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Qur'an-Alone Muslims Should Unite

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    BornAgain
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    Salaam,

    How does someone's personal connection with God actually have to do with us being united or not? Some people feel closer to God by praying ritually 5 times, others 3 times, others with meditation, others by doing social works, etc. Seriously, there are many ways to feel the presence of God. We have our own unique way to accomplish that. No one is the same.

    Unity is not about maintaining the same physical appearance, nor is it about behaving the same way like robots. Otherwise God would create us the same, and not as it is in 4913. For me, unity is about striving for the same goals, despite our differences. I believe we should focus on what we have in common, rather than on what we differ in. Let us "communicate" to God on our ways, rather than feeling insecure that the others do not do it the same way as we do.

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      salgan
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      Peace MesMorial and all

      If we have quick look at history we would find that prayer in it self has not united any body.Also just because some body prays like you does not mean they think or act as you.

      If we truly want to unite then following a religion has to be sacrificed as all religions propagate disunity.

      Peace Salim
      live long and prosper
      .

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        san
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        please call me back later when you've added "h", "m", and "a" to "unity".

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          loxbox13
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          Salaam,

          How does someone's personal connection with God actually have to do with us being united or not? Some people feel closer to God by praying ritually 5 times, others 3 times, others with meditation, others by doing social works, etc. Seriously, there are many ways to feel the presence of God. We have our own unique way to accomplish that. No one is the same.

          Unity is not about maintaining the same physical appearance, nor is it about behaving the same way like robots. Otherwise God would create us the same, and not as it is in 4913. For me, unity is about striving for the same goals, despite our differences. I believe we should focus on what we have in common, rather than on what we differ in. Let us "communicate" to God on our ways, rather than feeling insecure that the others do not do it the same way as we do.

          I like what u said , Wise thinking, thank u

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            Leyna
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            Well said, BornAgain, I fully agree. peace

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              Wakas
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              Ironically, the verses that are commonly taken to mean face a certain direction during prayer , actually tell us what to unite on.

              And to each is a direction/wijh that he will take so you shall race towards good deeds. Wherever you may be, God will bring you all together. God is capable of all things.

              It could not be more simple.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                mmkhan
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                Salaamun all,

                Please take a look at these aayaats, inshaAllah it may help us understand about unity.

                548

                548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what Allah has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure; and if Allah had willed, He would have made you all one nation, but He tests you with what He has given you; so strive to do good. To Allah you will return all of you, and He will inform you regarding that in which you dispute.

                Still Allah said

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                3103 And hold firmly to the rope of Allah, all of you, and do not be separated. And remember the blessing of Allah upon you when you were enemies and He united your hearts. Then you became, with His blessing, brothers; and you were on the edge of a pit of fire and He saved you from it; it is thus that God clarifies for you His signs that you may be guided.

                Then He said

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                3104 And let there be a nation from among you who calls towards goodness, and orders kindness, and prohibits vice. And these are the successful ones.

                Then,

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                3105 And do not be like those who separated and differed after the clarity had come to them. And for them is a painful retribution.

                May Allah guide us all towards the Truth and make us the followers of His clear aayaats.
                Mohammed M. Khan

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                  Faithful-Jinn
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                  This topic title should read 'All Muslims Should Unite'

                  No sectarianism please

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                    Bigmo
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                    I agree with Imraan.

                    What i think is happening is that the Quranist persuasion is slowly becoming mainstream among the cultural and intellectual elite. Which is what most , actually all, of the people in this forum are. As that happens many Quranist who come from a Sunni or Shgia background will see no need to change their mode of prayer as they are comfortable with it. This is actually normal and will probably be the majority view among Quranist in the future. There are three type of Quranist (as there were three type of Mutazilites in the past)

                    1. only accept the authority of the Quran
                    2. Accept the authority of the Quran plus the rituals (practiced sunnah) but not hadith
                    3. Accept the authority of the Quran, the ritual Sunnah and some hadiths that meets certain criteria ( does not contradict Quran or multiple sources etc)

                    You can't be a Quranist if you accept all Sunni or Shia hadith.

                    Unity is when when we accept all three EQUALLY. That can't be done unless we do not accept any BINDING authority accept the one source we all agree with and thats the Quran. We all have our different comfort zones and we all have our own way of interacting with the larger muslim community like praying in mosques and going to haj etc. This is actually all good for us since it creates diversity.

                    But,

                    if we make any source other than the Quran as binding than we really can't say we are Quranist as that defeats the whole purpose. It also breaks away the unity.

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                      Wakas
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                      From my studies of The Quran, we should be united on our bond with God, racing towards good deeds, and bringing betterment.

                      For me, the discussions I have on this forum, are purely academic, I am not interested in what others believe and/or practice, unless it is detrimental to me. All I wish to do is help bring about a better understanding of the message.

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        mmkhan
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                        Salaam Bigmo,

                        if we make any source other than the Quran as binding than we really can't say we are Quranist as that defeats the whole purpose. It also breaks away the unity.

                        We don't have to...

                        2278

                        2278 And strive in the cause of Allah its truly deserved striving. He is the One who has chosen you, and He has made no hardship for you in the system, the creed of your father Abraham; He is the One who named you Muslims from before and in this. So let the messenger be witness over you and you be witness over the people. So hold the bond and contribute towards purification and hold tight to Allah, He is your patron. What an excellent Patron, and what an excellent Supporter.

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