What is your understanding of these messages?
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Peace.
Salaam all,
Well... thanks for clearing it 381
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381 And when Allah took a covenant from the prophets For what I have given you of the Book and wisdom, then a messenger will come to you authenticating what is with you. You will believe in him and support him. He said Do you testify, and agree to this burden? They said We testify. He said Then bear witness, and I am with you bearing witness.
Covenant was taken by Allah from The Prophets, saying that when a messenger will come TO YOU...
It was at the time of The Prophets, not after 1400 years. Right?
May Allah guide us all towards the truth. pr
Mohammed M. KhanYou mean God di not make this covenant with Prophet Mohammed. He was excluded?
and then how prophet could do authenticating.?
and how you can do authenticating even today when ORIGINAL WAS BURNT and there is such problem!!!
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Those who are emotionally obsessed resulting in placing a shackle around intellect that makes them blind to see and perceive simple facts, emotions are strong to an extent that they do not permit to get into their minds what has been explained in simple and straight manner.
A.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.
THE SIMPLE FACTS
Like the Quran itself, the Quran's mathematical coding ranges from the very simple, to the very complex. The Simple Facts are those observations that can be ascertained without using any tools. The complex facts require the assistance of a calculator or a computer. The following facts do not require any tools to be verified, but please remember they all refer to the original Arabic text
- The first verse (11),known as "Basmalah," consists of 19 letters.
- The Quran consists of 114 suras, which is ..............19 x 6.
- The total number of verses in the Quran is 6346, or ....19 x 334. Note that 6+3+4+6 =.......19.
- The Basmalah occurs 114 times, despite its conspicuous absence from Sura 9 (it occurs twice in Sura 27) & 114= 19x6.
- From the missing Basmalah of Sura 9 to the extra Basmalah of Sura 27, there are precisely ...............19 suras.
- It follows that the total of the sura numbers from 9 to 27 (9+10+11+12+...+26+27) is 342, or .............19 x 18.
- This total (342) also equals the number of words between the two Basmalahs of Sura 27, and 342 = ........19 x 18.
- The famous first revelation (961-5) consists of .......19 words.
- This 19-worded first revelation consists of 76 letters .19 x 4.
- Sura 96, first in the chronological sequence, consists of .....................................................19 verses.
- This first chronological sura is placed atop the last ..19 suras.
- Sura 96 consists of 304 Arabic letters, and 304 equals .19 x 16.
- The last revelation (Sura 110) consists of ............19 words.
- The first verse of the last revelation (1101) consists of ................19 letters.
- 14 different Arabic letters, form 14 different sets of "Quranic Initials" (such as A.L.M. of 21), and prefix 29 suras. These numbers add up to 14+14+29 = 57 = ......19 x 3.
- The total of the 29 sura numbers where the Quranic Initials occur is 2+3+7+...+50+68 = 822, and 822+14 (14 sets of initials) equals 836, or ................. 19 x 44.
- Between the first initialed sura (Sura 2) and the last initialed sura (Sura 6 there are 38 un-initialed suras 19 x 2.
- Between the first and last initialed sura there are ....19 sets of alternating "initialed" and "un-initialed" suras.
- The Quran mentions 30 different numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 19, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 99, 100, 200, 300, 1000, 2000, 3000, 5000, 50,000, & 100,000. The sum of these numbers is 162146, which equals 19x8534.
This is a condensed summary of the Simple Facts.
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Salaam Asana,
Salam mmkhan
God took the descendant of Adam as witness to His Unity, how many years took you to come to this world? One billion, 2 or 3 or what?
Please reflect on below verse
Recall that your Lord summoned all the descendants of Adam, and had them bear witness for themselves "Am I not your Lord?" They all said, "Yes. We bear witness." Thus, you cannot say on the Day of Resurrection, "We were not aware of this."
Asana
What are saying???
7172 was giving us info about what has already happened but 381 talks about something going to happened that to at the time of Prophets.
Please take a close look before reacting negative. I don't want you to follow me, I am just trying to show you the correct path as I believe we all are brothers and sisters . As per my understanding, our thinking may differ, but Allah is there clear off wrongs form us, inshaAllah.
Look bro, am I going to lose anything if you don't accept the word of Allah or vice versa? No! We all have to answer for our own deeds. Ask Allah for forgiveness and guidance towards the correct path.
May Allah guide us all and open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
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Salaam Bahman,
Peace.You mean God di not make this covenant with Prophet Mohammed. He was excluded?
Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger will come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?
and then how prophet could do authenticating.?
and how you can do authenticating even today when ORIGINAL WAS BURNT and there is such problem!!!
PeaceThat is not our responsibility brother, but Allah has already taken care of it. We will be questioned from what we have given. So, no worry... inshaAllah.
May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaam Bahman,
Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger will come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?That is not our responsibility brother, but Allah has already taken care of it. We will be questioned from what we have given. So, no worry... inshaAllah.
May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth. pr
Mohammed M. KhanPeace
So have you ever study and search why Original was burnt?
or it has not been important for you?
