"Hebrew", the Children of Israel, and the Semitic Migrations

NOMAD

Thank you brother Pazuzu for another step to find truth, it is very evident indeed sun

What more proof do you need that they have been looking for ?Israel? in the wrong place? rotfl
they are too woried with other stuff.. and they prefer not to see, the only problem is that people are dying for their "childish attitudes"... nope

But We can really start to understand the Quran as it suposed to be, at lest for non-arabic born speakers.. its a chance to accurate words (like Msr ) that next generation can be tought at least in a better way, more acurate, and less blind

Knowledge is not a competition, its the "fuel" for global understanding and tolerance, so i will be waiting for the next thread of Muhamed(P) that brother Pazuzu pormissed O0

Salaam

Noon_dhe_plume

THE END...

bravo

Now for all the cheerleaders -- which fact did you find compelling (one at a time please); was it all the bible nonsense?

GODsubmitter

Thank you Pazuzu bravo

Thank you brother Pazuzu for another step to find truth, it is very evident indeed sun

What more proof do you need that they have been looking for ?Israel? in the wrong place? rotfl
they are too woried with other stuff.. and they prefer not to see, the only problem is that people are dying for their "childish attitudes"... nope

But We can really start to understand the Quran as it suposed to be, at lest for non-arabic born speakers.. its a chance to accurate words (like Msr ) that next generation can be tought at least in a better way, more acurate, and less blind D

Knowledge is not a competition, its the "fuel" for global understanding and tolerance, so i will be waiting for the next thread of Muhamed(P) that brother Pazuzu pormissed O0

Salaam

AGREE!

kamking

Dear Pazuzu simply brilliant bravo

unknownuser

@abuamrrami

Thank you for that link.

It shows to what lengths the forgers and LIARS are willing to go to "create" evidence of a great empire (from the Euphrates to the Nile) of which there is not a single mention in all of history.

These are the same people who planted false evidence (chariot wheels) in the Red Sea, and claimed they were relics of Pharoah.

But the Sunna of Allah states that the truth will always overcome the falsehoods in the end. And their falsehoods are being exposed by their very own scientists.

@Noon dhe plume

Now for all the cheerleaders -- which fact did you find compelling (one at a time please); was it all the bible nonsense?

Yes, the Old Testament does contain a lot of falsehoods and distortions. But I firmly believe that somewhere underneath the pile of garbage is the truth. The five books that they call "Torah", which relate the chronicles af Bani Israel, was originally a very accurate and genuine account. It was later, during the Babylonian Exile, then the Septuagint translations later on, and finally the Masoritic articulation of the silent Aramaic letters that the text became corrupted. Add to that the Orientalist and Imperialist who are obssessed with Palestine. When they found a few (10%) names in Palestine matching names in the Torah they immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was their "Promised Land". They didn't bother to look for the remaining 90% of the matching place names.

So yes, there was a king named Hiram, and a king named David who asked him for some cedarwood. But their failure to find any trace of them in the Levant is not because the Biblical text is nonsense, but because they have been looking in the wrong place.

Peace and OUT...

Mazhar

bravo

Now for all the cheerleaders -- which fact did you find compelling (one at a time please); was it all the bible nonsense?

Get the IPs checked. May be you find that the "Merassis" are fake, brought in only for cheering.

huruf

I heartily welcome diversity of views and opinions, but the some "antiPauzu", dear brothers-sisters, I think you are taking it too needlessly passionately. Keep on posting your objections surely, but what is the use of showing such unpleasantness about people taking to whatever they want to take, and how does it further or support your own views to call opponents this or that. I think it defeats your purpose.

What does it matter how many people o ips or whatever want to believe this or that? It doesn't change a thing. Just relax. Things eventually sort out themselves. Better not to overdo it. People usually can watch perfectly for themselves and they do things for a reason and adhere to a certain view for a reason, just like you.

On the other hand, don't you really see any flaws in the current prevailing view set up? Because if what Pazuzu is putting forward meets with such a success it is because there is already the ground for it, and if you do not believe yourself idiots, in which of course I agree, other people are not idiots either. And we should not be disdainful differences are a blessing, not a curse.

Salaam

Ashraf

peace

He granteth wisdom to whom He pleaseth; and he to whom wisdom is granted receiveth indeed a benefit overflowing; but none will grasp the Message but men of understanding

Do they not reflect? Their companion is not seized with madness he is but a perspicuous warner {7184]

IMHO

bravo--; was it all the bible nonsense?

