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    Paradox_Uncreated
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    If there still are people who thinks I am talking about "everything is God", as sufis state, I will make it quite clear and blunt God is nothing. God is consciousness. Consciousness is Nothing. Everything is the creation of Consciousness. Matter is created, not God.

    It IS unfortunate that everytime one speaks of immanence, and deep aspects of faith, that the sufis have covered it to such an extent, that everyone believes you are talking about their godconcept. I have spendt quite a bit of time, refuting that godconcept.

    I believe sufism is also one of the faiths that The Quran, often is distorted to support. So for literalists, typical interpretations leads to hadithism, and for esoterics, the typical interpretation lead to sufism. Both are deviant.

    Combine them both, and you have probably something like Osama Bin Ladens faith, who is about the beloved, the beloved becomes prohpet & sahaba from hadith, hadith are innovated, hadith are often deviant, and you have the sufis love of spirits, believing that the devils god puts on them as partners, that they are gods love. And you have modern pharaoes, who crashes planes into buildings.

    For people who have problems with spirits, I definately recommend the first meditation, I mentioned in this thread.

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      Paradox_Uncreated
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      Everything is something We made up.

      Btw, if you are meditating on paradox, dont forget to release it once in a while, and just be natural. Ultimately thats what you want to do. But use it if it is a natural part of your natural action

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        phoenix1
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        Paradox Uncreated -

        What is a jinn?

        And what is consciousness?

        I feel that while the words you use are simple, the concepts you are relating are quite complex. So I would like a more thorough explanation of your views and how you can verify them.

        Peace

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          Paradox_Uncreated
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          The jinn and the birds.

          To my understanding, jinn are creations of consciousness. However I am not sure if they are summoned or created when one thinks of them.

          Creating an evil person in your mind, is creating a jinn. However it might be that this person has been created before. So it is the spirit of someone else. Evil is generally satan. "Do not follow in the footsteps of Satan". Quran.

          When I say that people are jinn, it is because they follow idols, or concepts, that are non-human. But they believe them to be good. Such as the one worshipping women. This is not ones nature, which is good. Therefore a spirit.

          There can be muslim jinn aswell. If one follows a spirit of benevolence, one can call that a muslim spirit.

          But true islamic learning is about surrender. Dynamic behaviour according to the situation.

          Consciousness, is self-sufficient. A non-material paradox. And one force, and the will in us all. And since creation does nothing on it`s own, who else do you see, that might be doing everything? Us.

          The most perplexing part might be that God/consciousness, is nothing. But when one thinks about it, it makes sense. God/We are not an object. That would be vile. So there exists the uncreated, hidden, unseen. Something one that looks for an object, will never find.

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            Paradox_Uncreated
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            "One Paradox Without satan" is also a good meditation, to become more aware of the uncreated, good nature of God, and the created nature of satan.

            Particulary sufis, and others with a pantheistic mindset (kabbalah, pantheistic buddhism), makes a fundamental mistake in thinking the created is God here.

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              Paradox_Uncreated
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              Meditating on the ownership of the universe also seems good. That is a theme in the Quran aswell. God owns the universe, not is the universe.

              So with regards to immanence, meditation becomes "We own the universe".

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                Paradox_Uncreated
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                Changing the meditation from "I am paradox" or "we are paradox" to "one paradox" also works.
                For instance, "One Paradox, without time and space"
                Maybe particulary for those who hasn`t accepted the teachings on immanence yet, or feel like varying the meditation.

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                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                  As I meditate and go through stages with this meditation, I seem to center around certain concepts in the prayer. So that is probably the ultimate.

                  In prayer you also have the concept of one creator. The prayer contains probably the concepts most important to faith, and is concentrated knowledge.

                  Meditate on "One paradox, creates everything".

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                    Paradox_Uncreated
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                    http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

                    Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

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                      http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

                      Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

                      Isn't this exactly what Anton Lavey believed about god? God is just the all pervading force in the uni/multiverse that makes all things go?

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                        Tricky question Captainneckbeard. I have little knowledge of satansim. To some satanism is about using ones intelligence. To some it is believing one is God. Even atheists have proponents of this, but to word it like Sartre "if nothing is equated with being, God is no longer needed (and the universe can be created from nothing). It doesn`t really matter what people call their faith. If they indeed have a single force that drives the universe, that equates God.

                        When I think about Laveyan satanism, I think about statements like "you should masturbate in satanic mass, to harness power". This sounds closer to the quranic concept of satanism, where satan follows his desire. What he means by harnessing power, is that which defiles humans. Pure satanism seems like compromisation of human nature. That can be public masturbation, or any other offensive thing. A lot of sexual innuendo can be seen in modern consumer culture. That is also satanic.

                        That they mix this with true divine concepts, is what the Quran calls "association with God", and punishable by hellfire.

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                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                          I have now perfected this technique. Please read paradox-meditation, on my www.

                          Peace.

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                            Iznagen
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                            Am I the only here who believes that Paradox Uncreated follows really a mix of Satanism and Sufism ?

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                              Paradox_Uncreated
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                              This is purely about monotheism. It is if anything AGAINST satanism (polytheism). And since sufism is pantheism it is also AGAINST sufism. It may resemble sufism, but it is better, and based on gnostic insights and the Quran. (All religion is based on gnostic insights, but the Quran also deals with the Abrahamic heritage.)

                              Peace.

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                                Am I the only here who believes that Paradox Uncreated follows really a mix of Satanism and Sufism ?

                                No, I think you are not the only one... )

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                                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                                  Satan follows his desire, where do I talk about this? Now, I took my site down for maintenance, but we can discuss this later. And where is the sufism?

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                                    Iznagen
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                                    Satan follows his desire, where do I talk about this? Now, I took my site down for maintenance, but we can discuss this later. And where is the sufism?

                                    Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

                                    Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong.

                                    One of the three.

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                                      Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

                                      Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong.

                                      One of the three.

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                                      Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

                                      Not a single one has been able to provide an answer to this verse. Tell me what it says, please do!

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                                        {35}
                                        Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

                                        Not a single one has been able to provide an answer to this verse. Tell me what it says, please do!

                                        The verse says that Allah is the light of the Heavens and the earth, as you highlighted. I do not see where you are going. Perhaps you are going to enlighten me (on how this verse relates to Pantheism), O Wise IAMOP!

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                                          IAMOP
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                                          The verse says that Allah is the light of the Heavens and the earth, as you highlighted. I do not see where you are going. Perhaps you are going to enlighten me (on how this verse relates to Pantheism), O Wise IAMOP!

                                          It is a direct statement that ALLAH is the light of the heavens and the earth.

                                          THEN it goes on to say "a parable/likeness/metaphor". So we know that ALLAH is literally the light.

                                          There is no room to argue here, surely the truth is clear.

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