"Hebrew", the Children of Israel, and the Semitic Migrations
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Salaam Pazuzu and thank you for the lastest post sun
BTW we are not the only one discussing Hebrew
Israeli Ambassador Daniel Taub was formally welcomed to the UK by the Queen at a Buckingham Palace ceremony........
"They discussed the miracle of the revival of the Hebrew language in Israel, ........"
http//www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/58505/israeli-ambassador-meets-queen
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Salam Bro pazuzu,
you are to be given credit that you are a great story teller...
and this quality is added poignancy that what you write is very important, and seems overwhelmingly to have genuine substance to it...
it reads like a good historical thriller too... ;D
now a little bit off beat, I wish to inquire with you about Jesus of Nazareth (Yeshua)... if he is not the Isa of the Quran (so Esau son of Miriam in Yemen, in fact)...
is he (Yeshua) actually the Prophet referred to as Al Yasa'a in the Quran?
another thing, is the the Bible Book of Isaiah actually the Injeel (Evangile in French),
so the true Gospel (i.e. which was found in the Qumran caves in the Dead Sea Scrolls as being the most correct version)- and that Issaiah (Al Yassa'a) was just following and enforcing what was revealed to Esau in the past? (the Gospel of Esau, with Jesus of Palestine being attributed it by "malice", whereas he was just the Gospel follower/enforcer in Palestine?)...
that means the Injeel (revealed by Allah to Esau of Yemen) was already available well before the Jesus of Palestine?
Thanks in advance
Peace
Nabil
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Thank you Pazuzu!
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Hi Pazuzu
You say
Has anyone EVER heard of Egypt being described as a "tribe" or a "clan"?
If you look at the original Aramaic text of Zecheriah, it says ?Mishfaht Misrim?. The word ?Mishfaht? is an Aramaic word meaning TRIBE.
Since I do not have the original text of Zecheriah, I went directly to an Aramaic online dictionary http//www.atour.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?string=m%27shfaht&B1=Search&Search_Field=Meaning&VTI-GROUP=0
and searched for the word "Mishfaht" with all possible spellings but found nothing.
Can you please make sure of the spelling?I also searched for the word "tribe" and found "B'SHaB,+aA"in some lexicons and "B'SHaRB'T,aA" in others; and in some it is simply " SHaB,+eA" (Arabic Sha'b)!
"Mishfaht", howevr, sounds like "safh", taking into consideration that the "S" in Arabic is an alteration of the sound "Sh" in Hebrew at least. Safh is the bottom of the mountain and could mean "valley".Egypt shows as (B'MeTSReYN) with variation of the first B as M or L.
So even "Misrim" is not a correct spelling. -
The actual pronunciation is "mishpaht" (with a "P'
If you look in the "Hebrew" text of Zecheria, you can see the following word
Spell it out. It's "mishpaht" Aparently, the so-called "Hebrew" (which stole the squared Aramaic letters) replaced the letter "f" in the Semitic alphabet with the letter "p". But the correct pronunciation is "Mishfaht". This confusion came as a result of the Zionists infusing this FAKE language with a distinctly German dialect, and then coming out to the world with their claim that it was the revived and "Divine Tongue".
The truth of the matter is, if I showed you the similarities between this "Hebrew" and the ancient Yemeni dialect, you will not believe your eyes. Everythng from the conjugation of the verbs, to the single/plural atricles, to the hundreds of words common between the two, indicates that they originated in the same region. What we call "Hebrew" today is nothing but an ancient Yemeni dialect that uses SQUARED ARAMAIC as the vehicle for its writing, and is infused with hundreds of Arabic and Yiddish (German rural) terms. The expert liguists in the Semitic tongue have confirmed this (see the works of Salibi, Moscati, Rossi, Fadhel al Rubay'i - among others).
This joke that they have passed on humanity must be exposed here and now.
Now here's what you can do If you have Word 2010, just copy/paste , as it is, and click on "translate" (Hebrew - English).
You will get FAMILY.
Hence, the passage in Zechariah is mentioning the Family of "Egypt". In some translations of the Torah, it was rendered as Clan of "Egypt".
Now, the word "Egypt" was the one that replaced the original in the so-called "Hebrew" text.
Again, you can spell it out
= mem (m)
= tzade (tz)
= resh (r)
= yod (i or y)
- mem (as it appears when it comes at the end of a word)
So it's MTZRIM That's exactly how they pronounce it.
But why is that? Why not "Msrim" ? That is because the EUROPEAN KHAZARS who are the real Jews of today, could not pronounce the heavy 's' sound of the Yemeni Semitic language which they STOLE, so they replaced it with "tz".
