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What is your understanding of these messages?

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    loxbox13
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    All ican say you and people like you grown up in brain washing system to slave human abusing name of God and Quran hence you kiss black stone and believe God reside in that black building and radiate light. You are done and you are fossil, all your brain is covered and locked with life time false h learning and can not understand clear and crystal meaning of word of Ayah, you reject even Sunnis burhan.com translation and shia scholars or may write to them to change to your own desire to save your false works for years . such truth can end your empire of bloodshed based on 2 fabricated verses in chapter 9

    You are fighting to God not me and Rashad which all is to bring your attention to reality because you do not care about billion naive and oppressed people and all you are doing is to keep your position and stand like god and feed innocent and uninformed masses toward your own desires and understanding.

    You are locked badly into your own shell of thinking which reject clear meaning of Ayah and try to explain it when you have no choice to use those words to explain it which i colored for you but seem you are deaf and blind and only thing is your false Shahada and radiating light form stone and mud .
    Complete your home page by adding a picture of yours like this one.
    http//ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/42553621_mashaalap416.jpg
    I refuge into God avoiding Satan

    I was reading the conversation between u and mazhar, this is the probleme and what i can't understand, Mazhar was Talking with verses, u were talking with codes, and when he prouved to u that rashad khalifa is SATAN himself disguised in a sheep skin.
    Rashad wanted to be a messenger or a prophet, he succeded for a years, most false prophets dies a year after they claim the prophecy and they die with the curse they invoke the most

    a false prophet in the 17 century was talking about colera, between him and those who don't believe in him, a year later he dies with cholera

    Rashad khalifa was talking in every video about if peophet mohamed added anything to the revelation, god would have cutt of his artery, well, guess what, a year later his artery was cutt off
    why is that ? prophet mohamed when he came, he left a muslim ouma, when jesus came he left all bani israel muslims, when dabid and solomon came, prosperity came, when moses came, he saved a nation from tyrany,
    what did khalifa do ? create a sect.
    u can't see it because you're inside of it
    The man in the picture is kissing the blak stone, it represents code19 for him

    PLEASE CAN U SHOW ME IN THE QURAN ANY MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT ? i see only messengers of god , only

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      Bahman
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      this is the probleme and what i can't understand, Mazhar was Talking with verses, u were talking with codes,

      Are you ok? you are not on any medication or drug. Where I talk code iam asking just simply to translate the verse and he like you his heart is beating with his idol not God and avoiding to insert any word .

      PLEASE CAN U SHOW ME IN THE QURAN ANY MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT ? i see only messengers of god , only

      I notice you have not study Quran carefully 381
      GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."
      Here is my discovery for his name merges into verse digits
      and here is his solid proof for his claim when no human can create same another table without be inspired by God.
      Please do little search and find all your question which has been answered her many times saving time for everybody and do rush to post unless you be sure of your saying 1736 )

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        unknownuser
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        Are you ok? you are not on any medication or drug. Where I talk code iam asking just simply to translate the verse and he like you his heart is beating with his idol not God and avoiding to insert any word .

        I notice you have not study Quran carefully 381
        GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."
        Here is my discovery for his name merges into verse digits
        and here is his solid proof for his claim when no human can create same another table without be inspired by God.
        Please do little search and find all your question which has been answered her many times saving time for everybody and do rush to post unless you be sure of your saying 1736 &nbsp

        Rashad
        =505
        505381=19x26599

        Not divisible by 7 and let's apply it to...

        (the ignorant) (Bahman)

        381 130315301050 254050 = 19 x 20059490279002644950

        In your discovery word nineteen (and you must help him) has wrong value ?

        381
        617001600700 130305 4010500100 1305021050 30401 11400104002040 4050 204002 6820405 500403112040
        2006063040904100 30401 40702040 304006405050 25 63040053090200505 100130 1110020020040040
        6160070040040 703010700302040 19020010 10013061110020020050110013080130054616 150140702040 4050 130300541050
        505

        Therefore it's all about you ?

