no doubt, Mohamed was a walking quran according to your hadiths, so think about it , what is a walking quran, a person who applied the whole of the quran upon himself, no more nor less, for he was a walking quran, not a koran and some sahih bukhari, not a quran and tafsir ibn kathir, not a quran and Wicked stories of tabari, but a walking quran, this is the only hadith that makes perfect sense, doesn't contradict the quran, for allah commanded Mohamed, to convey the quran ,not add anything to it, not substract, the whole quran to all mankibd, he was the first example, we follow mohamed, we follow the quran jusy like him, Mohamed because he was a quranist, he succesed, after him around 300 years, came sunnis and shiis, they failed, they let the islamic kingdon of allah fall, now we want to be quranists like mohamed and his high characters and pious companions, what is wrong with trying to be like Mohamed, a QURAN only person, Why do we have to be tabari or ibn kathir or sahihbukhari or sahihmuslim ......person??? OUR teacher is Mohamed through the word of ALLAH , the word of allah is the quran and not Bukhari or tirmizi ... , Allah gave Mohamed One Mighty Book to his Mighty messenger as he did to his Other mighty messengers Jesus Moses and the rest, why u want us to follow what the church teaches as christians or what the talmud teaches as jews or what the hadith teaches as sunnis or what Khabar teaches as shiaas? we want to be Mohamed's students, we want to learn his message wich is the quran, we want to follow the quran, we love mohamed because he brought to us the quran, we love the quran because it's the word of allah , We LOVE ALLAH for he is allah , our creator, why you want us to rever bukhari? who is bukhar? who is tabari? who is Ibn Kathir? all they did is put a barrier between muslims and the quran, to get to the quran you have to go through them!!! to get to mohamed teachings, you have to go through them, therefore to get to allah you have to get through them, brother, think about it, doesn't it sound like catholics? like rabbis jews.? i was a sunni, and i'm still a sunni, but i am sunna of allah, just like Mohamed the exalted messenger, i don't believe mohamed followed his sunna through bukhari and tabari, i believe mohamed's sunna is the quran , peace, may Allah guide us all
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OK so explain why this has anything to do with following rumors and hearsay spread 200 years after Qur'an?
Hadith are not rumors or hearsay. They are the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him) narrated by his Companions. They were not created 200 years after the Quraan, they were compiled (as in collected and written down) much earlier than that. For example, the Muwatta of Imam Malik was compiled in the before the third century Hijri, quite early on. In fact, many ahadith were compiled even before that, within the first century of Islaam, such as the Sahifah of Hammam ibn Munnabih, a student of the companion Abu Hurairah, and the Musannaf of Abdur Razzaq as-Sanaa'i.
So first study the history of Hadith before you make such ignorant statements.
That's easy...
21-2 alif-lam-meem, this (is) the book no doubt in it, a guidance for the God-conscious.
This verse doesn't address my challenge, which is to show a single verse from the Quraan which says only the Quraan is revealed by Allaah to the Prophet (peace be upon him)
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Peace.
Could you please expand on your thinking here a little? I'm curious about your reasoning.
Do you think that a person adhering strictly to monotheism and accepts the divinity of the Qur'an while rejecting the divinity of hadith is further from the truth than a Christian who believes that Jesus constitutes part of a tri-une God, while rejecting the Qur'an, the prophecy of Mohammed AND all actions and sayings attributed to him?
A person who rejects the Hadeeth is actually rejecting the Quraan, because Allaah says in the Quraan to obey the Messenger, and to take whatever he gives, and to forbid ourselves whatever he has forbidden for us. The Quraan also says that everything the Prophet (peace be upon him) says is a revelation from Allaah
So by rejecting the Hadeeth, you are not only rejecting the Prophet (peace be upon him), you are also rejecting the Quraan.