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Salaam Bahman,
Nope, if you look at 381 again, you may understand that covenant was taken from all Prophets including Prophet Mohammed and messenger then (Afterward,Later ) a messengerwill come in the same period of Prophet, then only a Prophet could able to help him and believe in him, isn't it?Just insert your own translation
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Peace.
A.L.R. These (letters) are thePeace everybody
Now is 3 weeks and only accusation, Talking to you that know good Arabic, show you abilty and knowledge and guide me an ll and insert the word fits your understanding. PLEASE`just do your translation without any comment or footnote.
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Any body name can be adjusted to have a multiple but who was inspired to reveal secret of Seven pairs. You,,your teachers, scholars, imams, shaikhs me . Of course accept that Hanifi scholar and you or anybody design such table then that is different.
Go do your home work and find how Rashad`designed such table which no human can imitate itm by the way do not use band witch for nonsenseThat table is STUPID and you are (the ignorant) !
5 130 315301050 1
87 130 315301050 2
89 130 315301050 3
92 130 315301050 4
112 130 315301050 5
55 130 315301050 6
39 130 315301050 7
88 130 315301050 8
113 130 315301050 9
51 130 315301050 10
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96 130 315301050 13
72 130 315301050 14
54 130 315301050 15
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50 130 315301050 17
69 130 315301050 18
44 130 315301050 19
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73 130 315301050 21
103 130 315301050 22
74 130 315301050 23
102 130 315301050 24
42 130 315301050 25
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85 130 315301050 29
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57 130 315301050 31
75 130 315301050 32
90 130 315301050 33
58 130 315301050 34
43 130 315301050 35
41 130 315301050 36
56 130 315301050 37
38 130 315301050 38
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95 130 315301050 47
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34 130 315301050 50
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23 130 315301050 53
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29 130 315301050 106
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22 130 315301050 112
20 130 315301050 113
21 130 315301050 114= 19 x ?!
Did you apologize remove other table where you mindlessly flipped digits to make your idol gv a multiple?
Rashad
=505
505381=19x26599Not divisible by 7 and let's apply it to...
(the ignorant) (Bahman)
381 130315301050 254050 = 19 x 20059490279002644950
In your discovery word nineteen (and you must help him) has wrong value ?
Lastly, no one knows the order of revelation especially the last chapter according to some was ch 110, while others last verse revealed was on Kalala inheritance 4176 while others say it was 53 This day, I have perfected your religion for you...
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Even though Rashad Khalifa's translation is correct and the one I use, I'm not using it this time for the sole purpose that nobody here can claim translation bias. So, I used Marmaduke Pickthall.
Marmaduke Pickhall Translation
Those who disbelieve among the People of the Scripture and the idolaters could not have left off (erring) till the clear proof came unto them,
A messenger from Allah, READING PURIFIED PAGES
Containing correct scriptures.
Nor were the People of the Scripture divided UNTIL AFTER the clear proof came unto them.
And they are ordered naught else than to serve Allah, keeping religion pure for Him, as men by nature upright, and to establish worship and to pay the poor-due. That is true religion.It is clear in these verses that the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, Muslims) did not dispute until AFTER the clear proof (of the Quran) was revealed to them. Since, Muhammad did not come with any miracles, we know the proof must refer to the Quranic initials and the math miracle. As well, 982 says it is a Messenger of GOD that is reading these now 'purified pages'. Now, you cannot purify something that is already pure. Therefore, the Quran was corrupted at some time after the death of Prophet Muhammad. Tarnished with the 2 false verses (9128-129). Since, there verse says 'purified pages', we know the false verses would have to be removed. Otherwise, it is still not pure. These verses are very clear. Furthermore, the Arabic word for 'Proof' (Bayyinah) is mentioned 19 times in the Quran.
Do you know what `Elleyyeen' is?
A numerically structured book.
To be witnessed by those close to Me.Peace
t is clear in these verses that the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, Muslims) did not dispute until AFTER the clear proof (of the
And We sent down the Book to thee for the express purpose that thou shouldst make clear to them those things in which they differ, and that it should be a guide and a mercy to those who believe. 1664
( What do u say to this verse? who received the book to show the things they differenciated in ? Mohamed or Khalifa ? this verse show that mohamed 's book is the book that show's what they differentiates a, and prouve khalifa as an imposter, trying to take the role of a prophet. don't u think so ? or u still don't believe it is the book that show the difference, as revealed to ptophet mohamed !!!
Since, Muhammad did not come with any miracles,
The quran isn't enaugh for u to say that mohamed came with a great miracle which is called the QURAN ? how come u say mohamed didn't come with any miracle? don't u know that the quran is a miracle book, or u can't see it ? ?we know the proof must refer to the Quranic initials and the math miracle.