Salaam NDP
After today?s post I will not be communicating with you until my confidence in your posts has been restored, so I will ask you for the last time; have you even read Pazuzu?s posts with an open mind? If so you will have seen several ayahs from the Qur?an, which indisputably support his version. However it is the unhistorical narrative of the Bible that some ?followers? of the Qur?an blindly accept, and for that reason it is imperative to employ those very accounts to refute the bogus history that?s been imposed on us. Also Jews and Christians do not uphold the Qur?an and therefore it is nonsensical to call it ?bible nonsense?.
Shall I remind you what the reporter said towards the end of part 5 of the documentary ?King Solomon's Tablet Of Stone?, posted by abuamrrami? He said ?It is a deeply shocking revelation and beyond that there is something even more disturbing; the forgers were playing on the desire of millions of people to see the bible confirmed as history, it?s an immensely cruel and cynical thing to have done?. Sadly I also felt that some ?followers? of the Qur?an were attempting to twist the ayats of the holy Qur?an to fit their preconceived notions (which were actually received from the Bible!) examples A garden scene with a pool fragment of a wall painting from an ancient Egyptian tomb, built around 1350 BCE
peace

Mazhar

Salaam NDP
After today?s post I will not be communicating with you until my confidence in your posts has been restored, so I will ask you for the last time; have you even read Pazuzu?s posts with an open mind? If so you will have seen several ayahs from the Qur?an, which indisputably support his version. However it is the unhistorical narrative of the Bible that some ?followers? of the Qur?an blindly accept, and for that reason it is imperative to employ those very accounts to refute the bogus history that?s been imposed on us. Also Jews and Christians do not uphold the Qur?an and therefore it is nonsensical to call it ?bible nonsense?.
Shall I remind you what the reporter said towards the end of part 5 of the documentary ?King Solomon's Tablet Of Stone?, posted by abuamrrami? He said ?It is a deeply shocking revelation and beyond that there is something even more disturbing; the forgers were playing on the desire of millions of people to see the bible confirmed as history, it?s an immensely cruel and cynical thing to have done?. Sadly I also felt that some ?followers? of the Qur?an were attempting to twist the ayats of the holy Qur?an to fit their preconceived notions (which were actually received from the Bible!) examples A garden scene with a pool fragment of a wall painting from an ancient Egyptian tomb, built around 1350 BCE
peace

It is Pazuzu who does not read posts. He only puts all stupid sort of assertions and then runs away. I forced and cornered him to put the summary of all rubbish he had floated on another thread. He did it and later seems to have considered it as his stupid act. After that day he has not responded a single post on that thread to justify the nonsense he had been posting. He is the time waster.

Ask him to answer the facts quoted alongwith Arabic text of Qur'aan. His last post was
Re Who Was the Pharoah of Moses
? Reply #138 on November 13, 2011, 011913 AM ?Quote on Page-14.

I am sure he will not make and put up a summary of all that he has said on this thread and indicate where has he arrived from journey in bewilderment.

GROAN

It is Pazuzu who does not read posts. He only puts all stupid sort of assertions and then runs away. I am sure he will not make and put up a summary of all that he has said on this thread and indicate where has he arrived from journey in bewilderment.

Salaams Brother??
I'm amazed to see 'believers', I take it you regard yourself as one? behave like cock sure atheists, or convicted felons, in aggressive denial although they have no foot to stand on, and nothing to back up their denial. "Nope it wasn't me!" Impressive. wow nope

IMHO

I am sure he will not make and put up a summary of all that he has said on this thread and indicate where has he arrived from journey in bewilderment

Salaam
Are you trying to drag the other subject into this one to create confusion? In the future please stick to the relevant thread.
I want to know why you expect everyone to answer you when you evade answering very reasonable questions like ?why no mention of Yousuff (as) in Egyptian records etc?
According to you is current Egypt the Msr of the Qur'an and is one of the bodies of Pharoahs, mummified by their devotees, that of the Fir3oun mentioned in the Qur'an??
Since you have apparently assumed the role of the inerrant scholar of Arabic and the Qur'an please tell me who are refered to as "We" here 1092 "This day, We will preserve your body, so that you become a sign for those after you." But most of the people are unaware of Our signs!
peace

Mazhar

I want to know why you expect everyone to answer you when you evade answering very reasonable questions like ?why no mention of Yousuff (as) in Egyptian records etc?

Why no mention of Papyrus in their heiroglaph record? Did Chinese invent papyrus?

Mazhar

According to you is current Egypt the Msr of the Qur'an and is one of the bodies of Pharoahs, mummified by their devotees, that of the Fir3oun mentioned in the Qur'an??

I did not say mummified Pharaoh. I quoted what Misr means in Arabic, and that signifies none but the country known in general parlance as Egypt.