You don't believe me?Go to this "Hebrew" alphabet and see the order of the letters a - b - g - d - h - w - z - h - t' - k - l - m - n - s - 3 - p - tz - q - r - sh - t.
You see those two letters in bold?
If you look at the alphabet of Arabic, which is the proto-Semitic tongue, you will find that same order of letters, exactly as it appears in their alleged "Hebrew" (minus 6 letters which do not appear in Hebrew).
Again look at the two bold letters and .
These are pronounced as "f" and "sadd" (the heavy 's' sound).
The Jews replaced "f" and "sadd" with "p" and "tz"
So now you know what I meant when I said "msirm".
And no, it does not mean "Valley", because that would not fit in the context of the OT passage
"And if the family/clan of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles" (Zecherian 141
How can a valley "go" and "come" about and "keep the feast of tabernacles" ?
Moreover, I have already shown you that Msrim is the PLURAL of Msr. And it's the proper name of a family or clan that Joseph lived among. And this the same clan that Moses was later raised brought up in. And the head of this clan was called Far3oun, and his wife raised Moses when he was a child. And this was the same clan from which Abraham married. The Torah says that Hagar was from the land of MSRM.
And it has nothing to do with Egypt whatsoever.
Soon I will reveal to you who this clan was (if you haven't figured it out already).
@theNabster
I will answer you in a PM if you don't mind, because this thread is not about Jesus.
Peace...
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@theNabster
I will answer you in a PM if you don't mind, because this thread is not about Jesus.
Peace...
Salaam, Pazuzu,
Couldn't you publish it in the thread on 3isa?
Actually I would also like to know and I suppose there are more peole that would like to know.
Thanks,
Salaam
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Moreover, I have already shown you that Msrim is the PLURAL of Msr. And it's the proper name of a family or clan that Joseph lived among. And this the same clan that Moses was later raised brought up in. And the head of this clan was called Far3oun, and his wife raised Moses when he was a child. And this was the same clan from which Abraham married. The Torah says that Hagar was from the land of MSRM.
And it has nothing to do with Egypt whatsoever.
Soon I will reveal to you who this clan was (if you haven't figured it out already).
Peace Pazuzu,
You keep perpetual posting which clearly contradicts Qur'an and running away much like the numerology infatuated who keep posting multiples never respond to a thing. Qur'an clearly says they are separate peoples...
7120 and fell down the magicians prostrating
7121 they said we believe in Lord the creations
7122 Lord Moses and Aaron
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7127 and said the chiefs from nation Pharaoh you leave Moses and his nation to cause corruption in the earth and forsake you and your gods said we will kill their sons and will let live their women/females and indeed over them subjugatorsBTW, on the stealing/borrowing part, in Arabic or Semitic no "p" sound so they use "f" instead as in "feel" elephant initially of Persian origin same as other borrowed words like The Romans. Simply look up the history of chess piece elephant/bishop still today in Spanish called alfil...
Chess first called Shatranj referenced by Hindu ambassador who came to Persia from India during reign of Naushirawan (Chosroes I, 531 - 579 CE) which afterwards the game spread to Arabs.
http//www.chessvariants.org/piececlopedia.dir/alfil.html
"As Murray reports in his Short History of Chess, the game hardly changed when the Muslims got it from the Persians. So the Persian pil lept two spaces diagonally. Murray reports in the same book that the Muslims merely modified the name of the piece to suit their own pronunciation, changing the p to an f for the word fil, which became the piece's Arab name. This got prefixed with the Arabic definite article, al, to form the name Alfil.
When the names of fil and alfil reached Europe, they sometimes changed even more, but the transformed names eventually became associated with the Bishop. Although the name of Alfil is still used for the Bishop in some languages, such as Spanish, English-speakers began the tradition of reserving the name Alfil for the original piece."
http//history.chess.free.fr/images/shatranj/fil-7-8th-mma.jpg
Fil (Elephant/Bishop), origin unknown (Iran, Irak, India?), 7th-8th c.?, The Metropolitan Museum of Art
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Peace Pazuzu,
You keep perpetual posting which clearly contradicts Qur'an and running away much like the numerology infatuated who keep posting multiples never respond to a thing. Qur'an clearly says they are separate peoples...