The first Hadeeth-rejectors in the history of Islaam was the Khawaarij sect. They rejected the Sunnah and the Hadeeth. Their spiritual ancestor is Dhul Khuwaisirah, one of the hypocrites, who criticized the Prophet (peace be upon him) and told him to be just and to fear Allaah. The Prophet (peace be upon him) responded that who is more just than him, and who is more fearing of Allaah than him? And then the Prophet (peace be upon him) predicted that from the loins of Dhul Khuwaisirah there would come a people who would recite the Quraan, but it would not go beyond their throats, meaning, the guidance of the Quraan would not penetrate into their hearts, despite their reading of it. These Khawaarij would be young, immature people with no knowledge, following their desires. They would reject the Hadeeth and the Sunnah, they would raise slogans of justice.
Yet this is one of the deviant sects that the Prophet (peace be upon him) warned about, and mentioned that they are the "Dogs of the Hellfire"
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Maseehullaah
Your are blaspheming brother, you're juging, only allah is the jugeYou want to stick wiith ibn kathir and bukhari ? cool, than stick with them , remember, bukhari say the prophet married a 9 years old girl and many more that you know, words that aren't reflecting his high standard caracter
The prophet taught the Quran, do u believe that ? do u believe that the sahaba killed each other ? when allah says You were the best pious people , I believe allah and not the HAdith that contradict allah
The propphet was tolerant, smart, civilised and wise , many hadith tells the oposite, so i don(t believe these hadiths
the prophet respected and applied the quran fully, no adding anything to it and no substracting, do u believe in that ?
your hadith says he's was walking quran, does that mean anything to u ?
Why would the prophet says in the hearafter my lord, my people left this quran ? how do u leave the quran? by applying only hadith to understand it, like there's a barrier between muslims and the quran, this barrier is the hadith
Dont the hadith call the first pillar shahadatayn ? shahadatayn to whom ? who are these 2 parteners who shahada?
better open your mind and do your research to find what is gonna amaze you, how the quran powerfull and one more think , is there any enemy of islam that can attack mulims thrugh the quran ? they can't, but through hadith, they will find , like mohamed been called pedophile because of hadith, mohamed been called violant because of hadith, mohamed been called a pirate because of hadith, mohamed been called brutal because of stoning humans because of hadiths and much more, don(t you realise than the enemies of the prophet and his civilised umma at that time infiltrated muslims and inserted many false teachings as hadith , the reason we get devided into sects and political parties fighting each other, don't u read history and learn from what time began the collapse of the islamic empire? the greatest empire in the history of mankind? Do your reasearch without any prejudice in your heart and allah will show you the truth
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The Quraan also says that everything the Prophet (peace be upon him) says is a revelation from Allaah
God admonishes Mohammed for errors in 661 and 801 - if everything the Prophet said was revelation, how could he possibly need corrections?
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Maseehullaah; please, you calling the people who loves and follow the word of allah a heretics??? , The quran , the words that there is no doubt
Allaah Himself says that the Quraan causes those who are wrongdoers to become even more misguided in their disbelief
Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from your Lord increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief
So just by accepting the Quraan doesn't mean you have true faith. True faith requires that you accept the Messenger of Allaah as the only judge between all the disputes amongst us . But since you reject the Hadeeth of the Prophet , you are no different from the deviant Khawaarij sect which also rejected the Hadeeth and followed their own desires and wrong interpretation of the Quraan.
Allaah says that He revealed the Reminder, and the job of the Messenger is to explain it
If you reject the words of the Messenger , how can you know what is his explanation of the Reminder?
Therefore, you are misguided heretics, just like the Khawaarij of old, because even they believed in the Quraan and used to read it intensely. In fact, when the fourth khalifah of Islaam, Ali ibn Abi Taalib sent Ibn Abbaas to debate with the Khawaarij sect at their camp, when he approached their camp he heard a sound like buzzing, which was the Khawaarij reading the Quraan.
But even though they believed in the Quraan (and rejected the Hadeeth), they were clearly misguided and rebellious group.
, Mohamed's words with no doubt
Then why do you reject the Hadeeth?
The Quraan is not the words of Prophet Muhammad . The Quraan is the Word of God.
Yet, Allaah says in the Quraan that the words of the Prophet are revelation, just like the Quraan is revelation
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Abu Hurairah was a liar with a faulty memory.
Says who?
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Maseehullaah
Your are blaspheming brother, you're juging, only allah is the jugeAllaah says that the Prophet Muhammad is the judge of our disputes
This is another proof that Hadeeth is a crucial element of our Religion, and if you reject the Hadeeth, you are rejecting the order of Allaah to obey the Messenger and accept him as the judge in all our disputes.
