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The ultimate translation of the prayer.

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    Paradox_Uncreated
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    When you worship God, you become close to God (uncreated spiritfree nature, ruh) and therefore do judge, in accordance to God and thus, there is no need to think of possible scenarios.

    God loves, and love is sex, more satanic waswas. And ofcourse you reject the transcendence of God, which is the paradox of unlimitedness I talk about. You reject this probably because accepting it would be detrimental to your satanic spirits, and your babble.

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      Alladin
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      I seek refuge in God against the rejected satan

      Peace

      Look beyond the forms and to the nature of TRUTH itself.
      2435, as always. Nobody has a response to it

      God is one
      Space & time is many
      Universe is one
      Heavens and earth is many

      An individual aspect is not God. God is totality. The light of the heavens and earth Source, self-sufficient reality

      God is light, the heavens and earth are MADE of light. God is the truth, the heavens and earth are MADE with truth.

      The specific insight I wish to convey here is not transmittable except by direct experience of total ego dissolution/samadhi.

      Based on what are you attributing God to the number one?
      There is one God, but God is not the number one!

      And your God is one God, no God except him, the mercy-giving merciful (2163)

      There is one God, not God is the number 1!

      What you said led to something even more interesting, I noticed that 1121 is translated incorrectly. To my understanding it does not saying that God is one (Wahyd), but that God is someone(Ahad)!

      Is the universe someone? No!

      Peace

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        IAMOP
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        Peace

        Alladin

        Please read my words correctly
        God is ONE entity
        God is Light/Energy (2435)
        God is Truth (662)(226)(23116)(3130)
        That which forms space and time are MANY entities
        God is Al-Haqq The supreme reality
        The supreme reality has no beginning and no end it is uncreated
        The supreme reality creates all things
        The supreme reality is known to atheists as the multiverse, to Buddhists as Brahman and to us as ALLAH, to Christians as God.

        Likewise
        The multiverse is ONE entity
        The multiverse is Light/Energy
        The multiverse is Truth
        The multiverse created this universe the heavens and earth The ekpyrotic hypothesis of string theory is the best explanation thus far (CLICK ME FOR EXPLANATION); Even the disbelievers have no choice now but to attest God's magnificence!

        Consider that you have a beginning. "Before" that beginning, what is there? That is why ALLAH is the first. The First is what created you, created time, created everything.

        That is a name of ALLAH The First.
        ALLAH is the first before all beginnings, is ALLAH
        Before all beginnings is The First

        You have an end when everything is over and done with, what is next? That is why ALLAH is the last. After the end of all things.
        ALLAH is the last After all ends, is ALLAH
        After all ends is The Last

        {26}
        Everyone on it must pass away.
        {27}
        And there will endure for ever the person of your Lord, the Lord of glory and honor.

        I hope this clarifies. The learning I am trying to transmit here is really difficult to get across unless your mind is totally open and aware. There is no paradox in the quran except that nothing can encompass ALLAH.

        Al-Haqq is not just a proper name. It has a meaning - the truth - and the meaning is VERY important. For example in 3130 we do not say Al-Batil (the falsehood) is a proper name because it has a very obvious meaning. You have to leave behind all your sectarian preconceptions to truly understand ALLAH. ALLAH does not love sectarians and as long as you cling to sectarian understandings you will not grasp the true essence of al-quran.

        God loves, and love is sex, more satanic waswas. And ofcourse you reject the transcendence of God, which is the paradox of unlimitedness I talk about. You reject this probably because accepting it would be detrimental to your satanic spirits, and your babble.

        Peace, I am not going to argue as the truth stands free of both our opinions; Highlighted are things I have never said. Are you afraid that you have constructed an identity that is not totally in sync with quran? There is no paradox in quran, God leaves no stone unturned and explains everything with supreme justice. There is a rhyme and a reason for everything. When you resort to using words like "babble" and "satanic" you are giving the reptilian aspect of your brain (amygdala) precedence over the forebrain's ability to analyse and jusge and THIS is satanic more so than anything. Refrain from anger and judgement until you have full knowledge of what you are calling satanic and have mastered your own satans.

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          Paradox_Uncreated
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          You are babbling OPF. Ofcourse you have no idea what you are saying.

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            Alladin
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            I seek refuge in God from satan the rejected

            IAMOP, ever heard of christians saying God is one but split him into three entities? Tritiny as they like to call it. The father, Son and holy spirit issue?

            What you are saying seems the same thing as what christians say about oneness when they actually mean tritiny.

            I am not here to be misled by people like you if that is your true intention.
            Qul innama adAAoo rabbee wala oshriku bihi ahadan (some one) (7220)
            Say I am only calling upon my Lord, and I do not associate some one(ahadan) with Him.

            Peace

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              Paradox_Uncreated
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              Associators are not allowed in heaven (quran).

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                I can easily understand how religions got distorted. All it takes is one who doesnt understand monotheism, and he will be babbling his idolaterous incoherent ideas (from satans waswas) all his life. Its a miracle that the situation isn`t worse.

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                  Sufism seem to go back to where hinduism went wrong.

