Sinning because of Someone else
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This is a very complex issue.
We must be aware of one thing first and foremost, that no human knows the secrets of another human's heart. And that ALLAH alone encompasses all of our hearts.
Salaam
Exactly and when it came to munafiqun even prophet Mohammad could not recognize them and he was informed by God not to be swayed by the speech of a munafiq, whereas some people seem to know from medi hype the secrets of Al-Qaida, a group invented by Mossad/CIA whose members are mercenaries trained to do the dirty job. Despite being warned in the Quran to be aware of the munafiq and to investigagte news before accepting them as true many just swallow whatever media throws at them. Sad state of affairs brickwall -
This is a very complex issue.
We must be aware of one thing first and foremost, that no human knows the secrets of another human's heart. And that ALLAH alone encompasses all of our hearts.
Very true, thus why we are basically assuming as it has been stating before that the Munafiq is very dangerous as he pretends to be a full muslim but in reality he is a kaffir. Thus it is only a theory of the leader of Al Qaeda being a Munafiq by saying we fight for Islam but he really being a Kaffir and having different plans all together.
Salaam
Exactly and when it came to munafiqun even prophet Mohammad could not recognize them and he was informed by God not to be swayed by the speech of a munafiq, whereas some people seem to know from medi hype the secrets of Al-Qaida, a group invented by Mossad/CIA whose members are mercenaries trained to do the dirty job. Despite being warned in the Quran to be aware of the munafiq and to investigagte news before accepting them as true many just swallow whatever media throws at them. Sad state of affairs brickwallNow now don't bring up controversial matters like the group Al Qaeda being invented by the CIA. peace Regardless we don't know if they truly are Munafiqs or not. They could just be very radically interpreting things as the Wahabi's that they are. Thus they believe, but are quite astray as a result.
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Now now don't bring up controversial matters like the group Al Qaeda being invented by the CIA. peace Regardless we don't know if they truly are Munafiqs or not. They could just be very radically interpreting things as the Wahabi's that they are. Thus they believe, but are quite astray as a result.
We have all know about Taliban and so called mujahideen, jamat Isalami and other once called fundamentilist but when did you first hear about Al-Qaida and how many member of Al-Qaida were know to you prior to 9/11?
If you follow Quran only then did you investigate about origin, ideology and member of Al-Qaida before you stated talking about them if not then don't repeat what you only learn from mass media. OK -
We have all know about Taliban and so called mujahideen, jamat Isalami and other once called fundamentilist but when did you first hear about Al-Qaida and how many member of Al-Qaida were know to you prior to 9/11?
If you follow Quran only then did you investigate about origin, ideology and member of Al-Qaida before you stated talking about them if not then don't repeat what you only learn from mass media. OKI'm just saying don't bring in controversial matters as there is facts for both sides of the argument
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I'm just saying don't bring in controversial matters as there is facts for both sides of the argument
You started talking about Al-Qaida in reply 13 above but when questioned about your knowledge you called it a controversial matter &
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You started talking about Al-Qaida in reply 13 above but when questioned about your knowledge you called it a controversial matter &
Are you scared of upsetting someone much powerfull than God?O_o you are bringing in a political matter of CIA being in charge of Al Qaeda. I was simply referring to the possibility of the leaders actually be Kaffirs or Munafiqs.
Geez calm yourself dude, we are talking religion not politics
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O_o you are bringing in a political matter of CIA being in charge of Al Qaeda. I was simply referring to the possibility of the leaders actually be Kaffirs or Munafiqs.
Geez calm yourself dude, we are talking religion not politics
There are plenty of kafir around why talk of Al-Qaida, by doing so you made this discussion political as Al-Qaida is a political tool to fool masses.
Yes it does make me angry when those who claim to follow Quran do not investigate but forward the propoganda further.
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There are plenty of kafir around why talk of Al-Qaida, by doing so you made this discussion political as Al-Qaida is a political tool to fool masses.
Yes it does make me angry when those who claim to follow Quran do not investigate but forward the propoganda further.
SalaamAh geez dude that was just a popular example for something modern.. sigh fine if you wanna get political, we'll get political about whether Al Qaeda is American runned or not. GO!
