A Tribute To him(Peace is upon) on His Birthday

loxbox13

peace Raaajah

Nobody would deny who was Prophet Mohammad...For whatever he achieved in his life does that give you permission praising him day and night?

Whatever he did, does that mean he did it to receive your praise day and night?

For whatever he did in his life God asked him in 1779 for more meditation in order to raise his rank in Hereafter unless you want to tell me that he did whatever he did for his earthly life.

And finally what are you trying to tell us that instead focusing on praising God day and night we should share our focus on Prophet Mohammad too?

Asana

Why do you feel insecure whenever Mohamed was mentioned historicczly ? don't eel insecure, he was a great man, and deserve to be known hisotrically specially he was the man whom muslim sects gave him a bad caracter and slandered him by the imams who were the enemies of god and the messenger , under the cover of been muslims

There is no worship if someone say prophet mohamed was a great man, or talk aout his history and all
the only thing that god commanded us in the quran , is to take the quran as our only guide, and only book for legislation and all, but the Quran never said forget mohamed or moses or anybody, he said we have to learn from their stories in the quran, and mohamed is one of them, his story is everywhere in the quran

but the quran also advise us to look in archeology and all to see how the generations of the past lived, and mohamed is one of the generations of the past, and because he is the messenger of God whom was blessed with the quran, than we have to know his caracter, how truthfull he was , bec?use u have to verify the messenger's caracter to accept the news.

nothing wrong to know about him, but only follow the book the mohamed brought from god and no other book.

huruf

We cannot disdain or hide as if it was some shameful family secret the person who was entrusted by the Most Merciful with the transmission of a message and fulfilled that task magnificently, to the point that today all of us can rely on the completitude and faithfulness of that message. The Most Merciful called him the seal of Prophets, and there are not Prophets after him, because his message complete is already with all of us, his successors and companions in timelessness. Acknowledging the message he was given and he gave us, we acknowledge receipt, we acknowledge our nature, our khilafe nature and prophetic nature, we are his companions and the companions of all the good men and women who have followed His messages. It s courtesy to the messengers of God, to the bet of companions that we think of them with affection and sincerity, and if we think we may feel also like expressing it aloud.

Finally, doesn't it give some feeling of encouragement that we are successors of all the line of the faithful, of the submitted of all ages, that we are not an island, but prt of a wonderful universe that worships the One.

Salaam

Asana

peace loxbox

Would you think defending monotheistic ideology through message of God means feeling insecurity?

Making distinction among the messengers of God is what Raaajah is doing here plus making an idol beside God. I wonder if he would pay the same kind of tribute to other messengers of God.
He is trying to make a point that Prophet Mohammad is above the other messengers of God and should be praised for it.
God has already told us in the Quran that messenger sets a good example .Why God didn?t use the word of Prophet there?

It wasn?t Mohammad who achieved what he achieved in his life to be praised for now. It was God and His Message that he followed .God supported him to win the battles and God guided him all the way till his death?.His mission was to deliver the message not that achieving what he wanted to do in his private life in order to become an idol beside God to be praised .

Those thinkers praised him but I wonder which one of them truly became a Muslim in Eyes of God by accepting/believing in One god and His message that Mohammad fought and lived for it as they don't praise him for that now.

There is nothing wrong in remembering who messengers of God were. As a matter of fact it?s beneficial remembering in what they did in the cause of God by setting a good example but not in that extend to make them god beside God to rival Him like praising Prophet day and night by taking the beads in hand counting the number of Salawat on him instead of glorifying God and commemorating God through His message.

Yes you?re right God advise us to search the earth and study it like archeology to get to know who God the Creator is and what His message is all about and why worshiping Him alone is necessary. He doesn?t ask us to study them in order making an idol out of His Creatures beside Him like what Raaajah meant in doing so here.

He keeps emphasizing on 1779 to remind us the status of prophet that he should be praised. That was all his point by writing such a thread??.In no where in his thread he praised God for the blessing that He sent on us by sending Mohammad as a messenger to save our souls??.

Please reread his thread and see who the center of focus is by him and those thinkers, is it God and His message that deserved to be praised at the end or Mohammad as a human being who without God?s message and support was nobody?Please pay attention to how he finishes his message too.

All messengers of God lived and died for God's message and Him Alone to be praised but human beings try to shift the focus on God to His powerless creatures by the name of messengers and Saints to be praised too?..This was the hidden message of Raaajah?s thread.

All praises due to God

Asana

mmkhan

Salaam,

peace Raaajah

Nobody would deny who was Prophet Mohammad...For whatever he achieved in his life does that give you permission praising him day and night?

Whatever he did, does that mean he did it to receive your praise day and night?