        381

        381
        617001600700 130305 4010500100 1305021050 30401 11400104002040 4050 204002 6820405 500403112040
        2006063040904100 30401 40702040 304006405050 25 6304005090200505 100130 1110020020040040
        6160070040040 703010700302040 19020010 10013061110020020050110013080130054616 150140702040 4050 130300541050
        130315301050 254050
        = 19 x ?!

        miracle verifier http//markknowsnothing.com/cgi-bin/calculator.php

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          Mazhar
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          (the ignorant) (Bahman)

          Those who are emotionally obsessed resulting in placing a shackle around intellect that makes them blind to see and perceive simple facts, emotions are strong to an extent that they do not permit to get into their minds what has been explained in simple and straight manner.

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            mmkhan
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            Salaam all,

            GOD took a covenant from the prophets, saying, "I will give you the scripture and wisdom. Afterwards, a messenger will come to confirm all existing scriptures. You shall believe in him and support him." He said, "Do you agree with this, and pledge to fulfill this covenant?" They said, "We agree." He said, "You have thus borne witness, and I bear witness along with you."

            Well... thanks for clearing it 381

            381

            381 And when Allah took a covenant from the prophets For what I have given you of the Book and wisdom, then a messenger will come to you authenticating what is with you. You will believe in him and support him. He said Do you testify, and agree to this burden? They said We testify. He said Then bear witness, and I am with you bearing witness.

            Covenant was taken by Allah from The Prophets, saying that when a messenger will come TO YOU...

            It was at the time of The Prophets, not after 1400 years. Right?

            May Allah guide us all towards the truth. pr
            Mohammed M. Khan

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              Asana
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              Salam mmkhan

              It was at the time of The Prophets, not after 1400 years. Right? Covenant was taken by Allah from The Prophets, saying that when a messenger will come TO YOU...

              God took the descendant of Adam as witness to His Unity, how many years took you to come to this world? One billion, 2 or 3 or what?

              Please reflect on below verse

              Recall that your Lord summoned all the descendants of Adam, and had them bear witness for themselves "Am I not your Lord?" They all said, "Yes. We bear witness." Thus, you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection, "We were not aware of this."

              Asana

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                Bahman
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                (the ignorant) (Bahman)

                Any body name can be adjusted to have a multiple but who was inspired to reveal secret of Seven pairs. You,,your teachers, scholars, imams, shaikhs me . Of course accept that Hanifi scholar and you or anybody design such table then that is different.
                Go do your home work and find how Rashad`designed such table which no human can imitate itm by the way do not use band witch for nonsense
                Show readers where you are in this table, When i asked Mazhar he hide that his cult is second hand of idolization when is sub cul of sunnis how about you where is your staniding/ Pure Sunni or sub cult too.?

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                  Bahman
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                  Peace.

                  Salaam all,

                  Well... thanks for clearing it 381

                  381

                  381 And when Allah took a covenant from the prophets For what I have given you of the Book and wisdom, then a messenger will come to you authenticating what is with you. You will believe in him and support him. He said Do you testify, and agree to this burden? They said We testify. He said Then bear witness, and I am with you bearing witness.

                  Covenant was taken by Allah from The Prophets, saying that when a messenger will come TO YOU...

                  It was at the time of The Prophets, not after 1400 years. Right?

                  May Allah guide us all towards the truth. pr
                  Mohammed M. Khan

                  You mean God di not make this covenant with Prophet Mohammed. He was excluded?
                  and then how prophet could do authenticating.?
                  and how you can do authenticating even today when ORIGINAL WAS BURNT and there is such problem!!!
                  Peace

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                    Bahman
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                    Those who are emotionally obsessed resulting in placing a shackle around intellect that makes them blind to see and perceive simple facts, emotions are strong to an extent that they do not permit to get into their minds what has been explained in simple and straight manner.

                    A.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.

                    THE SIMPLE FACTS

                    Like the Quran itself, the Quran's mathematical coding ranges from the very simple, to the very complex. The Simple Facts are those observations that can be ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a calculator or a computer. The following facts do not require any tools to be verified, but please remember they all refer to the original Arabic text

                    1. The first verse (11),known as "Basmalah," consists of 19 letters.
                    2. The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is ..............19 x 6.
                    3. The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or ....19 x 334. Note that 6+3+4+6 =.......19.
                    4. The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19x6.
                    5. From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely ...............19 suras.
                    6. It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+...+26+27) is 342, or .............19 x 18.
                    7. This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = ........19 x 18.
                    8. The famous first revelation (961-5) consists of .......19 words.
                    9. This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters .19 x 4.
                    10. Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of .....................................................19 verses.
                    11. This first chronological sura is placed atop the last ..19 suras.
                    12. Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals .19 x 16.
                    13. The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of ............19 words.
                    14. The first verse of the last revelation (1101) consists of ................19 letters.
                    15. 14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (such as A.L.M. of 21), and prefix 29 suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29 = 57 = ......19 x 3.
                    16. The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+...+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or ................. 19 x 44.
                    17. Between the first initialed sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed sura (Sura 6 there are 38 un-initialed suras 19 x 2.
                    18. Between the first and last initialed sura there are ....19 sets of alternating "initialed" and "un-initialed" suras.
                    19. The Quran mentions 30 different numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50,000, & 100,000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.

                    This is a condensed summary of the Simple Facts.

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                      loxbox13
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                        mmkhan
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                        Salaam Asana,

                        Salam mmkhan

                        God took the descendant of Adam as witness to His Unity, how many years took you to come to this world? One billion, 2 or 3 or what?

                        Please reflect on below verse

                        Recall that your Lord summoned all the descendants of Adam, and had them bear witness for themselves "Am I not your Lord?" They all said, "Yes. We bear witness." Thus, you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection, "We were not aware of this."

                        Asana

                        What are saying???

                        7172 was giving us info about what has already happened but 381 talks about something going to happened that to at the time of Prophets.

                        Please take a close look before reacting negative. I don't want you to follow me, I am just trying to show you the correct path as I believe we all are brothers and sisters . As per my understanding, our thinking may differ, but Allah is there clear off wrongs form us, inshaAllah.

                        Look bro, am I going to lose anything if you don't accept the word of Allah or vice versa? No! We all have to answer for our own deeds. Ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance towards the correct path.

                        May Allah guide us all and open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
                        Mohammed M. Khan

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                          mmkhan
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                          Salaam Bahman,

                          Peace.You mean God di not make this covenant with Prophet Mohammed. He was excluded?

                          Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger will come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?

                          and then how prophet could do authenticating.?
                          and how you can do authenticating even today when ORIGINAL WAS BURNT and there is such problem!!!
                          Peace

                          That is not our responsibility brother, but Allah has already taken care of it. We will be questioned from what we have given. So, no worry... inshaAllah.

                          May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
                          Mohammed M. Khan

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                            Bahman
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                            Salaam Bahman,
                            Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger will come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?

                            That is not our responsibility brother, but Allah has already taken care of it. We will be questioned from what we have given. So, no worry... inshaAllah.

                            May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
                            Mohammed M. Khan

                            Peace
                            So have you ever study and search why Original was burnt?
                            or it has not been important for you?
                            Peace )

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                              Bahman
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                              Salaam Bahman,
                              Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger then (Afterward,Later ) a messengerwill come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?

                              Just insert your own translation

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                                Bahman
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                                seems this new member is not going with forum rules, this a English Topic. Please delete it

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                                  Bahman
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                                  Peace.
                                  A.L.R. These (letters) are the

                                  Peace everybody
                                  Now is 3 weeks and only accusation, Talking to you that know good Arabic, show you abilty and knowledge and guide me an ll and insert the word fits your understanding. PLEASE`just do your translation without any comment or footnote.
                                  Peace

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                                    Bahman
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                                    Rashad

                                    He is dead. do your translation.
                                    A.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.

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                                      Bahman
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                                      Mohammed M. Khan

                                      Do your translation please then we talk about 381
                                      A.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.

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                                        Bahman
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                                        I was reading

                                        do your translation please.
                                        A.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.

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                                          loxbox13
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                                          seems this new member is not going with forum rules, this a English Topic. Please delete it

                                          Yeah, i thaught u do speak arabic, sorry, this explanation very logic and makes perfect sense about moukataates. I will translate it to english, peace

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