An Enquiry About Fornication
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"And who guard their private parts, except before their mates or those whom their right hands possess, for they surely are not blameable."
235-6
Firstly can someone explain who are "those whom their right hands possess" in such a way that it fits 425 logically and secondly does this verse allow fornication with certain people?
Many thanks, peace.
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guarding of the private parts doesn't mean fornication. in sura 5, 24, 25 and 60, the koran is clear on fornication. God makes it clear fornication is evil and tells us not to go near it. if there were exceptions, God would have stated that.
right hand possess can be translated as servants/maids. if besides a spouse, my maid/servant sees my private parts then i am not violating myself. i would also include home health aids, nurses, doctors too who have seen more than my private parts. if i am not able to take care of myself and i hire someone to help me bathe, wipe and such, am not doing anything wrong.
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guarding of the private parts doesn't mean fornication. in sura 5, 24, 25 and 60, the koran is clear on fornication. God makes it clear fornication is evil and tells us not to go near it. if there were exceptions, God would have stated that.
right hand possess can be translated as servants/maids. if besides a spouse, my maid/servant sees my private parts then i am not violating myself. i would also include home health aids, nurses, doctors too who have seen more than my private parts. if i am not able to take care of myself and i hire someone to help me bathe, wipe and such, am not doing anything wrong.
Peace,
I think you are misinterprating the expression "ma malakat aymanukim" "those whom their right hands possess" (MMA), I would advice you to use the search tool!!!
salam
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It seems the Qur'an DOES allow fornication, the question just being with whom. I will have to do more reading.
"And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed."
7029-30
There is required a lot of twisting and arbitrary artificial fitting to avoid this thing.
"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you (as prisoners of war?), and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
3350
Peace
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It seems the Qur'an DOES allow fornication, the question just being with whom. I will have to do more reading.
"And those who guard their private parts, except in the case of their wives or those whom their right hands possess-- for these surely are not to be blamed."
7029-30
There is required (perhaps) some twisting and arbitrary artificial fitting to avoid this thing.
"O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you (as prisoners of war?), and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."
3350
Peace
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mesmorial,
if what you say is true that fornication is allowed, could you please explain your understanding of the following verses
Suras 55, 242,3, 2568, 6012
let's look at the Koran understanding it globally and then come to your conclusion.
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mesmorial,
if what you say is true that fornication is allowed, could you please explain your understanding of the following verses
Suras 55, 242,3, 2568, 6012
let's look at the Koran understanding it globally and then come to your conclusion.
It seems that "those whom the right hands possess" are certainly owned and not simply employed (because there is a distinction between "free" people and they in 425). So there may be slavery of some form. We have to prove that "fornication" include having sex with those who you do own (since even marriage is simply contractual and not sacred).
I will read more.
Peace.
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Salam,
my understanding of "those whom the right hands possess" is the people you are engaged with, e.g. someone you are mariying but haven't consumed the mariage yet, someone you are divorcing but you still can get back with.
In these 2 cases, you stil can go back before concluding you are married, but if you have "sexual relation" with her/him then you are "quranicaly" married.
Peace