For whatever he did in his life God asked him in 1779 for more meditation in order to raise his rank in Hereafter unless you want to tell me that he did whatever he did for his earthly life.

And finally what are you trying to tell us that instead focusing on praising God day and night we should share our focus on Prophet Mohammad too?

Asana

and We have since raised high for you the mention/remembrance/repute of you .

May be it is near that your Sustainer Lord may revive/return you to the original Place/Abode of Glory and Praise.

Both the aayaats quoted above is not ONLY referring to Prophet Mohammed (AS) as the another aayat also quoted as

And those who believe and do righteous deeds and believe in what has been sent down upon Muhammad - and it is the truth from their Lord - He will remove from them their misdeeds and amend their condition.

This above aayat was specifically referring to Prophet Mohammed (AS) as the name was used. Same as other names were taken "Ibrahim (AS)", "Moosa (AS)", "Noah (AS)", "Haroon (AS)", "Eisa (AS)", etc...

Allah is very specific about His words.

May Allah guide us all towards the truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan

mmkhan

Salaam Asana,

Making distinction among the messengers of God is what Raaajah is doing here plus making an idol beside God. I wonder if he would pay the same kind of tribute to other messengers of God.
He is trying to make a point that Prophet Mohammad is above the other messengers of God and should be praised for it.
God has already told us in the Quran that messenger sets a good example .Why God didn?t use the word of Prophet there?

They are trying to make Prophet Mohammed (AS) above the other messengers of Allah? nope

But they are trying make him sit beside Allah. Don't you agree with me? Look below

Salam Raaajah,

Well done. May Allah and he be pleased with you.

Words with us will always fall short to praise him, his granedur is above our capability to define and express it equal to that. Only Allah can and has described his greatness, in the Grand Qur'aan.

When I was reading the above highlighted part from last para, I was having an expression that it was talking about Allah but .... &

Cause those words ONLY suite Allah.

2165

2165 And from among the people are some who take other than Allah as equals to Him, they love them as they love Allah; but those who believe love Allah more strongly; and when those who were wicked see the retribution, they will see that all power belongs to Allah, and that Allah is severe in retribution.

May Allah guide us all towards HIS path and make us free from idol worshiping pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Asana

Salam mmkhan

Well as you quoted Mazhar?s response truly proved what the purpose of this thread was!...totally agreed with you.

May God open our hearts to His Light

Asana

Layth

Please folks...Stop the idol worship!

Only God is worthy of our praise and worship...Be He glorified.

3144 And Mohammed is but a messenger, like many messengers who have passed before him. If he dies or is killed will you turn back on your heels? And whoever turns back on his heels, he will not harm God in the least. And God will recompense the thankful.

Raaajah

Salaam Asana and mm khan

I need not to answer for those who got irritated whenever the name Muhammad Peace is upon him is used, Quran answers for itself they "have to wait for Allah's decision/command"

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You, the Messenger pronounce, "If your fathers, and your sons, and your brothers, and your spouses and your clans;and the wealth that you have acquired, and the business you people fear recession in it and the residences you are delighted with are more attractive and dearer to you people than Allah and His Messenger and endeavoring/exerting utmost with wealth and bodily/physically for His cause/path then wait until such time Allah proclaims His decision/command.

Those who try to bring Nafaaq in the Ummah by pronouncing different numbers of prayers and make their own Salaat, Quran answers to them, those who follow false prophets and make separate Masjid quran answer to those

As for those who have set up a mosque, causing harm and out of disbelief, to create division between the believers, and in readiness for those who previously made war on Allah and His Messenger, they will swear, "We only desired the best." But Allah bears witness that they are truly liars. Do not ever stand in it. A mosque founded on fear of Allah from the first day has a greater right for you to stand in it. In it there are men who love to purify themselves. Allah loves those who purify themselves. Who is better someone who founds his building on fear of Allah and His good pleasure, or someone who founds his building on the brink of a crumbling precipice so that it collapses with him into the Fire of Hell? Allah does not love wrongdoers. The buildings they have built will not cease to be a bone of contention in their hearts, until their hearts are cut to shreds. Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. (Surat at-Tawba, 107-110

Muhammad has not been the father of single one from amongst your men, and he in fact is the Final Messenger of Allah and The Finalizer of the series of Distinct, Elevated and Chosen Ones of Allah And Allah is Ever All-Knower/Aware of each and everything.

and no matter how jealous one must feel Allah says

and We have since raised high for you the mention/remembrance/repute of you .

Raaajah

Layth

Please folks...Stop the idol worship!
Only God is worthy of our praise and worship...Be He glorified.
3144 And Mohammed is but a messenger, like many messengers who have passed before him. Please folks...Stop the idol worship!