This is your interpretation, and u can only prouve it as an evidence if u prouve from the quran that the letters and math miracle are in the quran, it has to be prouven from the quran, and not interpretation of a free mind. as u can say about the 1st sourah ever descended on the prophet, it has to be a sourah or verses that are telling him you are a messenger or WAKE UP AND WARN .As well, 982 says it is a Messenger of GOD that is reading these now 'purified pages'.
I agree with you , the quran is pure pages, the messenger of god was reading purified pages and not satanic pages. it is clearNow, you cannot purify something that is already pure.
Of course, the pure is pure, and god said he's gonna protect and preserve the quran since the verse of preserving the quran came down on his messenger, unless god failed and needed a human to save the face, god did preserve the quran because he said so.Therefore, the Quran was corrupted at some time after the death of Prophet Muhammad.
When ? prouve it ? and prouve it from the quran, not from the hadith, remember hadiths are satanic so don't follow them.Tarnished with the 2 false verses (9128-129).
if this is true, than bukhari is the messenger of god , because he warned of these two verses and wanted to purify them, he couldn't , the quran stayed the quran, another one tried, his name is rashad , but rashad also couldn't, becaus ethe quran stayed the quran, never been changed, even bukhari couldn't change it, and trust me, bukhari is way stronger than rashad, he had all persia behind him and couldn't insert anything in the ARABIC quran, they did it though is some " purified pages" in persian to suit their belief.Since, there verse says 'purified pages', we know the false verses
Did u do your research ? or you are just a follower of what people say ?would have to be removed. Otherwise, it is still not pure.
Even if you don't like it, the quran is pure, and will always be, and I don't think u can or rashad or bukhari ever corrupt it .One question, is the translation of rashad , actually the Quran????
These verses are very clear. Furthermore, the Arabic word for 'Proof' (Bayyinah) is mentioned 19 times in the Quran.
yeah,the clear proof of the quran , prouves that mohamed was a messenger from god, his book testifie, it is clear, he reads pure pages, like moses and abraham, SOUHOUFI IBRAHIMA WA MOUSSA, didn't need code19 to be purified pages . -
That table is STUPID and you are (the ignorant) !
5 130 315301050 1
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= 19 x ?!Eid laugh7431
This table bothers you too much but it is very interesting IF you new finding in table works with any 9 digit or may be multiple of 9 and other digits , it could be another Miracle found by you and make that challenge more complicated, you or any body else do a favor as it is not easy for me to change 114 those 9 digits which explains you when you look at the mirror laugh
Yes please find out if any other 9 digits works.
Thank you for help.Did you apologize remove other table where you mindlessly flipped digits to make your idol gv a multiple?
Which table ? do mean my discovery in here
http//y19.net/Rashad.htm
There are million Rashad but on Dr. Rashad Khalidah was trusted by God to reveal secret of 7430Lastly, no one knows the order of revelation especially the last chapter according to some was ch 110, while others last verse revealed was on Kalala inheritance 4176 while others say it was 53 This day, I have perfected your religion for you...
You are right and Rashad did not know too but he designed that table without knowing that such complicated Miracle is embedded inside it but he was sure of his table when in appendix 24 clearly claims that table is right and then he wrote those numbers on every chapter of his translation.
You can gather whole world Mohammedans scholars and guess about orders which was burnt with Original Quran but nobody can desig such table unless by support and inspiration of superhuman.
We have talked about it lot and wasting time of readers, you design one from scratch as i have asked you or stop making noise which poeple are tiring from it , go do your home work and design then come back when you done
This topic is about translation of one word, if you know good Arabic then insert it and please all members in this topic stay away from other issues. only translate one wordA.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.
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Yeah, i thaught u do speak arabic, sorry, this explanation very logic and makes perfect sense about moukataates. I will translate it to english, peace
Peace
Even if I know Arabic but many readers do not know and we have to respect their right too, if the article is about this topic welcome but if not please post it in another topic.
the topic here is to insert the meaning of one word in English translationA.L.R. These (letters) are the ? of this book of wisdom.
Peace -
t is clear in these verses that the people of the scripture (Jews, Christians, Muslims) did not
Please move your topic to realted one this thirs time I am asking you.
I f you know good Arabic hel us to find right word for following
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Salaam Bahman,
Peace
So have you ever study and search why Original was burnt?
or it has not been important for you?
PeaceBrother, I did not understand what you mean? What burning has to do with 381? Can you please explain?
Did you find what I was saying about 381?
Sorry for so many ???
Salaam
May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.
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Just insert your own translation
Let me try inshaAllah.
381
381 And when Allah took a covenant from the prophets For what I have given you of Book and wisdom, then a/any messenger will come to you certified what is with you. You will believe in him and support him. He said Do you testify, and agree to that burden? They said We testify. He said Then bear witness, and I am with you bearing witness.
Some simple question from the above
1- What means "then a/any messenger will come TO YOU"?
2- What means "certified what is WITH YOU"?
3- What means "you will believe in HIM and SUPPORT HIM"? How?
And also what do you mean by the same word i.e., 'Musaddiqun' in 289 and 2101?
May Allah guide us all towards the Truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan