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Verb Imperfect; second person; masculine; Mood Jussive.
The basic perception infolded in the Root is of transferring a thing from one place to another place, and it involves movement. When you read a written text/a book with your tongue you transfer the written matter from paper etc to your memory, where it gets recorded though different from that as it appears or looks on the paper.
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7518 So when we relate it, you shall follow its revelation.
7519 Then it is for us TO EXPLAIN IT .
I was praying tonight and when I pray I read suras from the Quran after I do two prostrations and I came across the above.
Could that mean that there is supose to be an explanation outside the revelation? Ie the hadith.
Personaly I will take the Quran over the hadith always. However after coming across something like this I just had to post it and ask for others opinion.
"We will show them our signs in horizons and among themselves, until it become plain to them that it is the truth. Is it not enough for thee that thy Lord is witness of all things?" (4153)
In my opinion, this means, true explanation of words of God will be done by God Himself by the time.
I hope this view to be helpful for you.
Peace.
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Verb Imperfect; second person; masculine; Mood Jussive.
The basic perception infolded in the Root is of transferring a thing from one place to another place, and it involves movement. When you read a written text/a book with your tongue you transfer the written matter from paper etc to your memory, where it gets recorded though different from that as it appears or looks on the paper.
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Mohammed M. Khan
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Salaam,
Translation is totally wrong! There is no "O Muhammed", "The Angels", "Your heart", "Your mind". Where did you get all this? The translation is simple as follows
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7517
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75197516 Do not move your tongue with it to make haste.
7517 It is for Us to gather and relate it.
7518 So when We relate it, you shall follow its revelation.
7519 Then it is for Us to explain it.May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. KhanSalaam Bro,
A few points- I think ALL translations are wrong. Thats why I used the word "rendition".
- The literal translation is indeed most similar to your translation above, however, the Qur'an is much deeper than word-for-word translations.
- Here are major translations/interpretations in English of this verse
Qur'an 7516
Muhammad Asad-------------MOVE NOT thy tongue in haste,
M. M. Pickthall-----------Stir not thy tongue herewith to hasten it.
Shakir--------------------Do not move your tongue with it to make haste with it,
Yusuf Ali-----------------Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur'an) to make haste therewith.
Al-Muntakhab--------------Do not rush O Muhammad to speak, but hold your tongue and listen to what the Angel relates.
Progressive Muslims-------Do not move your tongue with it to make haste.
Abdel Haleem--------------, do not rush your tongue in an attempt to hasten the Revelation
Abdul Majid Daryabadi-----Move not thy tongue therewith that thou mayest hasten therewith.
Ahmed Ali-----------------Do not move with it your tongue to hurry/hasten/rush with it.
Aisha Bewley--------------Do not move your tongue trying to hasten it.
Ali ?nal------------------(O Prophet!) Move not your tongue to hasten it (for safekeeping in your heart).
Ali Quli Qara'i-----------Do not move your tongue with it to hasten it.
Amatul Rahman Omar--------(Prophet! when We reveal the Qur'an) do not move your tongue (with a mind) to repeat (this revelation in order to commit it to your memory) hurriedly.
Hamid S. Aziz-------------Move not your tongue with it (the Quran) to make haste with it,
Muhammad Mahmoud Ghali----Do not move your tongue with it (The Qur'an) to hasten on with it;
Muhammad Sarwar-----------(Muhammad), do not move your tongue too quickly to recite the Quran.
Muhammad Taqi Usmani------(O Prophet,) do not move your tongue (during revelation) for (reciting) it (the Qur?an) to receive it in hurry.
Shabbir Ahmed-------------(Now whenever you read the verses of the Qur'an) read not in haste stirring your tongue. (20114).
Syed Vickar Ahamed---------Move not your tongue (O Prophet!) about the (Quran) to hurry on with it (in its reading).
Umm Muhammad---------------Move not your tongue with it, , to hasten with recitation of the Qur'an.
Farook Malik---------------MOVE NOT thy tongue in haste,
Bijan Moeinian-------------O? Mohammad, be patient in reciting and putting this Qur?an together.
Faridul Haque--------------O dear Prophet (Mohammed ? peace and blessings be upon him), do not cause your tongue to move along with the Qur?an in order to learn it faster.
Hasan Al-Fatih Qaribullah--Do not move your tongue with it (the Revelation) to hasten it.
Maulana Muhammad Ali-------Move not thy tongue therewith to make haste with it.
Muhammad Ahmed - Samira----Do not forestall (the revelation before its completion) by acting in haste.
Sher Ali-------------------Move not thy tongue, O Prophet, with the revelation of the Qur'an that thou mayest hasten to preserve it.
Yusuf Ali (org.)-----------Move not thy tongue concerning the (Qur'an) to make haste therewith.
Rashad Khalifa-------------Do not move your tongue to hasten it.
Arthur John Arberry--------Move not thy tongue with it to hasten it;
Edward Henry Palmer--------Do not move thy tongue thereby to hasten it.
George Sale----------------Move not thy tongue, O Mohammed, in repeating the revelations brought thee by Gabriel, before he shall have finished the same, that thou mayest quickly commit them to memory
John Medows Rodwell--------Move not thy tongue in haste to follow and master this revelationCheers
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Salaaman brother Sonnie,
Salaam Bro,
A few points- I think ALL translations are wrong. Thats why I used the word "rendition".
- The literal translation is indeed most similar to your translation above, however, the Qur'an is much deeper than word-for-word translations.
- Here are major translations/interpretations in English of this verse
I always use Progressive Muslim's translation with necessary changes.
Qur'an 7516
George Sale----------------Move not thy tongue, O Mohammed, in repeating the revelations brought thee by Gabriel, before he shall have finished the same, that thou mayest quickly commit them to memoryHey! What is this? Is this the translation of 7516 or the translation of whole sura?
May Allah protect us all from adding words to the word of Allah pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaaman brother Sonnie,
I always use Progressive Muslim's translation with necessary changes.
Hey! What is this? Is this the translation of 7516 or the translation of whole sura?
May Allah protect us all from adding words to the word of Allah pr
Mohammed M. KhanWhat is so special in PM's translation? Has it shown any "progress" over what the lot of others have done?
He seems to have translated the prepositional phrase by referring back to earlier injunction on the subject.
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And you, the Messenger need not hasten reading the Qur'aan earlier than that the oral/verbal communication of it may be concluded upon you.
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And you pray, "My Sustainer Lord! You improve me in the faculty of gaining and retrieving knowledge"20113-135
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What is so special in PM's translation? Has it shown any "progress" over what the lot of others have done?
He seems to have translated the prepositional phrase by referring back to earlier injunction on the subject.
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And you, the Messenger need not hasten reading the Qur'aan earlier than that the oral/verbal communication of it may be concluded upon you.
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And you pray, "My Sustainer Lord! You improve me in the faculty of gaining and retrieving knowledge"20113-135
First of all you take out hatred from your heart about others, cause you are not going to answer for any one except for yourself. Look for yourself where your KNOWLEDGE and HATRED leading you. Is it towards Allah? Or...
It is very common that everyone make mistakes. Same as you do, don't you? Look below from the same page that the link in your post takes you.
And you pray, "My Sustainer Lord! You improve me in the faculty of gaining and retrieving knowledge"
20120
he said to him, "O Adam! May I lead you to the tree of eternity and of a kingdom that never falls/decays?"
20125
He said, "My Sustainer Lord! Why have you gathered me blind while indeed I had vision".
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You, the Messenger pronounce, "Each one is waiting, therefore, you people wait whereby you people will soon know who are the companions of the straightly even path and who is guided.
Once "Pray" and "Say" and "Pronounce" for the same word. This is because Allah said
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482 Do they not reflect on the Quraan? If it was from any other than Allah they would have found in it many a discrepancy.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
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First of all you take out hatred from your heart about others, cause you are not going to answer for any one except for yourself. Look for yourself where your KNOWLEDGE and HATRED leading you. Is it towards Allah? Or...
Strange logic and inference!!
Sonnie quoted more than two dozens translations including that of PM. And you commented straight discarding all others
I always use Progressive Muslim's translation with necessary changes.
And when I ask you to clarify as to what is so special therein and what "progress" have they made over others, you take it as hatred in the heart about others.
And then you consider this a mistake;
And you, the Messenger need not hasten reading the Qur'aan earlier than that the oral/verbal communication of it may be concluded upon you.
And you pray, "My Sustainer Lord! You improve me in the faculty of gaining and retrieving knowledge"Qul is a verb, imperative, second person, masculine, singular, with implied pronoun "Anta". And the act of verb is to make a statement, oral utterence. And the oral utterence which is being told to him is about a request to be made to Allah. So in keeping with what is being uttered, the appropriate word in English for the act of verb seems "pray".
And when one is asked to utter a statement of the nature of a news, the best word, in my opinion is "pronounce"-formally declare something.
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Strange logic and inference!!
Sonnie quoted more than two dozens translations including that of PM. And you commented straight discarding all others
And when I ask you to clarify as to what is so special therein and what "progress" have they made over others, you take it as hatred in the heart about others.And then you consider this a mistake;
This was not the logic brother, but it was a suggestion. I did not mean to hurt you, if you felt so, please accept my apologize.
And you, the Messenger need not hasten reading the Qur'aan earlier than that the oral/verbal communication of it may be concluded upon you.
And you pray, "My Sustainer Lord! You improve me in the faculty of gaining and retrieving knowledge"Qul is a verb, imperative, second person, masculine, singular, with implied pronoun "Anta". And the act of verb is to make a statement, oral utterence. And the oral utterence which is being told to him is about a request to be made to Allah. So in keeping with what is being uttered, the appropriate word in English for the act of verb seems "pray".
And when one is asked to utter a statement of the nature of a news, the best word, in my opinion is "pronounce"-formally declare something.
When Allah used the word "Qul" it simply means "Say", IF Allah wanted to say "Pray", He would have surely used some appropriate word instead of Qul.
There is an important and specific reason for each and every word used in AlQuraan / AlKitaab. So, we don't need to correct Allah. And it is always better for US to translate it as said by Allah instead of adding our understanding to it.
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
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When Allah used the word "Qul" it simply means "Say", IF Allah wanted to say "Pray", He would have surely used some appropriate word instead of Qul.
When what is going to be uttered is an imperative verb there the word "say" denotes a command. And we do not command Allah but we pray to Allah.
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When what is going to be uttered is an imperative verb there the word "say" denotes a command. And we do not command Allah but we pray to Allah.
Where are we commanding Allah? Allah is commanding us to "Say Rabbi alzidni 'ilma"
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
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Where are we commanding Allah? Allah is commanding us to "Say Rabbi alzidni 'ilma"
May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. KhanEven in English no one writes like this, red above. Say is outside the quote.
is an imperative/command verb- , second person, masculine, singular, and the Subject of verb is Allah who is being requeted to do that act.
When the subject of such command Verb is Allah-the Exalted this verb is referred as and since Allah is first commanding to do this act, Qul denoted "You pray"