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    High_Imam_Ismaili_Sniper
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    Paradox Uncreated - how do you know this?

    He doesn't. He's just making it up from what he's read/his opinions without any Qur'anic evidence at all. Sheer arrogance. Only Allah knows. Oh, I forgot, he IS Allah. yeah

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      Paradox_Uncreated
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      Allah / consciousness also seems to be the direct equivalent of the buddhistic void.

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        Paradox_Uncreated
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        Which can also be turned into an interesting meditation/remembrance of God.

        "We are The Void that controls everything."

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          Paradox_Uncreated
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          We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.

          Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).

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            High_Imam_Ismaili_Sniper
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            We are all the almighty God. However each of us has a jinn. And learning to see beyond the jinn, is learning to see The Good, The Compassionate.

            Recognizing transcendent qualities of God, seems to help against jinn. (Paradox, transcendence, selfsufficience, nothingness/without time space).

            OK it's clear I'm not going to have a discussion with a point with you about this because all of this comes out a source outside the Qur'an, trading one conjecture for another, and I don't believe in anything besides the Qur'an. Silly me giveup

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              Paradox_Uncreated
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              The meditation technique has it`s basis in the verses in the quran, about how worshipping God correctly, protects against evil spirits.

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                Paradox_Uncreated
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                Possibly the best remembrance/meditation, is after recognizing divine qualities through meditation, and becomes more conscious of them, so to avoid association, one can let the meditation change to "Everything is Our Creation". The aspect of everything being created you also find in the muslim prayer, which makes this the most prioritized item of remembrance.

                Godspeed.

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                  High_Imam_Ismaili_Sniper
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                  The meditation technique has it`s basis in the verses in the quran, about how worshipping God correctly, protects against evil spirits.

                  The only thing you've said that has a basis in the Qur'an is that one verse saying that Allah breathed a little of His spirit into Adam, which doesn't even support the idea that everything is God.

                  Bring ye evidence if you are truthful

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                    Paradox_Uncreated
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                    If there still are people who thinks I am talking about "everything is God", as sufis state, I will make it quite clear and blunt God is nothing. God is consciousness. Consciousness is Nothing. Everything is the creation of Consciousness. Matter is created, not God.

                    It IS unfortunate that everytime one speaks of immanence, and deep aspects of faith, that the sufis have covered it to such an extent, that everyone believes you are talking about their godconcept. I have spendt quite a bit of time, refuting that godconcept.

                    I believe sufism is also one of the faiths that The Quran, often is distorted to support. So for literalists, typical interpretations leads to hadithism, and for esoterics, the typical interpretation lead to sufism. Both are deviant.

                    Combine them both, and you have probably something like Osama Bin Ladens faith, who is about the beloved, the beloved becomes prohpet & sahaba from hadith, hadith are innovated, hadith are often deviant, and you have the sufis love of spirits, believing that the devils god puts on them as partners, that they are gods love. And you have modern pharaoes, who crashes planes into buildings.

                    For people who have problems with spirits, I definately recommend the first meditation, I mentioned in this thread.

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                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                      Everything is something We made up.

                      Btw, if you are meditating on paradox, dont forget to release it once in a while, and just be natural. Ultimately thats what you want to do. But use it if it is a natural part of your natural action

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                        phoenix1
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                        Paradox Uncreated -

                        What is a jinn?

                        And what is consciousness?

                        I feel that while the words you use are simple, the concepts you are relating are quite complex. So I would like a more thorough explanation of your views and how you can verify them.

                        Peace

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                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                          The jinn and the birds.

                          To my understanding, jinn are creations of consciousness. However I am not sure if they are summoned or created when one thinks of them.

                          Creating an evil person in your mind, is creating a jinn. However it might be that this person has been created before. So it is the spirit of someone else. Evil is generally satan. "Do not follow in the footsteps of Satan". Quran.

                          When I say that people are jinn, it is because they follow idols, or concepts, that are non-human. But they believe them to be good. Such as the one worshipping women. This is not ones nature, which is good. Therefore a spirit.

                          There can be muslim jinn aswell. If one follows a spirit of benevolence, one can call that a muslim spirit.

                          But true islamic learning is about surrender. Dynamic behaviour according to the situation.

                          Consciousness, is self-sufficient. A non-material paradox. And one force, and the will in us all. And since creation does nothing on it`s own, who else do you see, that might be doing everything? Us.

                          The most perplexing part might be that God/consciousness, is nothing. But when one thinks about it, it makes sense. God/We are not an object. That would be vile. So there exists the uncreated, hidden, unseen. Something one that looks for an object, will never find.

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                            Paradox_Uncreated
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                            "One Paradox Without satan" is also a good meditation, to become more aware of the uncreated, good nature of God, and the created nature of satan.

                            Particulary sufis, and others with a pantheistic mindset (kabbalah, pantheistic buddhism), makes a fundamental mistake in thinking the created is God here.

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                              Paradox_Uncreated
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                              Meditating on the ownership of the universe also seems good. That is a theme in the Quran aswell. God owns the universe, not is the universe.

                              So with regards to immanence, meditation becomes "We own the universe".

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                                Paradox_Uncreated
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                                Changing the meditation from "I am paradox" or "we are paradox" to "one paradox" also works.
                                For instance, "One Paradox, without time and space"
                                Maybe particulary for those who hasn`t accepted the teachings on immanence yet, or feel like varying the meditation.

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                                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                                  As I meditate and go through stages with this meditation, I seem to center around certain concepts in the prayer. So that is probably the ultimate.

                                  In prayer you also have the concept of one creator. The prayer contains probably the concepts most important to faith, and is concentrated knowledge.

                                  Meditate on "One paradox, creates everything".

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                                    Paradox_Uncreated
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                                    http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

                                    Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

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                                      http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

                                      Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

                                      Isn't this exactly what Anton Lavey believed about god? God is just the all pervading force in the uni/multiverse that makes all things go?

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                                        Paradox_Uncreated
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                                        Tricky question Captainneckbeard. I have little knowledge of satansim. To some satanism is about using ones intelligence. To some it is believing one is God. Even atheists have proponents of this, but to word it like Sartre "if nothing is equated with being, God is no longer needed (and the universe can be created from nothing). It doesn`t really matter what people call their faith. If they indeed have a single force that drives the universe, that equates God.

                                        When I think about Laveyan satanism, I think about statements like "you should masturbate in satanic mass, to harness power". This sounds closer to the quranic concept of satanism, where satan follows his desire. What he means by harnessing power, is that which defiles humans. Pure satanism seems like compromisation of human nature. That can be public masturbation, or any other offensive thing. A lot of sexual innuendo can be seen in modern consumer culture. That is also satanic.

                                        That they mix this with true divine concepts, is what the Quran calls "association with God", and punishable by hellfire.

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                                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                                          I have now perfected this technique. Please read paradox-meditation, on my www.

                                          Peace.

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