There is No God.
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Salaam asubmitter,
I'm a Satanist?
A branch of Roman Catholic dogma I believe you are referring to; a belief that there is a personified male human in the sky who is a God, he sits in a big chair, and has a white beard, and he has a son to a women he met in a small desert town some years back.
He had a servant who got jealous of his job a long time ago, he punished him by giving him a nice warm kingdom to rule over with his own servants, the Roman Catholic dogma continues under their logic that if you do not accept this narrative as absolutely true you will be forced to be subjugated to the cast out servants kingdom, where the personified God has no power.
So a Satanist is a Roman Catholic who cannot be a good person, so they decide if they are going to have to spend time in the kingdom of the cast out servant, then they are best off making him as happy as they can in this life, so getting ingratiated with the boss early on.
Further under Roman Catholic dogma, this personified God in the sky will one day forgive the erring servant and allow him to return to the kingdom of the personified God, when this occurs all the servants of the original cast out servant will also be allowed to enter the kingdom of the personified God.
This dogma doesn't sound like something I'd believe, are you certain you have verified your sources and established your facts correctly asubmitter?
I'm a BNP agent?
well I have no recollection of joining, let alone being employed by them as an agent, I know the British National Party stands for sovereignty, state and racial purity, while I espouse no sovereign of any sort, as Allah is the Only sovereign, all states stand in direct opposition to common law, so we conflict there also, and I'm also a cosmopolite. Are you certain you have verified your sources and got your facts correct asubmitter, to accuse falsely is a crime when you are a Muslim, I wouldn't want you to be viewed as a slanderer, lier, backbiter and muck spreader if you have the evidence to support you accusations?
I'm a white supremacist?
A belief that white people are superior to people of other ethnic backgrounds, I don't remember expressing that view, are you certain I did that? Could you refresh my memory asubmitter, when and where and to whom?
I'm a Devil worshipper?
Strange I have a strong belief that worship is nothing to do with Islam, I believe you should not worship worldly sovereigns, I believe you should not worship anything, yet you think I'm off worshipping these Devils of the Christian dogma, again I'm puzzled as to where you have found such evidence, the facts you are expressing seem to be against every memory I possess, why is that asubmitter?
Are you certain you are a Muslim asubmitter, you seem to be demonstrating characteristics that no Muslim, by anyones definition, should possess, or are you a Christian, Jew or Zoroastrian?
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Peace Asubmitter
You have made some serious allegations against Abdul Noor, as you seem to be a very devout Religious Muslim, I believe you will be able to provide hard core evidence against Abdul Noor.If not I believe you are big and strong enough to eat humble pie and apologize to Abdul Noor .
Peace Salim
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I do not see it in terms of Catholicism, hypocrisy, lies and ignorance, are not the path of God, the straight path means the denunciation of the devil, and the upholding of God's commandments. Catholicism doesn't have sole rights to religion, remember there are 3 branches of Semitic religions. If we have the old and new, what is the third? Final or last? And we find Dr. Rashad Khalifa's translation of the Quran to be named 'The Final Testament'.
Everything is in accordance with God's will. God controls everything. It could possibly be before its time if you are so intelligent white man, why did not see this, nor could you take rights to the book 3 by A Submitter. You think you are so fast, rich and clever, you will lose all three rulership, ownership and control. The Headmaster, the GP, the Professor.
Satanists are those who think there is a temporal thing or a causality in God's creation which will lead to the overcoming God's innocent will of peace. or the destruction of the system of God, or the seduction of God to lies or deception. This is the enticement of Satan, and you see it clearly with their pyramid and all-seeing eye, and their belief in war, their game of chess to take it piece by piece, when there is 666 behind their side, this is the white man quest, to conquer the mind, through years and years of subjugation, to enslave, this is the agenda of Satanists. But submitters wish to redeem their souls.
On one hand there are those who say God is incompetent, as everything becomes an attachment to the person rather than a belonging of God, a test through which God knows those who are appreciative and those who are unappreciative. Those who seek God, and those who do not seek God but expect God to seek them. Forgetting God is in no need of anyone, if you appreciative it is for your own good.
On the other hand, there are those who think God is ,audhubillah for me saying this, evil, thinking there is a real evil in his creation, real evil is only in movies and books. And in history it comes from humans, Hitler is regarded as evil, when he was actually of Jewish descent and there were Jews with in the Nazi army, not saying innocent people did not die in the Holocaust, but saying evil was engineered, so too it was with 9-11, or whenever people claimed evil was real, like the tsunamis, earthquakes and floods and hurricanes, thank the corrupt America for those with their weather weapons.
You got an one track mind, due to your infant teachings about Church and Catholicism, which you use as your weapon whenever some one gets close to uncovering your true identity.
What do you think of the following verse then...
(573)There is no god except the one god.
Don't think you know the Quran better than a native, and someone with a PHD, and last but not least verifiably a messenger of God, Dr. Khalifa.
Everything comes from God.
To God belongs all praise, the Lord of the heavens, the Lord of the earth, the Lord of the universe.
While you are busy with your hierarchies, don't forget the dark horse.