                  From wikipedia http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaktism

                  Shaktism views the Devi as the source, essence and substance of virtually everything in creation, seen or unseen, including Shiva himself. In the Devi-Bhagavata Purana, a central Shakta scripture, the Devi declares

                  "I am Manifest Divinity, Unmanifest Divinity, and Transcendent Divinity. I am Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, as well as Saraswati, Lakshmi and Parvati. I am the Sun and I am the Stars, and I am also the Moon. I am all animals and birds, and I am the outcaste as well, and the thief. I am the low person of dreadful deeds, and the great person of excellent deeds. I am Female, I am Male, and I am Neuter."

                  Sounds just like every sufi, rumi, and OPF.

                  The quran clearly states that the moon and the sun is not God, but are created by the Lord of the worlds.

                  Peace.

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                    IAMOP
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                    I seek refuge in ALLAH from the accursed satan

                    Peace

                    The question is What is Al-Haqq?

                    Is multiverse Al-Haqq? From an atheist-physicist point of view, multiverse is Al-Haqq.

                    Where I understand this is that string theory is capable of adequately describing Hilbert space an infinite dimensional space of possibilities. However string theory itself cannot be proven because it is limitless any evidence for it is also evidence against it!

                    Please refer

                    I beg to disagree with you brother.

                    An atheist is not always a polytheist, but can be a muslim also. It is mostly the idea of a male-god sitting and punishing people especially women, typical in the abrahamic religions (and thats also shirk ) which they reject and hence claim that there is no God - at least in the traditional way God is described as. All religions have failed and are nonsense according to the atheists.

                    In other words, atheists do not personalize God. He could be the universe as you said, or a system or a law. They are really not sure. But he can impossibly be an old male sitting on a throne an unseen places, as the abrahamic religions tend to believe.

                    That does not make the atheists polytheists. Its their actions which they would be judged upon.

                    I am not here to mislead. I am monotheist, always have been and always will be God willing. However I study physics in depth and I have come to the conclusion thus far that what present physics describes as "multiverse" is also Al-Haqq. However there is no likeness to THE God.

                    Paradox Uncreated does not appear to me to be able to efficiently bridge the linguistic differences between Hindus, Jews, Muslims, Atheists. I can and that is how I see monotheism here whereas he observes polytheism. I apologise if I am incorrect. The multiverse is also "Brahman". Also, I stopped DMT a long time ago. Don't knock such a powerful agent of consciousness unless you know what it does.

                    Until you have this experience that removes ALL associations of names with God you will not be able to truly understand where I am coming from. You must totally die first; transcend duality altogether. God will choose when and where this happens if you so please to reach it.

                    God is the originator of names and does not need to have a name, names are pointers to God. In some people's mind, they cannot accept "ALLAH" as a name of God and they percieve Muslims as disbelievers.

                    Now if you would please refer to my prior post

                    Peace

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                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                      Judging from you, DMT is useless for monotheism. And do not use the phrase "I seek refuge in Allah". You should say something like "I seek refuge in my idol, the multiverse".

                      The rest is your usual babble.

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                        IAMOP
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                        Praised be the one God, who sends disbelievers to hell. (singular, unique, not creation). Allah will perfect his light! (618 )

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                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                          Nonono, you are where you know and see God.

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                            IAMOP
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                            What are you afraid of?

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                              Paradox_Uncreated
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                              I fear God.

                              A concept you do not know, because indeed, you do not know God. What you are seeing is the idolaterous state of the pantheist.

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                                Peace

                                I am not pantheist. I am me.

                                Truly afraid of God? Please check yourself.

                                494 O you who have attained to faith, when you go forth in God's cause, use your discernment, and do not - out of a desire for the fleeting gains of this worldly life - say unto anyone who offers you the greeting of peace, "Thou art not a believer" for with God there are gains abundant. You, too, were once in the same condition - but God has been gracious unto you. Use, therefore, your discernment verily, God is always aware of what you do.

                                peace

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                                  Paradox_Uncreated
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                                  You are a pantheist who says you are not a pantheist. And the rest of your logic is equally incoherent, the example that "5000 gods" is true, is the best example, because according to your logic, all that exists is truth. And that is pr. definition pantheism.

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                                    Peace

                                    Falsehood does not exist! Falsehood is non-existence and non-existence cannot be. Existence IS truth, truth IS existence.

                                    It is true that you wrote . Binary state 1 - TRUE

                                    It is not true that - Binary state 0 - FALSE

                                    {81}
                                    And say The truth has come and the falsehood has vanished; surely falsehood is a vanishing (thing).

                                    So perhaps falsehood exists right now, but it soon will cease to be.

                                    How did you miss this, as a programmer?

                                    Peace

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                                      Paradox_Uncreated
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                                      I disregard most of what you are saying as trash. Is everything the truth or not?

                                      Should be an easy yes, no. question. If everything is the truth, then yes, there are 5000 gods.

                                      Iamop wrote "Falsehood does not exist!".

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                                        Paradox_Uncreated
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                                        Iamop seems unable to anwer. Probably because he is nuts, and "beyond bliss".

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                                          Paradox_Uncreated
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                                          Al-hallaj got his head cut off. I can understand that now. They just keep babbling, and has done so until the world has been deluded to use the word "saints" about them. They are pharaoes, not muslims.

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