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Peace on you
If you think it's a waste of time, feel free to ignore my posts. But anyone who is interested in a purely academic discussion from the Quraan based on logic will definitely be invited to discuss with me. If you want to resort to emotions and stereotypes, you may do so, but you will only further expose how so called "Quraanists" are the most ignorant people about the Quraan.
I find the posts by maseehullah amusing because he mentions logic and he mentions ignorance and then demonstrates lack of logic and ignorance not only about what the quraan says but ignorance about logical fallacies as well.
His basic argument that he put forth in defense of his entire straw structure is based on a logical fallacy!
Had he not been ignorant about the quraan and logical fallacies and had he not been illogical he would have seen the truth easily that his position and basic argument is completely refuted from the quraan and from logic and is untenable.
Firstly I would like to tell the readers briefly about myself so they are clear as to what my basic views are.
I am NOT a quraanist
I am NOT a quraan aloner
I am NOT a "Muslim" (sectarian capital M)
I am NOT a Jew or Christian or Hindu or Buddhist or any of the man made concoctions
I am NOT an atheist
I am NOT an agnostic about existence of the god
I am NOT a code 19erI AM a monotheist (haneef)
I try my best to be among the peaceful (muslim)
I believe in God alone and have NO DOUBT whatsoever about existence of ONE GOD who has no partners
I consider myself at the position of being able to say the following per 318Ashhadu an la ilaha illallah
I bear witness that there is no god but the GodI do believe that majority of the quraan is from that one God (almost 99.99% of it)
Currently I am in doubt about a few vowels and words and verses in the currently existing written quraan being from the one God (I am not talking about 9128-129). I do believe that the message relevant to our guidance from the god is 100 % preserved and can be found in the currently existing written quraan.I believe in ALL signs (ayaat) of the God and that they are not limited to the quraan alone as per the quraan itself
We will show them Our signs in the horizons, and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth. Is it not enough that your Lord is witness over all things? 4153
I do believe that there were revelations outside the quraan to Muhammad the messenger and the khaatam of the prophets, as implied in the quraan itself (2143, 2187, 3123-126, 87, 3337, 4815, 663)
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9653.msg63522#msg63522
My methodology is based on using logic and reasoning, consistency of signs, and knowledge/verification
It is such that We detail the revelations for a people who think. (see 1024)
It is such that We detail the revelations for a people who have sense/who use their reason. (see 302Do they not reflect on the Quran? If it was from any other than God they would have found in it many a discrepancy. (482)
And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and heart, all these you are responsible for. (1736)
In fact using the principle of 482 I think I might have found a few vowels/words/verses that might not be part of the written version of the quraan nowadays, because the original quraan revealed by the god did not have contradictions/discrepancies but that is a topic in itself and I will start another thread on it later god willing. Once again I am not a code 19er and I am not talking about 9128-129 which I do believe are part of the original quraan. Code 19 has no basis in the quraan and is nothing but a fitna/temptation for the disbelievers.
Using the above methodology we can ascertain with absolute certainty what is a sign of the god and what is not; what was inspired by the god and what was not; and what we can follow and what we cannot.
Having said all this, now I am going to point out the logical fallacy in maseehullah's basic argument which has mislead not only him but countless others.
First he states that we are also supposed to follow Muhammad the messenger of the god as per the quraan
Say If you love God then follow me so God will love you and forgive your sins. God is Forgiver, Merciful. (331)
Say This is my way, I invite to God in full disclosure, myself and whoever follows me. And glory be to God; and I am not of the polytheists. (1210
AGREED ) We have to follow the sabeel of Muhammad the messenger of the god
Then he says that Muhammad the messenger of the god only follows inspiration from the god.
AGREED ) 650, 7203, 1015, 10109, 332, 469
Then he says that it does not state in the quraan that it is the only inspiration of the god to His messenger Muhammad. This implies there must have been inspiration to Muhammad other than the quraan
AGREED ) as I stated above the quraan does imply there was revelation outside the quraan to Muhammad the messenger of the god
Then he says because we have to follow Muhammad the messenger of the god per the quraan, this means there is something other than the quraan which was inspired to him that we also have to follow in addition to the quraan.
