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    Paradox_Uncreated
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    Changing the meditation from "I am paradox" or "we are paradox" to "one paradox" also works.
    For instance, "One Paradox, without time and space"
    Maybe particulary for those who hasn`t accepted the teachings on immanence yet, or feel like varying the meditation.

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      Paradox_Uncreated
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      As I meditate and go through stages with this meditation, I seem to center around certain concepts in the prayer. So that is probably the ultimate.

      In prayer you also have the concept of one creator. The prayer contains probably the concepts most important to faith, and is concentrated knowledge.

      Meditate on "One paradox, creates everything".

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        Paradox_Uncreated
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        http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

        Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

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          http//paradoxuncreated.com/theology.html

          Updated the lowest part, with the most interesting meditations I went through these last years. It seems to be settlings around these concepts. I will ofcourse update it again, if anything significant evolves.

          Isn't this exactly what Anton Lavey believed about god? God is just the all pervading force in the uni/multiverse that makes all things go?

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            Paradox_Uncreated
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            Tricky question Captainneckbeard. I have little knowledge of satansim. To some satanism is about using ones intelligence. To some it is believing one is God. Even atheists have proponents of this, but to word it like Sartre "if nothing is equated with being, God is no longer needed (and the universe can be created from nothing). It doesn`t really matter what people call their faith. If they indeed have a single force that drives the universe, that equates God.

            When I think about Laveyan satanism, I think about statements like "you should masturbate in satanic mass, to harness power". This sounds closer to the quranic concept of satanism, where satan follows his desire. What he means by harnessing power, is that which defiles humans. Pure satanism seems like compromisation of human nature. That can be public masturbation, or any other offensive thing. A lot of sexual innuendo can be seen in modern consumer culture. That is also satanic.

            That they mix this with true divine concepts, is what the Quran calls "association with God", and punishable by hellfire.

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              Paradox_Uncreated
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              I have now perfected this technique. Please read paradox-meditation, on my www.

              Peace.

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                Iznagen
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                Am I the only here who believes that Paradox Uncreated follows really a mix of Satanism and Sufism ?

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                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                  This is purely about monotheism. It is if anything AGAINST satanism (polytheism). And since sufism is pantheism it is also AGAINST sufism. It may resemble sufism, but it is better, and based on gnostic insights and the Quran. (All religion is based on gnostic insights, but the Quran also deals with the Abrahamic heritage.)

                  Peace.

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                    Am I the only here who believes that Paradox Uncreated follows really a mix of Satanism and Sufism ?

                    No, I think you are not the only one... )

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                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                      Satan follows his desire, where do I talk about this? Now, I took my site down for maintenance, but we can discuss this later. And where is the sufism?

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                        Iznagen
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                        Satan follows his desire, where do I talk about this? Now, I took my site down for maintenance, but we can discuss this later. And where is the sufism?

                        Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

                        Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong.

                        One of the three.

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                          Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

                          Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong.

                          One of the three.

                          {35}
                          Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

                          Not a single one has been able to provide an answer to this verse. Tell me what it says, please do!

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                            {35}
                            Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

                            Not a single one has been able to provide an answer to this verse. Tell me what it says, please do!

                            The verse says that Allah is the light of the Heavens and the earth, as you highlighted. I do not see where you are going. Perhaps you are going to enlighten me (on how this verse relates to Pantheism), O Wise IAMOP!

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                              IAMOP
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                              The verse says that Allah is the light of the Heavens and the earth, as you highlighted. I do not see where you are going. Perhaps you are going to enlighten me (on how this verse relates to Pantheism), O Wise IAMOP!

                              It is a direct statement that ALLAH is the light of the heavens and the earth.

                              THEN it goes on to say "a parable/likeness/metaphor". So we know that ALLAH is literally the light.

                              There is no room to argue here, surely the truth is clear.

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                                Iznagen
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                                It is a direct statement that ALLAH is the light of the heavens and the earth.

