A meditation technique.
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So god will punish himself in hellfire, that is his little pieces which is in us? or will he punish us without consiousness, or without life force? he will punish the lifeless?
peace
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"You can`t run from yourself". A saying known in modern times.
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i guess we will have to leave that to the day of judgement, you stand in front of yourself and I will inshala stand in front of my Creator, and He will judge what we dispute in.
I pray to our Sustainer to guide us both.Peace and love my brother. peace
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Technically, I don`t think you can pray for me. Prayer is to be godconscious/to remember God. That helps the individual doing it, only.
And prayers aren`t valid after judgement day.. (which has been for me.)
JD seems to be happening at around age 25, but it can vary. Maybe even as low as 15. And even animals experience it. In the west, many refer to it simply as "becoming an adult."
So, does that mean that people above 25 can
t become muslim? No, it doesnt. People who relize these truths I am telling, also realize the poetic nature of The Quran, and that it works on many levels. From simple religion, "do as told", to advanced mystical knowledge, beyond static religion.If you are a serious muslim, you have already been rejecting satan, as your time as muslim. Then you are close to these truths, and judgement day. And continue the rejection of satan, in judgement day, which is said to last a 1000 days, and you might gain insight into the deepest mystic aspects of the Quran, which I know aswell.
And you may realize that our common nature, is the key to peace, within and in the world. Disagreement is an illusion. It is only the idolater who expresses views that does not fit with ones nature.
Peace, and our celebrations.
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JD seems to be happening at around age 25, but it can vary. Maybe even as low as 15. And even animals experience it. In the west, many refer to it simply as "becoming an adult."
How can your life be judged collectively if your judged while your still alive? I believe judgement day is yet to come when ones life ends on this planet and we're all raised, assuming you take quran as a divine source of law.
PEACE
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The experience might be related to "born-again" christians aswell.
The verses in the Quran, about being destroyed, and recreated, might be about the same thinking.
Gnosis is definately about the same. Any "meeting with your Lord" type of experience.
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So god will punish himself in hellfire, that is his little pieces which is in us? or will he punish us without consiousness, or without life force? he will punish the lifeless?
peace
Don't forget, since we're all God we will first judge ourselves, weigh our life, and then decide whether we should go burn in hell or relax in heaven! laugh
I know what I'M choosing rotfl
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You will realize, not choose.
Maybe this is where we used the concept of the subconscious. The Word (Allah/consciousness) punishes.
But you might not be conscious of this.When you sleep, the world still turns. The stars are on the sky, and each atom revolves in it`s course.
And each day, people wake up to divine reality. And heaven is for the righeous, and hellfire for the wrongdoer.
And in the mean time, Gods justice is exercized. By angels or men, or demons for the lowest.
..we assign to them devils as intimate companions..
..if they harm one of you, we harm one of them..
etc..This is happening all the time. Fear God, do good.
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And you know it`s just not about punishment, but you can look for the truths stated in the Quran about angels, coming before and after you.
And other signs, in the end, all of creation ends up being a sign and verification for the existence of God, and yourself. -
Also, there is an interesting take on reincarnation that I read (maybe it was in Herman Hess's Siddartha).
It goes like this The idea of reincarnation, from a Hindu/Buddhist point of view, isn't a literal one, but a metaphor for our development as persons in this lifetime.
Certain experiences you have (maybe all experiences) change you in a manner which is irreversible. So the old you is now "dead" and a new you is "born."
You either come out as a higher being or a lower being, in a heaven or a hell, depending on you respond to that experience.I don't know how much I've added to it but that's the idea.
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Sounds like the Qurans version of "creating you, and recreating you".
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I`m going to tell you this, and you can look at it and evaluate it for yourself, just like a true buddhist should. Ahh, we are muslim. Oh well, where I am, this is all universal.
Your nick = lobster. I just posted a track, in the music thread. Sometimes I am not sure if it`s good, or if I am a crackpot. Therefore "lobster". = God tells you what is going on with me. That is one of the angels, coming AFTER me.
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Paradox Uncreated - how do you know this?
He doesn't. He's just making it up from what he's read/his opinions without any Qur'anic evidence at all. Sheer arrogance. Only Allah knows. Oh, I forgot, he IS Allah. yeah
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Allah / consciousness also seems to be the direct equivalent of the buddhistic void.
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Which can also be turned into an interesting meditation/remembrance of God.
"We are The Void that controls everything."
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We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.
Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).
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We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.
Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).
OK it's clear I'm not going to have a discussion with a point with you about this because all of this comes out a source outside the Qur'an, trading one conjecture for another, and I don't believe in anything besides the Qur'an. Silly me giveup
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The meditation technique has it`s basis in the verses in the quran, about how worshipping God correctly, protects against evil spirits.
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Possibly the best remembrance/meditation, is after recognizing divine qualities through meditation, and becomes more conscious of them, so to avoid association, one can let the meditation change to "Everything is Our Creation". The aspect of everything being created you also find in the muslim prayer, which makes this the most prioritized item of remembrance.
Godspeed.