This is where he makes a logical fallacy and demonstrates ignorance of the quraanic signs hence I have to disagree
I will now present 3 proofs from the quraan which prove that his argument is flawed and his position is untenable.
Firstly,
It is clear that Muhammad the messenger of the god says according to the quraan that he follows only that which is inspired to him from the god. Let us see what the quraan says relevant to this, as to what Muhammad the messenger himself is asked to follow
Then We inspired to you You shall follow the creed of Abraham, monotheism, and he was not of the polytheists. (16123)
Say God bears truth. Follow the creed of Abraham, monotheism, and he was not of the polytheists. (395)
And who is better in the system than the one who submits himself to God, and he is a good doer, and he follows the creed of Abraham in monotheism? And God took Abraham as a friend. (4125)
Ok, we have to follow Muhammad the messenger of the god, and he is directly being asked to follow the creed of Abraham the messenger of the god, so logically, in order to follow Muhammad we have to follow the creed of Abraham, and for that we need to know the sabeel/sunnah/hadith of Abraham.
Where can we find this 100% authentic sabeel/sunnah/hadith/creed of Abraham the messenger of the god? other than mentioned in the quraan?
Secondly,
Let's see what the god wants us to follow out of his revelations
And follow the best of what has been sent down to you from your Lord, before the retribution comes to you suddenly when you least expect it. (3955)
What is the best of what has been sent down from Him?
God has sent down THE BEST HADITH, a Book fully consistent within itself, repeating each statement in manifold forms. The skins of those who are concerned towards their Lord shiver from it, then their skins and their hearts soften up to the remembrance of God. Such is the guidance of God; He guides with it whoever He wills. And for whoever God misguides, then none can guide him. (3923)
We tell to you THE BEST stories through what We have inspired to you in this Quran; and before it you were of those who were unaware. (123)
The best can only be one.
So we have to follow Muhammad, and he is asked to follow THE BEST of what has been sent down to him from the god, and the best has been defined as the Book sent down to him which can only be the quraan.
Say Which is the greatest testimony? Say God is witness between me and you, and He has inspired to me this Quran that I may warn you with it and whoever it reaches, that you are bearing witness that with God are other gods! Say I do not bear witness! Say He is only One god, and I am innocent of what you have set up! (619)
This sign proves that Muhammad the messenger of the god wanted us to follow only the quraan because of the wording "that I may warn you WITH IT". He doesn't say "that I may warn you with it and my hadith and sunna". So even though there had been other inspirations to him he warned the people only with the quraan so in order to follow him it is enough to follow the quraan only.
And thus We have inspired to you an Arabic Quran, so that you may warn the capital town and all around it, and to warn about the Day of Gathering that is inevitable. A group will be in the Paradise, and a group in Hell. (427)
Again Muhammad the messenger of the god is being asked to warn with the quraan only.
Thirdly,
The logical fallacy )
Just because Muhammad the messenger of the god was inspired other than the quraan in addition to the quraan DOES NOT mean that we have to or need to follow the inspirations other than the quraan, IF the quraan is complete and fully detailed and has the details of everything relevant to our guidance.
If the quraan is fully detailed and contains the details of everything relevant to our guidance, then following the quraan would be ENOUGH, and we don't need to follow the other inspirations outside the quraan.
Let me illustrate with an example
A person can have authored 10 books and states that one of his 10 books contains all details and everything he authored. In that case the other 9 books would be SUBSETS of that one book and reading his one book which contains details of everything he wrote would be ENOUGH. There will be no need to read the other 9 books because the information contained in those 9 books will already be in the tenth complete book.
Now if it can be proved from the quraan that quraan has the details of EVERYTHING relevant to our guidance and it is fully detailed and complete, then following the quraan would be ENOUGH and there will be no need to follow the other inspirations outside the quraan because the message of the other inspirations would already be included in the quraan.
Shall I seek other than God as a judge when He has sent down to you the Book fully detailed? Those to whom We have given the Book know it is sent down from your Lord with the truth; so do not be of those who have doubt. And the word of your Lord has been completed with truth and justice; there is no changing His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (6114-115)
In their stories is a lesson for those who possess intelligence. It is not a HADITH that has been invented, but an authentication of what is between his hands and a detailing of all things, and a guidance and a mercy for a people who believe. (12111)
And We have sent down to you the Book as a clarification for all things, and a guidance and a mercy and good tidings to those who have submitted. (see 1689)
Is it not enough for them that We have sent down to you the Book that is being recited to them? In that is a mercy and a reminder for people who believe.
Any hadith atttributed to the messenger which contradicts the quraan can be immediately rejected.
Any hadith attributed to the messenger that adds to the quraan can immediately be rejected because the quraan is fully detailed, contains details of ALL things and clarifies ALL things.
Any hadith attributed to the messenger that says something that is already mentioned in the quraan is redundant.The quraan itself is the hadith of the messenger because it is the utterance of the messenger
This is the utterance of an honorable messenger.
It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe.
Nor the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed.
A revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
And had he attributed anything falsely to Us.
We would have seized him by the right.
Then, We would have severed his life-line.
None of you would be able to prevent it. (6940-47)It is the BEST HADITH and following this best hadeeth is ENOUGH to follow the messenger.
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The above verse of The Qur?aan you?ve quoted and all other similar verses commanding the believers to follow the messengers of GOD are all about the time when the messengers were alive and living, so the believers would be able to follow the tangible living messenger.
Should we today must to ride a camel? ;D
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WOW quantum, may Allah bless you , and thank you for the effort in explaining for the brother sunni, hopefully he will take time to think about your post, and think about it seriously, because you spoke only the quran, nobody can argue with the quran except if he doesn't believe in it.
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Allaah says that the Prophet Muhammad is the judge of our disputes
This is another proof that Hadeeth is a crucial element of our Religion, and if you reject the Hadeeth, you are rejecting the order of Allaah to obey the Messenger and accept him as the judge in all our disputes.
I hate to break this to you, but you do know he died 1378 years ago don't you?
How can he be the judge in our disputes NOW?
How can you obey him NOW?
By following what he followed, which is Quran.
You really need to open your eyes my friend. peace
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Peace on you
I find the posts by maseehullah amusing because he mentions logic and he mentions ignorance and then demonstrates lack of logic and ignorance not only about what the quraan says but ignorance about logical fallacies as well.
His basic argument that he put forth in defense of his entire straw structure is based on a logical fallacy!
Had he not been ignorant about the quraan and logical fallacies and had he not been illogical he would have seen the truth easily that his position and basic argument is completely refuted from the quraan and from logic and is untenable.
Although your post reveals that you too are totally ignorant of the Quraan, I at least congratulate you for having the courage to engage me in a debate using actual arguments, and not like the rest of the people on this forum who didn't even try to discuss with me academically, but only using their emotions and slogans.
I do believe that majority of the quraan is from that one God (almost 99.99% of it)
Currently I am in doubt about a few vowels and words and verses in the quraan being from the one God (I am not talking about 9128-129)Then you are not a true believer, because the true believers are those who believe in the ENTIRE Quraan, they don't accept part of it and reject other part of it
We believe in it, all of it is from our Lord
But you fall in the category, regarding whom Allaah says
Is it a part of the Book you believe in, and you disbelieve in a part?
I believe in ALL signs (ayaat) of the God and that they are not limited to the quraan alone as per the quraan itself
Indeed, and one of the Signs of Allaah is His sending of the Messenger . Because Allaah didn't just send the Quraan, He sent the Quraan AND the Messenger. You can't have one without the other.
I do believe that there were revelations outside the quraan to Muhammad the messenger and the khaatam of the prophets, as implied in the quraan itself (2143, 2187, 3123-126, 87, 3337, 4815, 663)
Then logically, you must accept this fact that true believers are commanded not only to follow the Quraan, but to follow ALL Revelation from Allaah to His Messenger, as Allaah says
Those who follow the Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet whom they found written about in the Torah and the Gospel, He commands them the Good, and forbids them the evil, and allows them the Pure things, and forbids them the impure, and he releases them from their heavy burdens, and from the fetters that were upon them. So those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which has been sent down with him, it is they who will be successful.
