Women's Singing and Qur'an Recitation in Public
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Egypt Women reciting Quran in spotlight
Egypt's women have already made inroads into several one-time domains of men. But a suggestion to allow women to recite Islam's holy book the Quran in public has triggered sharp differences among Muslim clerics in this country recently swept by a wave of Islamism.
"Such calls echo a Western agenda," said Mohammad Al Barri, a cleric at Al Azhar, Sunni Islam's influential seat of learning. "There is no clear text in the Quran or the Prophet Mohammad's sunna that women recited the Holy Quran in front of men. Should this happen, there would be a big sedition, which we should avoid by all means," Al Barri told a seminar at the Egyptian Press Syndicate this week.
More than two years ago, Egypt appointed its first women judges. However, a vigorous campaign to empower women, led by Mubarak's wife, has faced stiff opposition from Muslim fundamentalists, say observers.
"The only place where women can read the Holy Quran is in the presence of other women," Al Barri, the Al Azhar scholar, said. "Letting a woman read in front of men would tempt them, thereby earning her and them God's wrath instead of His contentment."
Official ceremonies are usually opened with verses from the Quran, which are always recited by male shaikhs.
Likewise, Egypt's Muslims usually hire male reciters to read from the Holy Quran in the presence of male mourners in memory of their departed relatives. Never have women reciters been seen doing this.
"Women should have the right to recite the Holy Quran in public," said Souad Saleh, a well-known woman Muslim preacher. She told the same seminar that women's voices are not enticing and as such should not be suppressed.
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Oh no, sister, I showed a male dancing -- only for educational purposes and in order to make a point. http//img689.imageshack.us/img689/1633/engellieb.gif
My apologies, I should have added a warning that the video contains many haram things, such as music, dancing, showing awrah etc., so that those among us who are weak can avoid looking at it and falling into sin.
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Look, Tarkan is a shameless guy, he even publicly makes fun of the fact that he causes great fitnah. http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-018.gif Watch this at your own risk!
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I think Tarkan was the 2nd Turkish singer I listened to (the first being Mustafa Sandal).
Isn't Tarkan gay? Or kind of gay-ish? I dunno, I don't find him attractive. That's just me though....
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Peace all!
My classmates told me that a woman cannot sing in public because 'in the Quran it says that in the hereafter she will have a hook going through her mouth'. One of them is having a shisha party with a bellydancer shaking her ass.
Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?
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Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?
Because groups of people from all walks of life do irrational things.
Better question is why does this surprise you?
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Why would some sects of Islam find any justification for banning something as beautiful and enjoyable as singing?
Well when one tries to learn about something and it changes all the time it is quite difficult to know what is true and false.
Irrational banning has done by many religious institutions, and it is not exclusive to some sects of Islam. I can mention some, but there will be no point. I'd rather focus on the good and not the bad, from other religions. Don't start reading with any pre-conceived views, or desire to criticise/find any flaws. Use open-minded and logical approach, then you're bound to discover the truth.
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Irrational banning has done by many religious institutions, and it is not exclusive to some sects of Islam. I can mention some, but there will be no point. I'd rather focus on the good and not the bad, from other religions. Don't start reading with any pre-conceived views, or desire to criticise/find any flaws. Use open-minded and logical approach, then you're bound to discover the truth.
Snap! bravo
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Peace all!
My classmates told me that a woman cannot sing in public because 'in the Quran it says that in the hereafter she will have a hook going through her mouth'. One of them is having a shisha party with a bellydancer shaking her ass.
Hahaha!! So logical. o )
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There are men who would get turned on by hearing a female read the Quran? S
o Oh my. That's a scary thought. Still, clearly there is a belief getting about that men will be turned on by anything, hence everything () must be banned/covered up and that further to that, once this chain of events gets started, that the poor things have no self control. Know what I think about that? yeah
Men have a lot more control than some scholars (and hadith writers) seem to think. In the west women wear quite revealing clothing, work with men, drink and socialise with men and if the above were true it would be untenable. Yet somehow women here manage not to get raped everyday. Strange that...
I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!
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Oh my. That's a scary thought. Still, clearly there is a belief getting about that men will be turned on by anything, hence everything () must be banned/covered up and that further to that, once this chain of events gets started, that the poor things have no self control. Know what I think about that? yeah
Men have a lot more control than some scholars (and hadith writers) seem to think. In the west women wear quite revealing clothing, work with men, drink and socialise with men and if the above were true it would be untenable. Yet somehow women here manage not to get raped everyday. Strange that...
I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!
Ahh but you didn't know whether a man might not be nearby who would have been turned into a lustful raving rapist by your voice.
However ... I am sure he was happy you were doing the dishes ) -
I was told/advised to stop singing one day. I was in a small room with no windows to the outside (no, it wasn't prison, but thanks for asking ) ) so who could have heard aside from the person who told me I shouldn't sing...a mahram. For flips sake!!! Let a girl enjoy doing the dishes!!!
you sure that was because you were a woman? Maybe it is the singing in itself >D
When I sing birds drop out the sky and small children start to cry....