IMHO

Why no mention of Papyrus in their heiroglaph record? Did Chinese invent papyrus?

I think this thread too needs a warning ignore Mazher he is the time waster par excellence!
Byeeeee

Mazhar

Salaam
Are you trying to drag the other subject into this one to create confusion?

Is this means creating confusion?
Quote from Mazhar on Today at 113652 AM
I am sure he will not make and put up a summary of all that he has said on this thread and indicate where has he arrived from journey in bewilderment

Summary will put the things straight, point wise, convenient to answer and confront him with hard facts, which is a normal treatment for bewildered minds.

Mazhar

I think this thread too needs a warning ignore Mazher he is the time waster par excellence!
Byeeeee

Dear you asked the question

Quote
when you evade answering very reasonable questions like ?why no mention of Yousuff (as) in Egyptian records etc?

I gave you the reason

Why no mention of Papyrus in their heiroglaph record? Did Chinese invent papyrus?

Noon_dhe_plume

Salaam NDP
After today?s post I will not be communicating with you until my confidence in your posts has been restored, so I will ask you for the last time; have you even read Pazuzu?s posts with an open mind?

Salaam IMHO,

Yes. His posts have ZERO evidence only conjecture and hearsay. Example incense burner?

http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/e_pre-islamic/fig01_aramaic.htm

600 BCE Aramaic cannot find where they dug it up, most probably in N. Arabia

http//www.mnh.si.edu/epigraphy/figs-stones/medium/color_md_jpeg/fig01_c_md.jpg

He claimed it was found in Yemen and ?baffled archaeologists..." yet when Samia asked him to prove it, nothing.
Earliest Arabic writings date 1st century BCE, pre 150 CE, and Namarah inscription of 328 CE

http//www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Inscriptions

There was no evidence presented from Yemen.

If so you will have seen several ayahs from the Qur?an, which indisputably support his version.

Verses and evidence please?

However it is the unhistorical narrative of the Bible that some ?followers? of the Qur?an blindly accept, and for that reason it is imperative to employ those very accounts to refute the bogus history that?s been imposed on us. Also Jews and Christians do not uphold the Qur?an and therefore it is nonsensical to call it ?bible nonsense?.

I don't follow bible hadith since one cannot tell what is fabricated and much of it is nonsense.
Therefore, dismissed as evidence http//www.earlychristianwritings.com/

Shall I remind you what the reporter said towards the end of part 5 of the documentary ?King Solomon's Tablet Of Stone?, posted by abuamrrami? He said ?It is a deeply shocking revelation and beyond that there is something even more disturbing; the forgers were playing on the desire of millions of people to see the bible confirmed as history, it?s an immensely cruel and cynical thing to have done?.

So they arrested a fake Israeli archeologist; post evidence from Yemen please?

Sadly I also felt that some ?followers? of the Qur?an were attempting to twist the ayats of the holy Qur?an to fit their preconceived notions (which were actually received from the Bible!) examples A garden scene with a pool fragment of a wall painting from an ancient Egyptian tomb, built around 1350 BCE

Qur?an clearly refuted you in the other thread which you claimed and erroneously translated...

? Quote from IMHO on November 20, 2011, 013855 PM
?We levelled to the ground the great works and fine buildings which Pharaoh and his people erected
What could be greater work than Prymids ?

4425 how many they left from gardens and water pools
4426 and corn fields and places noble
4427 and pleasant things they were in it taking delight

Salaams Brother??
I'm amazed to see 'believers', I take it you regard yourself as one? behave like cock sure atheists, or convicted felons, in aggressive denial although they have no foot to stand on, and nothing to back up their denial. "Nope it wasn't me!" Impressive. wow nope

Salaam -- perhaps you like to tell us what evidence or "facts" that you found most compelling?

NOMAD

specialy for NDP and Mahzar wich are here only to voodoo basicly with no much respect

rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl are you jelous? Until you dont bring concrete evidences there will be no bravo bravo cheearliding for you..know why brothers? because i bravo not Pazuzu but what he brought to us) what is much and far better acurate and near the truth, than the same old farytalles...

whatever theres plenty of sites on the www for you and foruns where u can post your stuff and people will surly cheearleeder bravo you for you blindness > hail
nothing more to say and may Allah guide Us All

And i say again THANKS PAZUZU bravo bravo bravo
... rotfl

GROAN

Salaam -- perhaps you like to tell us what evidence or "facts" that you found most compelling?

I'll tell you what I find compelling; your evasive reasoning and contrariness has made you and Mazhar completely irrelevant to this discussion, and for that reason I feel compelled to ignore any further posts from the pair of you. nope