A meditation technique.
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So god will punish himself in hellfire, that is his little pieces which is in us? or will he punish us without consiousness, or without life force? he will punish the lifeless?
peace
Don't forget, since we're all God we will first judge ourselves, weigh our life, and then decide whether we should go burn in hell or relax in heaven! laugh
I know what I'M choosing rotfl
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You will realize, not choose.
Maybe this is where we used the concept of the subconscious. The Word (Allah/consciousness) punishes.
But you might not be conscious of this.When you sleep, the world still turns. The stars are on the sky, and each atom revolves in it`s course.
And each day, people wake up to divine reality. And heaven is for the righeous, and hellfire for the wrongdoer.
And in the mean time, Gods justice is exercized. By angels or men, or demons for the lowest.
..we assign to them devils as intimate companions..
..if they harm one of you, we harm one of them..
etc..This is happening all the time. Fear God, do good.
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And you know it`s just not about punishment, but you can look for the truths stated in the Quran about angels, coming before and after you.
And other signs, in the end, all of creation ends up being a sign and verification for the existence of God, and yourself. -
Also, there is an interesting take on reincarnation that I read (maybe it was in Herman Hess's Siddartha).
It goes like this The idea of reincarnation, from a Hindu/Buddhist point of view, isn't a literal one, but a metaphor for our development as persons in this lifetime.
Certain experiences you have (maybe all experiences) change you in a manner which is irreversible. So the old you is now "dead" and a new you is "born."
You either come out as a higher being or a lower being, in a heaven or a hell, depending on you respond to that experience.I don't know how much I've added to it but that's the idea.
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Sounds like the Qurans version of "creating you, and recreating you".
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I`m going to tell you this, and you can look at it and evaluate it for yourself, just like a true buddhist should. Ahh, we are muslim. Oh well, where I am, this is all universal.
Your nick = lobster. I just posted a track, in the music thread. Sometimes I am not sure if it`s good, or if I am a crackpot. Therefore "lobster". = God tells you what is going on with me. That is one of the angels, coming AFTER me.
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Paradox Uncreated - how do you know this?
He doesn't. He's just making it up from what he's read/his opinions without any Qur'anic evidence at all. Sheer arrogance. Only Allah knows. Oh, I forgot, he IS Allah. yeah
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Allah / consciousness also seems to be the direct equivalent of the buddhistic void.
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Which can also be turned into an interesting meditation/remembrance of God.
"We are The Void that controls everything."
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We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.
Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).
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We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.
Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).
OK it's clear I'm not going to have a discussion with a point with you about this because all of this comes out a source outside the Qur'an, trading one conjecture for another, and I don't believe in anything besides the Qur'an. Silly me giveup
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The meditation technique has it`s basis in the verses in the quran, about how worshipping God correctly, protects against evil spirits.
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Possibly the best remembrance/meditation, is after recognizing divine qualities through meditation, and becomes more conscious of them, so to avoid association, one can let the meditation change to "Everything is Our Creation". The aspect of everything being created you also find in the muslim prayer, which makes this the most prioritized item of remembrance.
Godspeed.
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The meditation technique has it`s basis in the verses in the quran, about how worshipping God correctly, protects against evil spirits.
The only thing you've said that has a basis in the Qur'an is that one verse saying that Allah breathed a little of His spirit into Adam, which doesn't even support the idea that everything is God.
Bring ye evidence if you are truthful
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If there still are people who thinks I am talking about "everything is God", as sufis state, I will make it quite clear and blunt God is nothing. God is consciousness. Consciousness is Nothing. Everything is the creation of Consciousness. Matter is created, not God.
It IS unfortunate that everytime one speaks of immanence, and deep aspects of faith, that the sufis have covered it to such an extent, that everyone believes you are talking about their godconcept. I have spendt quite a bit of time, refuting that godconcept.
I believe sufism is also one of the faiths that The Quran, often is distorted to support. So for literalists, typical interpretations leads to hadithism, and for esoterics, the typical interpretation lead to sufism. Both are deviant.
Combine them both, and you have probably something like Osama Bin Laden
s faith, who is about the beloved, the beloved becomes prohpet & sahaba from hadith, hadith are innovated, hadith are often deviant, and you have the sufis love of spirits, believing that the devils god puts on them as partners, that they are gods love. And you have modern pharaoes, who crashes planes into buildings.For people who have problems with spirits, I definately recommend the first meditation, I mentioned in this thread.
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Everything is something We made up.
Btw, if you are meditating on paradox, don
t forget to release it once in a while, and just be natural. Ultimately thats what you want to do. But use it if it is a natural part of your natural action -
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The jinn and the birds.
To my understanding, jinn are creations of consciousness. However I am not sure if they are summoned or created when one thinks of them.
Creating an evil person in your mind, is creating a jinn. However it might be that this person has been created before. So it is the spirit of someone else. Evil is generally satan. "Do not follow in the footsteps of Satan". Quran.
When I say that people are jinn, it is because they follow idols, or concepts, that are non-human. But they believe them to be good. Such as the one worshipping women. This is not ones nature, which is good. Therefore a spirit.
There can be muslim jinn aswell. If one follows a spirit of benevolence, one can call that a muslim spirit.
But true islamic learning is about surrender. Dynamic behaviour according to the situation.
Consciousness, is self-sufficient. A non-material paradox. And one force, and the will in us all. And since creation does nothing on it`s own, who else do you see, that might be doing everything? Us.
The most perplexing part might be that God/consciousness, is nothing. But when one thinks about it, it makes sense. God/We are not an object. That would be vile. So there exists the uncreated, hidden, unseen. Something one that looks for an object, will never find.
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"One Paradox Without satan" is also a good meditation, to become more aware of the uncreated, good nature of God, and the created nature of satan.
Particulary sufis, and others with a pantheistic mindset (kabbalah, pantheistic buddhism), makes a fundamental mistake in thinking the created is God here.