                                THEN it goes on to say "a parable/likeness/metaphor". So we know that ALLAH is literally the light.

                                There is no room to argue here, surely the truth is clear.

                                I might be slow, after all, I am not a messenger like you and I do not communicate with higher forces (Ashtar commands, remember? ) but please, do share your wisdom and explain how Allah being the light of the Heavens and the Earth relates to Pantheism ?

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                                  IAMOP
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                                  There are no isms. ALLH is the light! So we know that ALLH is tangible. As opposed to an invisible unseen force that pulls the strings, ALLH is in front of our faces.

                                  How does it relate to Pantheism? Rather it's the reverse. Pantheism comes from the knowledge that ALLH is the light of the heavens and earth as far as I am aware.

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                                    Prince
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                                    It is a direct statement that ALLAH is the light of the heavens and the earth.

                                    THEN it goes on to say "a parable/likeness/metaphor". So we know that ALLAH is literally the light.

                                    There is no room to argue here, surely the truth is clear.

                                    If you don't cross reference verses about Allah you will reach a faulty conclusion like you have. This is because your view contradicts other verses such as

                                    1. There is nothing like unto Him - 4211
                                    2. There is nothing that can be compared with Him - 1124

                                    The verse in question alludes to a metaphor of Allah since He is incomprehensible to imagine hence the metaphors of Him in the Quran. Soon as we start defining what Allah is He is not that - we can only experience Him through His attributes described in the Quran.

                                    If you wish to still hold onto the view of Him LITERALLY being light how do you resolve the contradiction of the two above verses I've quoted?

                                    PEACE

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                                      Prince
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                                      Paradox Uncreated, I remember you from Facebook, where you tried to sell us the lie that Qu'ran supports pantheism and that everything is Allah and Allah is everything. Now, this is very similar to Sufism, isn't it? Modern Satanists (belief developed by LaVeyen) believe that they are their own Gods, which relates to your speech that everything is Allah and Allah is everything.

                                      Perhaps you changed your view over time, or you are a skillful devil always seeking better ways to deceive or, simply, we all just read you wrong.

                                      One of the three.

                                      In my opinion the Quran supports something called Panentheism...slightly different to Pantheism which supports God is the whole where Panentheism is the whole is in God but God is greater and exists beyond the whole - a paradox i know This in my opinion is what I believe the Quran supports more of since God is everywhere yet separate and beyond/greater than everywhere. -\

                                      PEACE

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                                        IAMOP
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                                        Peace,

                                        Do you see any contradiction?

                                        ALLH is telling us ALLH is the light of the heavens and the earth

                                        ALLH is telling us There is no likeness unto him

                                        Now let us refer to the beginning of chapter 24

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                                        (This is) a chapter which We have revealed and made obligatory and in which We have revealed clear communications that you may be mindful.

                                        Then back to verse 35

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                                        Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth; a likeness of His light is as a niche in which is a lamp, the lamp is in a glass, (and) the glass is as it were a brightly shining star, lit from a blessed olive-tree, neither eastern nor western, the oil whereof almost gives light though fire touch it not-- light upon light-- Allah guides to His light whom He pleases, and Allah sets forth parables for men, and Allah is Cognizant of all things.

                                        This is a direct statement followed by a metaphor.

                                        It is not me that is defining ALLH, keep in mind it is ALLH defining ALLH and who else can!

                                        Physical light (photons) is not the same thing as nur. Nur = energy. Energy possesses all the attributes of ALLH; ALLH IS energy.

                                        Peace

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                                          And how about nothing can be compared with Him 1124 which you have done stating He is the light literally. Is it a coincidence Allah tells us in the same verse that He sets parables for us. What would be the point of a parable if its something literal as you say.

                                          A parable is given to help us understand something is beyond the literal meaning. Allah is beyond light literally as nothing is like Him or can be compared to Him as per the verses I've quoted. You are still yet to reconcile those verses with what you are proposing.

                                          PEACE

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