There is No God.
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Someone add this to some Quran vs Hadith database. The sunni belief that god shall be seen, an innovation introduced via hadith, can simply be dismissed by the following verse http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/6/103/
"No human vision can encompass Him, whereas He encompasses all human vision for He alone is unfathomable, all-aware."
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I don't really understand your reply. The verse clearly mentions that which Allah's name has been pronounced. But you say you cannot physically speak it. Calling Allah's name boundless doesn't answer the question.
My understanding is that if something is in the name of ALLAH it is in the name of ultimate divine justice. This has to be expressed in actions, talk is cheap.
The way I mean that you cannot physically speak it, is that ALLAH is a name given to the originally nameless that created us, if that makes sense?
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Salam and Peace, everyone!
1)---There is no God!-----This is correct!
2)---There is God!--------This is also correct!For someone there is no God.
For someone there is God.Consider an example.
A burning red hot coal.-----A ten month old infant.-----He sees it and draws near it, and is about to touch it.-----The mother runs and takes him in her arms.
For the infant there is no burning coal. He does not fear it. Because he is unaware of it. Because he has no knowledge of the burning coal.A grown up will never touch a burning red hot coal. He knows, because he has knowledge that it will burn his hand.
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What is the effect of feeling there is no God?
And what is the effect of feeling there is God?In fact, this is the matter of having Iman in God.
If someone has no Iman in God, he is then fearless of God.---For him there is no God.---He has no Iman in Al-Qiyamah then. He lives a life of his own desires.And if someone has Iman in God, he fears God.-----For him there is God.
What is Iman in something?
Iman is The Knowledge of something. The more knowledge, the more Iman.
Knowing your God more, means having more Iman in God. And having more fear of God.Allah is in The Unseen. No one can see Allah. But he can have a feeling that there is Allah by having more Knowledge about Allah. This is Iman in Allah.
So, there are degrees of Iman. More you know your Allah, more you have Iman in Allah, more you fear your Allah, more righteous you are.Allah has sent His Exalted Quran.
What is Al-Quran?---Al-Quran is the Introduction of Allah.
Allah's Quran is the most wonderful Book in the universe. The more you read Allah's Quran, the more you know about your Allah.There is Allah. There is the Messenger. There are parents. There is wife. There are children. There are people. There are things around in the universe.
We have a relationship with every one and everything.---But all the relationships break one day.-----But, the relationship with Allah never breaks.
Allah created us. Allah is near us more than our life-artery.
If we look at ourselves, we will know there is Allah.
Allah is our God. We are our Allah's servant. There is no one between us and our Allah. So, there is no intercession.-----"Indeed, This (Quran) is a Reminder. So whoever wills, let him take the way to his Lord" (Al-Dahr-29)===================================
In our daily life we must have seen and heard someone saying someone, "Hey, don't do wrong to him. Allah is watching you. Don't you fear Allah?"
Hey, he has no fear of Allah. He thinks no one is watching him doing wrong. For him, there is no God.And who fears Allah, and stops himself from wrong-doings, for him there is God.
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Salaam,
the foundation of Islam is this statement, There is No God, why then do Muslims continue to express belief in a God, have they failed to grasp the concept of God; Allah has no problem with the concept of God, and Allah has asked every Muslim to understand There is No God, before understanding any other idea, the very foundation of Islam, and this foundation is not understood.
If you would like to understand the foundation of Islam, and have a few minutes to spare to remove the Shirk of God, please have a read of the essay in the link below.
http//servantofthelight.com/content/view/7/1/
Your point makes a lot of sense, but its just too confusing, gives me headaches Ah scholars, scholars...
But the fact he SPOKE to Moses according to Qur'an, does that change anything?
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
which Surah and Ayah are you talking about?
Huh?
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Anyway forget that, can you tell me what is Allah ( I believe i would do shirk according to your point if i said who), and i hope i get no answer like Everything including you is a part of it... Allah is kinda separate from us right? even tho He is CLOSEST to us?
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Which "us"?
You have two selves. One is your ego self, restricted to the lenses of your human body. The other is your higher/true self and it stretches the width of the universe. And both of these are in a constant struggle to manifest in one's body until the higher self wins or the body perishes.
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Which "us"?
You have two selves. One is your ego self, restricted to the lenses of your human body. The other is your higher/true self and it stretches the width of the universe. And both of these are in a constant struggle to manifest in one's body until the higher self wins or the body perishes.
I ment humans and such.
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ALLAH is beyond all human description.
He is that which sees all yet nothing sees "him", because you cannot see that which sees.
ALLAH is the base consciousness of infinite knowledge that pervades this universe which is currently expressing itself through a myriad of different ways. And even yet, that does not do any justice to ALLAH.
Get your lateral thinking cap on, because this is beyond easy to understand if you look laterally but if you look normally, it is impossible to grasp.
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ALLAH is beyond all human description.
He is that which sees all yet nothing sees "him", because you cannot see that which sees.
ALLAH is the base consciousness of infinite knowledge that pervades this universe which is currently expressing itself through a myriad of different ways. And even yet, that does not do any justice to ALLAH.
Get your lateral thinking cap on, because this is beyond easy to understand if you look laterally but if you look normally, it is impossible to grasp.
Tell me something I don't know. But Abdun's version to tell this has became even more confusing to understand now...
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
it maybe simpler if you explained what you do not understand, what questions have you got, what are you looking to understand, this thread has a broad explanation already, and OPF has explained the simple concept again for you, what puzzles you. It is a difficult idea for people to realise Allah is not part of a religion, Allah is the single consciousness, pure nothingness remains if Allah disappears.
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
it maybe simpler if you explained what you do not understand, what questions have you got, what are you looking to understand, this thread has a broad explanation already, and OPF has explained the simple concept again for you, what puzzles you. It is a difficult idea for people to realise Allah is not part of a religion, Allah is the single consciousness, pure nothingness remains if Allah disappears.
Can Allah decide what he wants to do? Right? The way you're saying it makes me think that you're saying we're all a part of Allah...
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To think about it, the stuff i read on your website makes a lot of sense... but its hard to tell which one is the right... and thinking that there is no God, but Allah only, does that make you an atheist? Is Allah a deity? And are we separate from Allah, but in the same time we're not because he is everywhere, omnipresent? And i compliment you for having such a strong brain, just thinking these stuff gives me a headache. You know whaT? I just thought again and dont reply to this, an admin can delete my posts please?
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
the simple way to see why Allah is not a God is in direction, a God is an outside force controlling the universe, outside of us, requiring prayer, worship, adoration; while Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation everything would disappear; so Allah is from the inside out, this means to pray is asking an outside force to grant your desires, for example, while Allah knows all you think, all you see, all you hear, all you feel, at every instant, closer than your jugular vein, how can it be possible for anyone worship outwardly what exists from the point of origin of their very essence.
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
the simple way to see why Allah is not a God is in direction, a God is an outside force controlling the universe, outside of us, requiring prayer, worship, adoration; while Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation everything would disappear; so Allah is from the inside out, this means to pray is asking an outside force to grant your desires, for example, while Allah knows all you think, all you see, all you hear, all you feel, at every instant, closer than your jugular vein, how can it be possible for anyone worship outwardly what exists from the point of origin of their very essence.
When i think of God/Allah i don't think of him as an outside force. But i think Allah is what a REAL God is, not a fake made up one, and presented just like humans think it.
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ALLAH = THE God.