And not to forget the third exclamation waged against God, that He is ,audhubillah for saying this, a liar. The Muhammadans, ask questions such as, "can God tell a lie?" or "is Satan's knowledge greater than Muhammad's?" You know things by these question, God exposed their corruption of the Quran, and even though they will go to the resurrection and say God is a liar, due to not realising the Quran was changed but God did not do anything, and his words there is no doubt, were proven wrong. Is corruption eternal, they have been exposed. And it has backfired upon them.
You Abdun Nur, are a devil. I chose my words carefully in case it backfires on me, but for saying the Quran actually implies there is no god, it just B.S. Don't forget the dark horse... as you quest for a hierarchy for the white man?s sake!
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Salaam asubmitter,
in your religious verve you have committed a second Islamic crime, besides your first accountable crimes which you again repeat, of accusing falsely, slander and malicious lies, that of being a racist, you have so many character flaws its a good thing you can hide under the facade of a religious fanatic, I hope you escape the deep scars you seem to suffer and attempt to inflict upon those around you, I suspect you make those around you suffer, with such hatred within a person as you display its verging on a medical condition.
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What do you think of the following verse then...
(573)There is no god except the one god.
Explain the above, Mister B.S-tter, Abdun Nur, don't talk me down, like a white mama.
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Please stay away from personal remarks/abuse and discuss the issue. Consider this a warning. Thanks.
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Spit your webs somewhere else!
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Salaam asubmitter,
again you make racist comments, I'll explain to you how reason works, you present evidence and a logical argument, to counter or support the views of others, to use personal insults, attacks of slander and lies to attempt to convince others your views are better, will not work. Reason is the only tool that can be applied. However when you abandon reason for non-sense it is a difficult task to re-establish credibility in a reasoned debate on any topic.
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What do you think of the following verse then...
(573)There is no god except the one god.
Explain the above, I got a bit carried away with previous post, too much editing, I should have left it alone, but when I checked it I started adding things, unnecessary things to it. We don't have to play to your liking all the time, remember we only use the same tools they used to use on us, give them a taste of their own medicine! You think white people are superior to the rest, when we know everything comes from God, when in the afterlife you are totally deprived of water, then you will realise all your ideas and inventions and thoughts were cursed not blessed, because they were influenced by the devil in order to find the better and worse, rather than the good and bad. Only those devoted absolutely to God alone will be saved.
This thread is far too long, and energy consuming, for such a B.S argument.
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So who's funding ya? you don't seem to earning a living, and your prompt responses suggest you are an agent.
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Like I thought you don't have answer, don't mind me saying this, but there is no in or out, you go round if you're Muslim, you do not need the Pope to absolve your sins those blasphemous thoughts of yours, Abdun Nur, but you cannot see beyond and above the Catholicism, which you distaste and do not admire. In the words of Jesus, for only God is good, God is the Light of the heavens and the earth, al Nur, God is the source of goodness, al-Rauf, God is the Truth, al Haq. If you do not wish to use the term God to define Allah, then you saying there is an evil in His creation, because everything comes from God. And if you try to use this BS that Allah means the one that is not God, again, we will return to the same thought previously, which you look to your colleagues to support you, explain the verse which reads,' there is no god except the one god' (573).
You can submit, or turn arrogant
You are a submitter, or a warrior
The straight path, or the crooked path
Peace or War
Love or Hatred
Light or Darkness
Good or evil
One God or many gods
Whole and unified or secular and divided
Reality or fiction
Soulful or soulless
Purified or uncleanWhat do you think of the following verse then...
(573)There is no god except the one god.
Don't think you know the Quran better than a native, and someone with a PHD, and last but not least verifiably a messenger of God, Dr. Khalifa.!
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In the game of chess they think the white are superior and the dark inferior, they create clauses of superiority, demeaning the actions of other cultures and people, claiming they are more superior, then there is the transparant, the invisible beings which side they are on, behind the white is 666, and the experiment of misery, behind the dark horse is 11/11, four ones, four aces, the fourth dimension, the Do No, the space time and atomic structure, the all three. the triangle with 3 triangles inside. the tetrahedron, the triangular pyramid, the quest of happiness. The line in between is the fifth, the five fingers, the five pillars of Islam, making circumcision questionable, as Islam only has five pillars, who knows, there are those who question whether it is an innovation, or whether it was part of the test instructed on Abraham. They chopped many parts of the Bible, like when it states Hagar was found with a well in the desert, but does not show the miracle behind it nor show Ishmael was Abraham's first son, so how can Christian claim the sacrifice was for the Children of Israel and Jesus was the lamb, because he came from the Children of Israel, and it was fulfillment? They are astray as firstly they argue God can advocate sin through Abraham's dream, that money is more powerful than God, that gold is more precious than water, that evil is real, with the crucifixion of Jesus. Continuously scaring people with illusions of evil, in novels and movies, to use propaganda to make them steeple or terrorist. To work through evil, and to argue people can find first cause and to believe in WAR. Satan has no power over those who devote to God alone, he only has power over those who choose him as a master and a lord, as the Quran teaches.
