Equality of mens.
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Stone, i don't know why you associate "killed in the cause of GOD" and "killing and go in war" (your original question).
I just want to open up your eyes to the possibility of getting "killed in the cause of GOD" while at the same time, NOT trying (not even intending) to "kill" anyone with just one example out of so many http//rachelcorriefoundation.org/
Yes, by being CHARITABLE. And yes, by FIGHTING AGAINST OPPRESSION.
Peace bro san,
Associate kill in cause of God with killed in cause of God...I dont know why.
Maybe because I did not have idea in my had how you can die on Allah way and that not be war.So I made link between this two things.Example you give me with this link help me a little to realize that it is possible ti die on Gods way and that is not necessarily in war. -
Peace Stone,
Maybe an example will demonstrate what some here have been trying to say regarding 3169.
If an old person was struggling to cross the road and you help them. While doing this, a car hits and kills you.
In this case, you were serving God by assisting someone. Would you not qualify in terms of 3169?
Imraan
Peace to you,I understand your example.
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Just one my conclusion,and you give me proof if I am wrong.
God loves more people who died on his way.
It way is not just war,it is also charitable,forgiving...
Someone can die in way of way that it is not in battle.
But...it can be way in battle and war.Just tell me,when Muhamed start with his calling in islam,first it was calling without war,and after?Does someone kill ever somebody in the name of Allah...ever?
And who suffer after?Sister,women,daughter of that unbeliever who did not recognize Gods prophet?
God sad"You must love more me than your sister,your wife,your father".I must tell you sincerely,I love more my kids my,mother and sisters than God.And because of that,God loves more other people than me.I am not good muslim in his eyes,I could not kill never,never in his name.Mohamed could,but I am not such a good believer...
In fact he could have sex with kids,but we are not all perfect... -
Just one my conclusion,and you give me proof if I am wrong.
God loves more people who died on his way.
It way is not just war,it is also charitable,forgiving...
Someone can die in way of way that it is not in battle.
But...it can be way in battle and war.Just tell me,when Muhamed start with his calling in islam,first it was calling without war,and after?Does someone kill ever somebody in the name of Allah...ever?
And who suffer after?Sister,women,daughter of that unbeliever who did not recognize Gods prophet?
God sad"You must love more me than your sister,your wife,your father".I must tell you sincerely,I love more my kids my,mother and sisters than God.And because of that,God loves more other people than me.I am not good muslim in his eyes,I could not kill never,never in his name.Mohamed could,but I am not such a good believer...
In fact he could have sex with kids,but we are not all perfect...Vicious post
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Maybe vicious to you,but did I wrote any lie?
Is to kill someone in the name of Allah part of jihad or it is not?
I dont wont to be a liar to say that it is not true,when it is true?
Can someone say that it is not a true?
What is one of the comand acording ti Tora?
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I never sad anything about terorism suicide an killing innocent people.I know that it is not jihad.
I say about killing in general,what hapens,acording the Quran.When you kill some pagan,in the name of God for example.
And that someone who do such a thing is better in God eyes than someone who is afraid of battle.
And that are we are not equal in eyes of God with brave believers ready to die.It is what it writes in Quran,dont tell me it is not a true. -
I never sad anything about terorism suicide an killing innocent people.I know that it is not jihad.
I say about killing in general,what hapens,acording the Quran.When you kill some pagan,in the name of God for example.
And that someone who do such a thing is better in God eyes than someone who is afraid of battle.
And that are we are not equal in eyes of God with brave believers ready to die.It is what it writes in Quran,dont tell me it is not a true.I never sad anything about terorism suicide an killing innocent people.I know that it is not jihad.
Jihad is not war or battle, it means struggle, for example, when u study to pass your exam and study hard, that is Jihad, it comes from the word Jouhd, meaning your inner force.I say about killing in general,what hapens,acording the Quran.When you kill some pagan,in the name of God for example.
Why would u kill an inocent pagan who is not trying to kill u ? if u do, the quran is clear, U burn in HellAnd that someone who do such a thing is better in God eyes than someone who is afraid of battle.
What battle ? to defend your family and your dignity ? do u believe that the one who stand up for his right is better or the one who is passif, gave up his right ? ask Bob Marley, he'll answer to that.And that are we are not equal in eyes of God with brave believers ready to die.It is what it writes in Quran,dont tell me it is not a true.
Jahadou fi sabil allah , doesn't mean go for battle, but they struggle in the way of allah, what is the way of allah ? apply his laws of nature on yourself, that is the way of allah, if u die that way, let's say u get sick and died while u uphold the way of nature , than u dies in the way of allah, u don(t need a spear to pearce your heart to die in the way of allah, all those who uphold rightesouness they dies in the way of allah -
I never sad anything about terorism suicide an killing innocent people.I know that it is not jihad.
I say about killing in general,what hapens,acording the Quran.When you kill some pagan,in the name of God for example.
And that someone who do such a thing is better in God eyes than someone who is afraid of battle.
And that are we are not equal in eyes of God with brave believers ready to die.It is what it writes in Quran,dont tell me it is not a true.I think lox box answered you question, you cannot kill any pagan merely because he don?t believe in God you can only kill him if he attack you, it means you can only kill him in self defense or to protect weak peoples who asked your help.
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Read this verse
2190 (Asad) AND fight in God's cause against those who wage war against you, but do not commit aggression-for, verily, God does not love aggressors.
it can be problematic if you pick out a verse and try to put an inference without recognising core concepts in The Quran.
IF you are in a war and you fled then of course the one who is fighting for justice is better than the one who does not fight.
it's not all about bravery or dying it's about standing up to justice no one said it's easy and reread 2190 starting wars/fights/aggressions is detested.
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I never sad anything about terorism suicide an killing innocent people.I know that it is not jihad.
I say about killing in general,what hapens,acording the Quran.When you kill some pagan,in the name of God for example.
And that someone who do such a thing is better in God eyes than someone who is afraid of battle.
And that are we are not equal in eyes of God with brave believers ready to die.It is what it writes in Quran,dont tell me it is not a true.To kill someone in the name of the creator is to kill someone in the name of absolute justice. Someone who does so is clearly better than someone who will merely stand back and let oppression take hold.
However to kill someone in the name of something you have named yourself is not the same thing, that is known as "terrorism"/"collateral damage".
Anyway, life is not about the preservation of any individual ego structure, it's about the quality of experience that all living entities have. To die in the way of the creator is merely to acknowledge that your ego is nothing and never was anything to begin with. It is the ultimate submission, the ultimate acknowledgement of one's true eternal self.
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It is ridiculous to relate the following of the Prophet with violence. Followers of the Prophet experienced violence against them for a long time. So it was not the Prophet who needed or wanted violence in order to gain adepts. They came to him without bieng pushed, quite the opposite, and of their own will in spite of tremendous odds. Violence was on the part of those who opposed the Prohphet with the intent of preventing people following what he was ordered by God to transmit.
Salaam