727 and said the chiefs from nation Pharaoh you leave Moses and his nation to cause corruption in the earth and forsake you and your gods said we will kill their sons and will let live their women/females and indeed over them subjugators
Salaam NDP
Thank you for posting the above surah and I note that here is mentioned the "Chief" from the nation of Musa, which could give us a further clue as to whether there were Chiefs, as well as a Fir3an who were involved in managing the affairs of Msr, and was the King(Malik) of the story of Yousaff but the chief, ie Governor of some part of Msr. hmm -
Salaam NDP
Thank you for posting the above surah and I note that here is mentioned the "Chief" from the nation of Musa, which could give us a further clue as to whether there were Chiefs, as well as a Fir3an who were involved in managing the affairs of Msr, and was the King(Malik) of the story of Yousaff but the chief, ie Governor of some part of Msr. hmmSalaam IMHO,
727 and said the chiefs from nation Pharaoh
Not sure what you are assuming or asking; perhaps post in other thread.
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Salaam IMHO,
727 and said the chiefs from nation Pharaoh
Not sure what you are assuming or asking; perhaps post in other thread.
Sorry my mistake, I meant to say the "Chief" from the nation of Pharaoh.
A as the chief is mentioned as one from the nation of Fir3un does that mean there was Pharoah as well as other authorites like Malik who managed local affairs as in the case of Yousaff(as) there is no Pharoah but Malik of Msr so is Mal'ah same as Al Malik? peace -
Sorry my mistake, I meant to say the "Chief" from the nation of Pharaoh.
A as the chief is mentioned as one from the nation of Fir3un does that mean there was Pharoah as well as other authorites like Malik who managed local affairs as in the case of Yousaff(as) there is no Pharoah but Malik of Msr so is Mal'ah same as Al Malik? peace386 and went forth the chiefs (i.e. advisors/religious leaders etc.)
1243 and said the king indeed seen seven cows fat eating them seven skinny ones and seven ears (of corn) green and other dry O you the chiefs explain to me in my vision indeed/if you are to/of visions interpret
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Salam Bro pazuzu,
@theNabster
I will answer you in a PM if you don't mind, because this thread is not about Jesus.
Peace...
jazakallah alf khair
Salam Bro IMHO
Salaam, Pazuzu,
Couldn't you publish it in the thread on 3isa?
Actually I would also like to know and I suppose there are more peole that would like to know.
Thanks,
Salaam
Don't we love it, when we become thirsty for knowledge
Peace
Nabil theNabster
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Noon dhe plume, peace,
you are still at it, trying to shut out Bro pazuzu...
You are entitled to post, but those like me are entitled to ignore you, as we wish to read all pazuzu wishes and feels important to write,
and your interventions are trying to deflect that... I wonder why that is? do you have some hidden, maybe Allah forbids, dark agenda?
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Noon dhe plume, peace,
you are still at it, trying to shut out Bro pazuzu...
You are entitled to post, but those like me are entitled to ignore you, as we wish to read all pazuzu wishes and feels important to write,
and your interventions are trying to deflect that... I wonder why that is? do you have some hidden, maybe Allah forbids, dark agenda?
Peace theNabster,
He posts...
Quote from Pazuzu on Today at 044220 AM
And it's the proper name of a family or clan that Joseph lived among. And this the same clan that Moses was later raised brought up in. And the head of this clan was called Far3oun...I post that it clearly contradicts Qur'an which says they are different people's...
7127 and said the chiefs from nation Pharaoh you leave Moses and his nation to cause corruption in the earth and forsake you and your gods said we will kill their sons and will let live their women/females and indeed over them subjugators
You instead of refuting above add zero value post accusing me of conspiring.
Yes I'm Albanian CIA, freaking Gjoni Bond with ties to ex Israeli intelligence. >D
OK I?ll fess up that last part is true won?t waste time and ignore you as well.
Have nice life!
Peace
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Peace @Noon dhe plume
are you ok? maybe you need to relax a bit, and ease off on the caffeine LOL!
so where do you get from what you quoted that the people of Misr and the People of Abraham were the same people?
but you can ignore this post if it bothers you... rotfl
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You are entitled to post, but those like me are entitled to ignore you, as we wish to read all pazuzu wishes and feels important to write,
and your interventions are trying to deflect that... I wonder why that is? do you have some hidden, maybe Allah forbids, dark agenda?Yes indeed!
Could you all @noon dhe plume, @samia, et al... take it easy, and let bro Pazuzu expose his ideas and give us knowledge, please!It would be shame that you make even this thread become a circus like you made of "Muhammad" and "Pharao" threads...
There are people like myself who find Pazuzu's information eyeopening and mostly enlightening. Try not to disturb much, thank you!