Those who purify themselves , those who are unclean
Those who submit, those who turn arrogant
Those who believe in one God, those who believe in many gods
Those who recognise an intelligent design, those who attempt to create an order of pyramids of those who sell their souls
The tetrahedron or the Trinity
The reverence or the blasphemy
Right or wrong
Truth or falsehood
Good or evil
Light or darkness
Water or gold
Reality or fiction
Whole and unified or secular and divided
Kindness or money
Charity or usury
Innocence or corruptionJust because you took the white pieces doesn't mean you have any advantage, other than to go first, and then we see what you do and what you are capable of, and what you cannot deny as a result of. Like the magicians who threw first, and thought they would be paid, but when Moses' staff swallowed what they produced an illusion of, they fell prostrate and believed in the Lord of Aaron and Moses
Just as they pretend in this world, with their illusions, through gold and fiction, so also in reality those who are close to God attain ranks, The dark horse is part of the Kingdom of God, not part of the Masonic New World Order.
11/11 or 666
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You haven't directly answered that question yet, actually... And I have been following this thread, we all thought you were some atheist, that's what interest us, but it turned out you had some other BS. And I would like you, if you don't mind to explain it again, if you have really.
What do you think of the following verse then...
(573)There is no god except the one god.
Don't think you know the Quran better than a native speaker of Arabic, and someone with a Ph.D, and last but not least verifiably a messenger of God, Dr. Khalifa.
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Like I said I have been following this thread, what interested me was the atheistic thread title, but realisign you have innovated some new BS, I would like finally conclude, will you provide an answer to the following
What do you think of the following verse then...
(572)There is no god except the one god.
Okay you can't explain from what I gathered so far from the thread, you think Allah implies or means there is no god, or the one who is not god, or al - the, alazi - that which is, lah - god. But you turn round and say allah al la alazi lah, the not that which is god. Which is quite innovative, and implies you are Satan. Because from the above verse it is clear God, Allah, says in the Quran in reference to the Trinity, there is no god except the one god. This verse uses lah twice one to say no god and the other to say the god.
Firstly you are innovating secondly you are astray, thirdly you gain wrath for trying to attribute to God a lie.
You are Satan! Servant of the light (skin) i.e white race.
Just as the Nazi the Ashkenazi Jews, the hypocrites, thought of stealing one of the most important symbols in the world from the Hind, and give to their Racist idealogue, due to their evil and Satanic influence, now they take the name of the Lord, Great and Glorious, and try and give it to atheism.
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Salaam asubmitter,
it is adequately explained within the thread, if you really wanted to understand correctly you are free to read more on the topic on my website, but I realise you are not really interested in what I'm explaining, you just want to be noticed, I haven't the time or interest to exchange posts with a fool.
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Abdun Nur's position is very clear. The wording may be confusing and indicate innovation but it is not the case. God as an entity separate from the universe and overseeing it does not exist. Rather the universe is contained within the creator, there is no method to distinguish the act of the creator from any phenomenon of the universe. Thus people say that "God does not exist because there is no proof of his existence" but these people are looking for apples in a basket of oranges. They would find their search more fruitful if they looked around at all the oranges in the basket and realised that they exist.
Indeed, calling God a mere God (as opposed to THE *) does absolutely no justice to the creator's magnitude;
573 - He is the First and the Last, the Evident and the Immanent and He has full knowledge of all things.
2262 - That is because Allah - He is the Reality; and those besides Him whom they invoke,- they are but vain Falsehood verily Allah is He, Most High, Most Great.Indeed, the creator is the ONLY thing in existence.
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Salaam asubmitter,
it is adequately explained within the thread, if you really wanted to understand correctly you are free to read more on the topic on my website, but I realise you are not really interested in what I'm explaining, you just want to be noticed, I haven't the time or interest to exchange posts with a fool.
You're the fool Abdun Nur, with your old Satanist trick, to know yourself is to know your enemy. I'm not the starting a discussion titled 'there is no God' on a Muslim forum. Joke!
You want me to scroll through 14 pages, searching for the gem to your wisdom, when you lack both wisdom and truth, instead use false atheistic understanding and attribute them to Islam, just as the Nazis did with the Hindu symbol, known as the swastika. If you have any faith in your words, why not re-iterate them, you are only afraid to be laughed at, which is what would happen.
And you OPF do not attribute to God lies, and fabrications, it is false to attribute to God lies, when you make false admissions and interpretations. You wanna emphasise physics, the solid reality, the action, when there is the will and the thought.
For the truth is God has three attributes, The Omniscient, The Omnipotent and the Omnipresent, which are manifest in all aspects of creation. If you wish to emphasise like Abdun Nur physics, it is only one of three sciences, if you wish to believe in what you see, it is one of the arts, but where most are stumped between life and death, they forget the eternal, and they forget the Reckoning. The knowledge of everything, the power of nothing, the wisdom of the eternal. But most Westerners are stuck between the all about life of the Old Testament and the death of the New Testament, and disregard and are ignorant concerning the Final Testament. Faith in prophecies, belief in miracles, and devotion to mathematics.
You were laughed at back then, and you will be laughed at again!