Secondly,
Let's see what the god wants us to follow out of his revelationsAnd follow the best of what has been sent down to you from your Lord, before the retribution comes to you suddenly when you least expect it. (3955)
What is the best of what has been sent down from Him?
The Best of that which Allaah has sent down to the Prophet is indeed the Holy Quraan. No doubt about it.
Yet this same verse you quoted is another proof that that Allaah has sent down other revelation besides this Quraan, i.e. the Hadith Qudsi for example.
The point is, Allaah has commanded us in numerous verses in the Quraan to follow everything which has been revealed to the Messenger of Allaah .
Yes, Allaah commands us to follow the best of that which has been sent down to him by his Lord, yet He never says that you will follow that exclusively, meaning, to the exclusion to all other revelation.
So the logical fallacy on your part is to take something which is general command and turn it into an exclusive command.
If Allaah said to follow nothing but the Quraan, or follow nothing but the best of that which He sent down, you would be right, but when He said to follow the best of that which is sent down to the Prophet , it was not an exclusive command to follow only that.
This sign proves that Muhammad the messenger of the god wanted us to follow only the quraan because of the wording "that I may warn you WITH IT". He doesn't say "that I may warn you with it and my hadith and sunna". So even though there had been other inspirations to him he warned the people only with the quraan so in order to follow him it is enough to follow the quraan only.
Once again you repeat the same logical fallacy, which is turning something general into exclusive.
Allaah also commanded the Prophet to stand in prayer during the night, except for a little . Does it mean that the Prophet didn't have to stand for prayer at other times? Obviously that's not the case, because Allaah enjoined upon the Prophet to pray at other times as well besides the night in various verses of the Quraan.
therefore, don't take something which is general and make it exclusive, unless the verse itself is making it exclusive.
And thus We have inspired to you an Arabic Quran, so that you may warn the capital town and all around it, and to warn about the Day of Gathering that is inevitable. A group will be in the Paradise, and a group in Hell. (427)
Again Muhammad the messenger of the god is being asked to warn with the quraan only.
I didn't see the word "only" in the verse you quoted.
Thirdly,
The logical fallacy
Just because Muhammad the messenger of the god was inspired other than the quraan in addition to the quraan DOES NOT mean that we have to or need to follow the inspirations other than the quraan, IF the quraan is complete and fully detailed and has the details of everything relevant to our guidance.
If the quraan is fully detailed and contains the details of everything relevant to our guidance, then following the quraan would be ENOUGH, and we don't need to follow the other inspirations outside the quraan.
The Quraan is general and requires further explanation, that is why Allaah said that the duty of the Messenger is to explain the Reminder which is sent down
The Quraan also commands us to take whatever the Messenger allows us, and abstain from whatever he forbids.
In another thread I gave a perfect example of this principle and why it is necessary. In the Quraan, Allaah says He has only forbidden four things to eat 1) dead meat, 2) blood, 3) pork, 4) any meat upon which other than Allaah's Name has been pronounced Therefore, for those who follow only the Quraan as guidance, all other meat is permissible, including dog meat, cat meat, snake meat, eagle, hawk, etc.
Yet we know for a fact that these animals and their meat is just as impure as the pig, and that is why we know from the Hadeeth that the Messenger of Allaah prohibited the eating of any animal that has fangs, and any bird that has talons.
But you as a "Quraan-only" follower will have no problem eating the impure meat of dogs, cats, snakes, and eagles. You claim to follow the way of Abraham, but actually you are following the way of pagans, chinese, etc., who eat these impure meat. Even in the Torah, these impure meats are forbidden.
So yes, the Quraan is indeed fully detailed...NOT because it contains all the instructions and regulations for our guidance...but because it tells us to obey the Messenger and to take whatever he allows us, and abstain from whatever he forbids us.
The Quraan is not fully detailed in the way you think, otherwise why would Allaah not mention in the Quraan that dog meat, cat meat, snake meat, etc., is forbidden, and why in the Quraan would He tell us to take everything the Messenger allows, and abstain from everything He forbids?