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Salaam Jafar.
Where can uou see they spoke arabic?
I think Jesus spoke Aramitic about Moses I dont know. But offcouse he was speaking the launguage exiting that time. Uthervise nobody would listen/understand him )
I agree with Gnosis that they are the same persons. The persons in AQ are not just some figures with no value or inpact. And thats why they are mentioned in AQ because this people are sent by God
In the Quran Musa spoke arabic.. and so does Isa, Zakkariya, Miryam, Yusuf, Adam etc..
I was being 'sarcastic'..
Because in the Quran Isa / Musa or even God are being told to spoke arabic doesn't necessarily mean that they actually spoke Arabic and/or an Arab.
Some 'avid Quranist' does think so though..
That's why "Quran Alone" approach can be misleading...Salam / Peace
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Salaam Jafar
Allright. Maybe I not that bright sometimes.
Thanks for answering anyway. Think I got your point now..
Peace
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Salaam Jafar )
Allright. Maybe I not that bright sometimes. )
Thanks for answering anyway. Think I got your point now..
Peace
Salam Niels..
The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life.
Salam / Peace
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Sallaam to all Bros and Sis O0 sun
Salam Niels..
The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life.
Salam / Peace
Just to say i Agree 100% with this answer, Above all is Allah, and these are exemples for Mankind.. group
Salaam/Peace/paz
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Jafar said
"The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life."
Well, to you it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. You see, those FORGERS who moved the geography of events from Yemen to the Levant are the SAME criminals who
1- Claimed that the Russian, Polish, Lithuanian and Dutch Jews, the descendants of the KHAZARS, whose ancestors never set foot in Palestine, are the Children of Israel, and are a pure race, and that all of humanity are filthy animals created for their service.
2- Claimed ancient Israel was in Palestine, in order to annex the land and persecute its original inhabitants.
3- Defamed all of Allahs messengers and mopped the floor with them.
4- Invented hadiths which described Muhammad (P) as a barbarian, imbecile, pedofile, and sex maniac.
5- Were the secret power behind the throne of the Ummayad and Abbasid DOGS who ruled the Islamic world.
6- Hijacked the history of humanity and prostituted it to fit with their own agendas and interests.
7- Created the usurious banking system and the toilet paper they call "fiat money" to enslave all of humanity.
So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly.
Peace...
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Jafar said
"The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life."
Well, to you it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. You see, those FORGERS who moved the geography of events from Yemen to the Levant are the SAME criminals who
1- Claimed that the Russian, Polish, Lithuanian and Dutch Jews, the descendants of the KHAZARS, whose ancestors never set foot in Palestine, are the Children of Israel, and are a pure race, and that all of humanity are filthy animals created for their service.
2- Claimed ancient Israel was in Palestine, in order to annex the land and persecute its original inhabitants.
3- Defamed all of Allahs messengers and mopped the floor with them.
4- Invented hadiths which described Muhammad (P) as a barbarian, imbecile, pedofile, and sex maniac.
5- Were the secret power behind the throne of the Ummayad and Abbasid DOGS who ruled the Islamic world.
6- Hijacked the history of humanity and prostituted it to fit with their own agendas and interests.
7- Created the usurious banking system and the toilet paper they call "fiat money" to enslave all of humanity.
So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly.
Peace...
Peace,
Even if this was true (which it isn't), ultimately it does not matter. Does not the Quran say that if you do what is right, you will be among the successful? I don't have time for conspiracy theories and conjecture about an entirely fabricated history. All I have to say is this
This is what the LORD says to me with his strong hand upon me, warning me not to follow the way of this people
?Do not call conspiracy
everything this people calls a conspiracy;
do not fear what they fear,
and do not dread it.
The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy,
he is the one you are to fear,
he is the one you are to dread. (Isaiah 811-13)-Joel
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Well, to you it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. You see, those FORGERS who moved the geography of events from Yemen to the Levant are the SAME criminals who
1- Claimed that the Russian, Polish, Lithuanian and Dutch Jews, the descendants of the KHAZARS, whose ancestors never set foot in Palestine, are the Children of Israel, and are a pure race, and that all of humanity are filthy animals created for their service.
2- Claimed ancient Israel was in Palestine, in order to annex the land and persecute its original inhabitants.
3- Defamed all of Allahs messengers and mopped the floor with them.
4- Invented hadiths which described Muhammad (P) as a barbarian, imbecile, pedofile, and sex maniac.
5- Were the secret power behind the throne of the Ummayad and Abbasid DOGS who ruled the Islamic world.
