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Why doesn't al-Fatiha have "Say" before it?

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    MesMorial
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    I was wondering because I am in a debate going well but I am thinking of this. It talks from the perspective of worshippers and not Allah (swt).

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      MesMorial
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      No matter I found the answer.

      "And certainly We have given you seven of the oft-repeated (verses) and the grand Quran."

      Qur'an 1587

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        I believe , because we're supposed to read the Faiha everytime we study the quran, everyday
        Sirat mustaqueem is the Quran

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          I was wondering because I am in a debate going well but I am thinking of this. It talks from the perspective of worshippers and not Allah (swt).

          Salaam.

          I'd say Al-Fatiha does not have it because we are suppose to say it in the prayer and it's part of us, monotheism is already installed inside our DNA, this is just what I think, God knows Best.

          Throughout The Qur'an, we see God saying to the messenger SAY and then tells him what to say. I'd say He also tells us what to say. To say the exact sentence. God knows Best.

          Peace.

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            Shumali
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            It is in saying Bismillah, where it is implied "I start" with the name of God, the most merciful, and the most beneficient.

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              unknownuser
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              I am not sure if this is a fact, perhaps people like Wakas would know. I think I read somewere in the past that" say " is not in the actual original Quran, I think it has been aded by the people who interpreted it.

              Thanks

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                SarahY
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                MesMorial is asking why it doesn't say "say". why should it?

                The issue about 7 oft repeated.. its kinda debated about what the 7 is... http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=11663.30

                Pel, it doesn't say "say" MesMorial seems to be asking why it doesn't?

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                  Yes Sarah, I know. I was just teling him that were it does say say, that its been put there by people who interpreted the Quran, not by God in the original. So its not meant to say anywere.

                  Thanks

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                    Yes Sarah, I know. I was just teling him that were it does say say, that its been put there by people who interpreted the Quran, not by God in the original. So its not meant to say anywere.

                    Thanks

                    Source?

                    I don't believe this is true.

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                      Now I am realy confused, I thought I new something. I have gone through an atheist stage in my life and I am preaty sure that thats what I read in one of their books. Like you say, maybe its not true. I think that we need someone who knows for certain to post.

                      Thanks

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                        Wakas
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                        I have not heard of "say" (Arabic qul) being added to The Quran script before but maybe. You'd either have to check the earliest Quran scripts with a "say" (qul) in them, or any evidence from earliest traditional accounts.

                        Also, I'm not sure I'd believe what you read in an Atheist book, if it is anti-Quran etc.

                        All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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