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Did u know tht Dinos existed 2gether with man?

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    jonny_k
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    Salam,
    http//www.creationists.org/dinos_artifacts_and_art.html
    Wht do u say now Andaya Primanda? If tht is not enough just goto yahoo search n simply enter 'peru dinosaurs' without commas in the search. GOD Bless!

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      Andya_Primanda
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      I laugh.

      If I found a painting depicting humans and dragons, would you believe that dragons exist? Surely you know that artists sometimes draw fantasy themes?

      Khizar, dinosaurs die out 65 million years ago. Man appeared ca. 2 million years ago. If you had bothered to learn, dinosaur fossils and human fossils are never found in the same geological layer, because there are millions of years separating their existence.

      Regarding your source

      Ica stones they are made by local villagers to sell to tourists.
      http//www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710_1.html

      None involved fossils, which are direct evidence of the existence of dinosaurs.

      Stop reading rubbish material by young-earth creationists and study the evidence properly.

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        esimsek100
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        I laugh.

        If I found a painting depicting humans and dragons, would you believe that dragons exist? Surely you know that artists sometimes draw fantasy themes?

        lol lol lol lol

        Peace,

        There's this book called "Biggest world secrets" and it speaks of a conspiracy of a lizard-like race trying to take over the world.

        Some people will believe anything.

        lol lol

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          neo
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          /\ I read that actually, or a variation of it. It was an entertaining read...it would make a great movie. With James Cameron at the helm and Nicholas Cage starring. YEAH!!

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            jonny_k
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            Regarding your source

            Ica stones they are made by local villagers to sell to tourists.
            http//www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710_1.html

            None involved fossils, which are direct evidence of the existence of dinosaurs.

            Stop reading rubbish material by young-earth creationists and study the evidence properly.

            Khi- I knew it. I just knew tht u wld answer like tht. The same cld be said of ur sources. But when u present evidence u call me denying it n now ur denying my evidence. Duh! There is more 2 it which u can see on the following clip
            http//www.drdino.com8080/Downloads/Seminar/vids/index.jsp
            Dl the 2nd part n click on 'mirror dl B'. GOD Bless!

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              Andya_Primanda
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              Khi- I knew it. I just knew tht u wld answer like tht. The same cld be said of ur sources. But when u present evidence u call me denying it n now ur denying my evidence. Duh! There is more 2 it which u can see on the following clip
              http//www.drdino.com8080/Downloads/Seminar/vids/index.jsp
              Dl the 2nd part n click on 'mirror dl B'. GOD Bless!

              My evidence is the fossil record, which consistently show that dinosaurs and humans were never found in the same strata. It shows that dinosaurs died out 63 million years ago, 61 million years before any human appeared. We know that dinosaurs do fossilize they are plenty and they have large bones. We know that sixty-plus million years is a long time and we know that life on earth during that sixty-plus million years does not include dinosaurs, because there weren't any fossils of dinosaurs younger than 63 million years.

              Your evidence is a bunch of paintings and sculptures, which we know as art forms does not necessarily reflect reality. Worse yet, your source is someone who wants people to believe that the earth is only 6000 years old because some bishop says so in the past.

              Now do you see why I regard your source as rubbish?

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                jonny_k
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                Now do you see why I regard your source as rubbish?

                Khi- Salam. No i dont. All i see is tht anyone can make up n arrange fossils in a way 2 support their claim. GOD Bless!

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                  Andya_Primanda
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                  Now do you see why I regard your source as rubbish?

                  Khi- Salam. No i dont. All i see is tht anyone can make up n arrange fossils in a way 2 support their claim. GOD Bless!

                  Well, I challenge you to support your claim, using fossils, that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

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                    jonny_k
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                    Well, I challenge you to support your claim, using fossils, that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

                    Khi- Well i showed u evidence just as u showed me urs. GOD Bless!

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                      Man appeared ca. 2 million years ago.

                      A "fossil?" of 6 millions of years called Orrorin tugenensis was disclosed by a an Ethiopian researcher

                      the origin of the man (French site)

                      The scientists are not all agreed if this fossil is a skeleton of a man or monkey.

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                        jonny_k
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                        The scientists are not all agreed if this fossil is a skeleton of a man or monkey.

                        Khi- Salam. Do u also believe tht we evolved from the apes? GOD Bless!

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                          marie
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                          The scientists are not all agreed if this fossil is a skeleton of a man or monkey.

                          Khi- Salam. Do u also believe tht we evolved from the apes? GOD Bless!

                          I cannot answer this question.
                          I wonder about the genetic barrier, I think it is not sufficient to invalidate this theory.

                          The God knows best

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                            Andya_Primanda
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                            Well, I challenge you to support your claim, using fossils, that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.

                            Khi- Well i showed u evidence just as u showed me urs. GOD Bless!

                            You said

                            anyone can make up n arrange fossils in a way 2 support their claim.

                            You know dinosaurs exist. Why? Because there are fossil evidence for them.