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Setting priorities
*Thus if your boss won't allow you to pray, and you deliberately have to miss your prayers, Quitting your Job is a Must. God is the best provider
*If a thousand people do wrong and invite you to do wrong, their number will not mellow down righteousness (Consequently God tells the bad is not the same as the good, even if the bad outnumbers 1005) (i.e don't do bad just because many are doing bad)May the Lord God Protect us & save us from sinning and stumbling off his path pr
~peace peaceSalaam Youssef
Before this gets a little out of hand (although interesting direction this thread is taking).
I must disagree a little with your comment above
#If someone's profession makes it absolutely impossible to perform a ritual prayer as we know it then we do not need to quit our job. Without any reference to the Quran I am still of the stern belief that Allah forgives us if we do not park the, for example ambulance, to do our contact prayer.
#We can fold to peer pressure if it is for the greater good, again I do not have Quranic reference but it is a reference to the sunnah of a muslim. When I converted to islam many of my friends turned their backs to me. The only way I could "win" them back was to show them that I was the same old Emil that I was before and I hadn't turned into a Taliban. I knew the easiest way I could get them to accept my conversion was to get drunk, so I did....We went out for a night on the town....After that they have listened to me, they have a greater understanding of islam and they do not longer see a dude with a "Muhammed beard" as a taliban. Furthermore they respect my decision to abstain from alcohol.
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Ah geez dude that was just a popular example for something modern.. sigh fine if you wanna get political, we'll get political about whether Al Qaeda is American runned or not. GO!
Salaam
I am sorry dude this was not a popular example but yes right one when talking of munafuqoon.
I have no desire to get political I am only talking from Islamic point of view which is to investigate before accepting news flying around. Blindly accepting what ever comes through popular mass media has already done lot of demage to many ignorant so called muslims. CIA and Mossads are todays reality so do not take them as just names they are working hard for their own agenda so you work hard for yours or you will be left far behind.
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Peace Emil peace
Well, as for my theology, i think setting priorities is a key. I would think that God should be set as your first priority. If you are hindered to do your salat while standing, riding, or walking then that's a problem (overlooking medical reasons etc.)Also, by bad/wrong i would think i ment to do something intentionally bad (e.g stealing, spreading rumers, being evil/bad in nature).
As for your personal example, there is a difference, your intention was good. I could cite you the example of Jesus who some jews thought of him as "breaking" the sabbath, by doing something Good(healing).May the Lord God resolve our desputes pr
Blessed is God, The king, the Holy, the Peace yay
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Salaam
I am sorry dude this was not a popular example but yes right one when talking of munafuqoon.
I have no desire to get political I am only talking from Islamic point of view which is to investigate before accepting news flying around. Blindly accepting what ever comes through popular mass media has already done lot of demage to many ignorant so called muslims. CIA and Mossads are todays reality so do not take them as just names they are working hard for their own agenda so you work hard for yours or you will be left far behind.
They plot so does Allah plot, Allah is the best of the planner (not exact words) peaceWell i'm not against what you say there as I look into politics heavily myself, though I don't think the CIA and Al Qaeda are working together but I have reasons for that. Regardless not the place to really talk about those though.
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Peace Emil peace
Well, as for my theology, i think setting priorities is a key. I would think that God should be set as your first priority. If you are hindered to do your salat while standing, riding, or walking then that's a problem (overlooking medical reasons etc.)Also, by bad/wrong i would think i ment to do something intentionally bad (e.g stealing, spreading rumers, being evil/bad in nature).
As for your personal example, there is a difference, your intention was good. I could cite you the example of Jesus who some jews thought of him as "breaking" the sabbath, by doing something Good(healing).May the Lord God resolve our desputes pr
Blessed is God, The king, the Holy, the Peace yay
~Peace peaceSalaam Youssef
Ok, I understand you now, sorry for the disagreement peace
Emil
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Well i'm not against what you say there as I look into politics heavily myself, though I don't think the CIA and Al Qaeda are working together but I have reasons for that. Regardless not the place to really talk about those though.
Please do ask some arabic speaking person what is the meaning of Al-Qaida and also if CIA not with Al-Qida then did you know CIA working as diplomat too
Davis, whom President Obama once called ?our diplomat,? was charged with murder after he shot dead two motorcyclists the contractor said were trying to rob him while he drove through Lahore in broad daylight. The United States claimed diplomatic immunity for Davis, although it later emerged that his direct employer was the CIA, for which he performed security functions in the Pakistani city.
http//www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/pakistan-seeks-an-update-on-raymond-davis/2011/10/05/gIQA07K1NL_blog.html?hpid=z3