There is No God.
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
which Surah and Ayah are you talking about?
Huh?
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Anyway forget that, can you tell me what is Allah ( I believe i would do shirk according to your point if i said who), and i hope i get no answer like Everything including you is a part of it... Allah is kinda separate from us right? even tho He is CLOSEST to us?
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Which "us"?
You have two selves. One is your ego self, restricted to the lenses of your human body. The other is your higher/true self and it stretches the width of the universe. And both of these are in a constant struggle to manifest in one's body until the higher self wins or the body perishes.
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Which "us"?
You have two selves. One is your ego self, restricted to the lenses of your human body. The other is your higher/true self and it stretches the width of the universe. And both of these are in a constant struggle to manifest in one's body until the higher self wins or the body perishes.
I ment humans and such.
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ALLAH is beyond all human description.
He is that which sees all yet nothing sees "him", because you cannot see that which sees.
ALLAH is the base consciousness of infinite knowledge that pervades this universe which is currently expressing itself through a myriad of different ways. And even yet, that does not do any justice to ALLAH.
Get your lateral thinking cap on, because this is beyond easy to understand if you look laterally but if you look normally, it is impossible to grasp.
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ALLAH is beyond all human description.
He is that which sees all yet nothing sees "him", because you cannot see that which sees.
ALLAH is the base consciousness of infinite knowledge that pervades this universe which is currently expressing itself through a myriad of different ways. And even yet, that does not do any justice to ALLAH.
Get your lateral thinking cap on, because this is beyond easy to understand if you look laterally but if you look normally, it is impossible to grasp.
Tell me something I don't know. But Abdun's version to tell this has became even more confusing to understand now...
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
it maybe simpler if you explained what you do not understand, what questions have you got, what are you looking to understand, this thread has a broad explanation already, and OPF has explained the simple concept again for you, what puzzles you. It is a difficult idea for people to realise Allah is not part of a religion, Allah is the single consciousness, pure nothingness remains if Allah disappears.
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
it maybe simpler if you explained what you do not understand, what questions have you got, what are you looking to understand, this thread has a broad explanation already, and OPF has explained the simple concept again for you, what puzzles you. It is a difficult idea for people to realise Allah is not part of a religion, Allah is the single consciousness, pure nothingness remains if Allah disappears.
Can Allah decide what he wants to do? Right? The way you're saying it makes me think that you're saying we're all a part of Allah...
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To think about it, the stuff i read on your website makes a lot of sense... but its hard to tell which one is the right... and thinking that there is no God, but Allah only, does that make you an atheist? Is Allah a deity? And are we separate from Allah, but in the same time we're not because he is everywhere, omnipresent? And i compliment you for having such a strong brain, just thinking these stuff gives me a headache. You know whaT? I just thought again and dont reply to this, an admin can delete my posts please?
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
the simple way to see why Allah is not a God is in direction, a God is an outside force controlling the universe, outside of us, requiring prayer, worship, adoration; while Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation everything would disappear; so Allah is from the inside out, this means to pray is asking an outside force to grant your desires, for example, while Allah knows all you think, all you see, all you hear, all you feel, at every instant, closer than your jugular vein, how can it be possible for anyone worship outwardly what exists from the point of origin of their very essence.
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Salaam Kaiokenred,
the simple way to see why Allah is not a God is in direction, a God is an outside force controlling the universe, outside of us, requiring prayer, worship, adoration; while Allah manifests every atom of this reality from the inside out instant to instant, without that constant re-manifestation everything would disappear; so Allah is from the inside out, this means to pray is asking an outside force to grant your desires, for example, while Allah knows all you think, all you see, all you hear, all you feel, at every instant, closer than your jugular vein, how can it be possible for anyone worship outwardly what exists from the point of origin of their very essence.
When i think of God/Allah i don't think of him as an outside force. But i think Allah is what a REAL God is, not a fake made up one, and presented just like humans think it.
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ALLAH = THE God.
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I think the confusion here comes from the fact that "God" is nowadays an essentially meaningless name thrown around by everyone. With so many images/idols made about "God" there is a cloud of bullshit surrounding the term.
However there has only ever been one "ALLAH".
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I think the confusion here comes from the fact that "God" is nowadays an essentially meaningless name thrown around by everyone. With so many images/idols made about "God" there is a cloud of bullshit surrounding the term.
However there has only ever been one "ALLAH".
I think one can get so much into semantics and not realise that Allah/The God is beyond words. Even Allah can have meanings with images/idols...look at those that pray to the Kaaba revering Allah....does that mean one should not use Allah to describe The Creator?? There are arab christians that still use Allah as part of Trinity. So I still think this position of There is no God is just a game of semantics, it is essentially down to having the correct understanding and belief of our Creator rather than what to call our Creator.
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I think one can get so much into semantics and not realise that Allah/The God is beyond words. Even Allah can have meanings with images/idols...look at those that pray to the Kaaba revering Allah....does that mean one should not use Allah to describe The Creator?? There are arab christians that still use Allah as part of Trinity. So I still think this position of There is no God is just a game of semantics, it is essentially down to having the correct understanding and belief of our Creator rather than what to call our Creator.
PEACEI'm sure this may have been addressed before, but is Allah the Tao?
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Salaam,
wiki says
Tao or Dao is a metaphysical concept originating in Daoism that has been adopted in Confucianism, Ch?n and Zen Buddhism and more broadly in East Asian religions and ancient Chinese philosophy. While the word itself literally translates as 'way', 'path', or 'route', or sometimes more loosely as 'doctrine' or 'principle', it is generally used to signify the primordial essence or fundamental aspect of the universe. In Daoist philosophy the word Dao is not generally considered to be a 'name' for a 'thing' it is a reference to the natural order of existence, often referred to as the "eternally nameless? (Dao De Jing-32. Laozi) to distinguish it from the countless 'named' things which are considered to be its manifestations. In Buddhism and Confucianism, by contrast, Dao has come to refer to the outcome of meditative or moral practices (respectively), which is closer in meaning to the Daoist concept of De (virtue).This seems to agree with the Qur'anic perspective of Allah.
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Religion, worship, adoration, fear of an invisible being, government, parliament, politicians, constitution, legislation, other authorities, personal ownership of resources are the main things that should disappear from this world. You cannot enforce these things.
Just as yourself, what is the point of worshiping an invisible being called God that tells you that he loves you, but if you don't love him back, is going to burn you forever?
Have some sense people.