                            So far I haven't seen you arguing about the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs using fossils. Pictures of dinosaurs does not imply the coexistence of dinosaurs and man just like pictures of dragons does not imply that dragons ever coexisted with man, or exist at all.

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                              Andya_Primanda
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                              Man appeared ca. 2 million years ago.

                              A "fossil?" of 6 millions of years called Orrorin tugenensis was disclosed by a an Ethiopian researcher

                              the origin of the man (French site)

                              The scientists are not all agreed if this fossil is a skeleton of a man or monkey.

                              Thanks for the input sis Marie. By '2 million years ago' I was referring to the appearance of the genus Homo. But I am happy to acknowledge earlier species like Australopithecus or even Orrorin as worthy to be called 'man'. My yardstick is if they walk upright, then they are human.

                              Okay... so I need to change the 2 million years into 4 million years (appearacnce of Australopithecus) Or earlier. But so far the oldest direct evidence of bipedality is dated 4 million years. There had been claims of early hominins like Sahelanthropus, Orrorin, and Ardipithecus being bipedals but until I see more fossils of these extracted from the African earth I'll reserve my judgement.

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                                jonny_k
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                                You know dinosaurs exist. Why? Because there are fossil evidence for them.

                                Khi- We can show tht something existed based on fossils but we cannot proof evolution based on fossils coz we dont know tht fossil had any kids or not. Btw y dont u come out 4 a debate with Dr. Kent. Shld i phone him n ask him whether he wld be ready 2 debate u?

                                So far I haven't seen you arguing about the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs using fossils. Pictures of dinosaurs does not imply the coexistence of dinosaurs and man just like pictures of dragons does not imply that dragons ever coexisted with man, or exist at all.

                                Khi- Plz view the clip i sent u 1st. GOD Bless!

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                                  Andya_Primanda
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                                  Khi- We can show tht something existed based on fossils but we cannot proof evolution based on fossils coz we dont know tht fossil had any kids or not. Btw y dont u come out 4 a debate with Dr. Kent. Shld i phone him n ask him whether he wld be ready 2 debate u?

                                  The topic is about whether humans and dinosaurs coexisted, not so much about evolution. We know dinosaurs existed a long time ago, 200 to 63 million years ago. We know humans existed now, and back until 4 million years ago.

                                  There is evidence for dinosaurs coexisting with primitive mammals. There is evidence that humans coexisted with mammoths, sabertooth tigers, cave bears. But there is no fossil evidence that shows humans and dinosaurs coexisting.

                                  Oh, if you want to set a debate between me and Kent Hovind, go ahead! I'd love to debate him, and I prefer a web debate, correspondence style, like what we are doing now. Call him.

                                  So far I haven't seen you arguing about the coexistence of humans and dinosaurs using fossils. Pictures of dinosaurs does not imply the coexistence of dinosaurs and man just like pictures of dragons does not imply that dragons ever coexisted with man, or exist at all.

                                  Khi- Plz view the clip i sent u 1st. GOD Bless!

                                  Did that. No fossils. Only drawings, sculptures, and legends.

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                                    jonny_k
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                                    The topic is about whether humans and dinosaurs coexisted, not so much about evolution. We know dinosaurs existed a long time ago, 200 to 63 million years ago. We know humans existed now, and back until 4 million years ago.

                                    Khi- Although the age is another issue of dispute i never denied the existance of dinos.

                                    There is evidence for dinosaurs coexisting with primitive mammals. There is evidence that humans coexisted with mammoths, sabertooth tigers, cave bears. But there is no fossil evidence that shows humans and dinosaurs coexisting.

                                    Khi- Theres also evidence tht dinos coexisted with humans.

                                    Oh, if you want to set a debate between me and Kent Hovind, go ahead! I'd love to debate him, and I prefer a web debate, correspondence style, like what we are doing now. Call him.

                                    Khi- I called him. His secretary was on. Left her my name n phone no.

                                    Did that. No fossils. Only drawings, sculptures, and legends.

                                    Khi- Wht abt the footprints? Dino fprints 2gether with humans? GOD Bless!

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                                      Khi- I called him. His secretary was on. Left her my name n phone no.

                                      That should be good. Can't wait for this -). Let him come here then we can all participate in the debate.

                                      Regards,

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                                        jonny_k
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                                        That should be good. Can't wait for this -). Let him come here then we can all participate in the debate.

                                        Regards,

                                        Khi- Salam. Yes tht wld be great indeed. Hpowever i doubt tht hed be able 2 manage 2 come n debate on this forum but wht he cld do is arrange 4 one of his fellow ppl 2 come n debate. Hes a very busy man n even 2day he was out 4 a debate n so was his son Eric Hovind who will be holding a debate quite soon. GOD Bless!

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                                          unknownuser
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                                          No, problem let them come and state their creationist views so that forum members can asses it themselves and comment on it if they wish too.

                                          Regards,

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