Only God is worthy of our praise and worship...Be He glorified.

3144 And Mohammed is but a messenger, like many messengers who have passed before him. If he dies or is killed will you turn back on your heels? And whoever turns back on his heels, he will not harm God in the least. And God will recompense the thankful.

This ayat is totally out of context of what is being discussed.
"Muhammad is but a messenger" Yes he is
"Like many messengers who have passed before him" True
"If he dies or is killed will you turn back on your heels? And whoever turns back on his heels, he will not harm God in the least" Very true
"And God will recompense the thankful" No doubt

But where does this ayat says that we should not love Muhammad peace is upon him? it even never goes near it, this ayat in-fact confirms the status of Muhammad Peace is upon him as a messenger.

So who are those passed away messengers Allah is comparing him

"O Maryam! indeed Allah gives you the good news of the son named Meseiha, Easa son of Maryam, with this word/promise from Him that he will be respectable and honorable in this world and the Hereafter, and he will be amongst the near-ones of Allah;

for Ibraheem (As) he said
His Sustainer Lord said "I declare you as Imam/Leader for people."

We elevate the ranks for whom We so will.
Indeed your Sustainer Lord is eternally and intrinsically The Wise, The All Knower of apparent and invisible/ secreted/infolded And to him We gifted Ies'hauqe and Ya'qoob All of them We guided. And We guided Noah in aforetime And guided in his posterity Da'ued, and Sulie'maan, and Ayub and Yusuf and Musa and Haroon.And in this way We reward those who conduct moderately, gracefully and generously And guided Zakariyya, and Yahya and Easa and Ilyas; each and every one of them was amongst righteous/perfectionists..And Iesma'eile and Al-Yasa'a and Yunus and Lut . And We gave all of them over and above the entire humanity the uniqueness/sanctity/individuality/distinction

Did you see brother Layth what was the status of these messengers

Therefore when Allah says he is But a messenger like those who passed away it is meant he is with those who are not ordinary but with those who are chosen/selected/distinct/unique.

And Muhammad peace is upon him is no doubt unique.

Layth
Only God is worthy of our praise and worship...Be He glorified.

That is the message of Muhammad peace is upon him.
But Allah praises Muhammad Peace is upon him

May be it is near that your Sustainer Lord may revive/return you to the original Place/Abode of Glory and Praise.

Secondly this verse is during the war of Uhud when Muslims were defeated. Muslims left the battle field as soon as they hear the Prophet Muhammad peace is upon him has been killed, therefore they suffered a humiliating defeat, lots of close companions of Prophet left the battle field in this time. Thus the Ayat was revealed; Allah questioning those who left the battle field after hearing the rumor of death of Prophet, What if prophet dies a natural death or is killed will the Muslims turn away? and then warns them if they will turn away, they will be losers themselves.
Later in next verses Allah tells that a time is destined for every one written in the book.

Allah Ho Akbar!

Mazhar

Salaam Asana,

They are trying to make Prophet Mohammed (AS) above the other messengers of Allah? nope

But they are trying make him sit beside Allah. Don't you agree with me? Look below

Quote Mazhar
Salam Raaajah,

Well done. May Allah and he be pleased with you.

Words with us will always fall short to praise him, his granedur is above our capability to define and express it equal to that. Only Allah can and has described his greatness, in the Grand Qur'aan.

When I was reading the above highlighted part from last para, I was having an expression that it was talking about Allah but .... &

Cause those words ONLY suite Allah.

2165

2165 And from among the people are some who take other than Allah as equals to Him, they love them as they love Allah; but those who believe love Allah more strongly; and when those who were wicked see the retribution, they will see that all power belongs to Allah, and that Allah is severe in retribution.

May Allah guide us all towards HIS path and make us free from idol worshiping pr
Mohammed M. Khan

is plural, and the pronoun referring to them is also plural . This Ayat has nothing to do with the Messengers of Allah, they are not idols.

Allah quotes the Messengers alongwith/besides His Own Self.

Paradise is only for those who believed in Allah and His Messengers. People Believing in Allah alone are NOT entitled for the Paradise.

For read part of my quote

and if, when they people did wrong themselves, they had come to you, the Messenger then sought forgiveness of Allah and for them The Messenger sought forgiveness for them thereby surely they would have found Allah paying attention mercifully.

Those who are under a sekf deceiving thought of loving Allah vehementally conveniently forget this that to get reciprocal love of Allah is now conditional

You the Messenger, pronounce, "If you people love Allah, then consciously incline yourselves to follow me, in letter and spirit, without in between there being third party intervention, Allah will in response love/appreciate and acknowledge act of you people and for you He will overlook/forgive your wrong-doings"

loxbox13