6- Hijacked the history of humanity and prostituted it to fit with their own agendas and interests.
7- Created the usurious banking system and the toilet paper they call "fiat money" to enslave all of humanity.
So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly.
Peace...
Your hatred for Jews, excessive passion for Yemen and fetishes on 'conspiracy theory' always 'amaze me'.
To you your own judgement, to me mine..
As it doesn't matter at all... and will not change anything...PS Minor correction on 'history lesson', it was the Chinese who initially invented paper AND paper based token of exchange a.k.a money and not the jews..
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banknote
The chinese are also the first civilization who invented 'fiat money' and not the jews..
The mongols spread this 'invention' to the west as they invade the western world.. and not the jews..Salam / Peace
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Jafar said
"The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life."
Well, to you it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. You see, those FORGERS who moved the geography of events from Yemen to the Levant are the SAME criminals who
1- Claimed that the Russian, Polish, Lithuanian and Dutch Jews, the descendants of the KHAZARS, whose ancestors never set foot in Palestine, are the Children of Israel, and are a pure race, and that all of humanity are filthy animals created for their service.
2- Claimed ancient Israel was in Palestine, in order to annex the land and persecute its original inhabitants.
3- Defamed all of Allahs messengers and mopped the floor with them.
4- Invented hadiths which described Muhammad (P) as a barbarian, imbecile, pedofile, and sex maniac.
5- Were the secret power behind the throne of the Ummayad and Abbasid DOGS who ruled the Islamic world.
6- Hijacked the history of humanity and prostituted it to fit with their own agendas and interests.
7- Created the usurious banking system and the toilet paper they call "fiat money" to enslave all of humanity.
So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly.
Peace...
Pazuzu, I like the effort you've put in to your threads but this post is in very poor taste. History is not dictated by the people, it's dictated by those in power (which is changing today).
Jews, Sunnis and Shias are great people, at least the ones who don't have extreme views. peace
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Jafar said
"The most important point is it doesn't matter where Jesus, Abraham, Moses Joseph, John, Zachary, Maria etc.. were actually located. They can be in Antarctica or even Mars for all I care. The Quran tell the story of those folks as a 'role model' of "Good people".. that's what important.. Heed the lessons from their life story and apply it on your every day life."
Well, to you it might not be a big deal, but to me it is. You see, those FORGERS who moved the geography of events from Yemen to the Levant are the SAME criminals who
1- Claimed that the Russian, Polish, Lithuanian and Dutch Jews, the descendants of the KHAZARS, whose ancestors never set foot in Palestine, are the Children of Israel, and are a pure race, and that all of humanity are filthy animals created for their service.
2- Claimed ancient Israel was in Palestine, in order to annex the land and persecute its original inhabitants.
3- Defamed all of Allahs messengers and mopped the floor with them.
4- Invented hadiths which described Muhammad (P) as a barbarian, imbecile, pedofile, and sex maniac.
5- Were the secret power behind the throne of the Ummayad and Abbasid DOGS who ruled the Islamic world.
6- Hijacked the history of humanity and prostituted it to fit with their own agendas and interests.
7- Created the usurious banking system and the toilet paper they call "fiat money" to enslave all of humanity.
So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly.
Peace...
As-Salaam Alaikum,
Call me crazy, but I actually agree with all these points except number 5. I don't know enough about point 5 to comment on it but the rest are basically accurate. There's no conspiracy theory about any of them (though point 7 may need some clarity, Jews may not have been the inventors of fiat money, but they most certainly are the ones responsible behind the corrupt banking system today).
"So yes....it matters...the history of a nation is not something to be taken lightly."
^I completely 100% agree with this, though I do disagree with your excessive passion for Yemen.
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It was the crusaders who initially invented 'banking system' in Europe.
And adopted the chinese invention of paper deed which evolved into paper money.And again it was the Chinese who first implemented a great invention called "Fiat money", learned from it (regarding it's strength and weaknesses) and adapt to it.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_moneyNot all 'banking systems' are 'corrupt' so to speak..
Perhaps it is in US because their central bank operate like a private company (but that's another long story) but not on other part of the world...Again... learn from the Chinese on how they leverage their banking systems and fiat money to kick started their immense growth on economy as we see today.
Albeit that too has its own weaknesses which we shall soon see in very near future.Conspiracy theories are sooo lame and outdated... rotfl rotfl
If there's a group of people who possess the ability to 'rule the world', so to speak... it's the chinese and not the jews or the arabs..Salam / Peace
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Salamun Alaikum
Lets get back to the topic ISRAEL
Can anyone guess what the Flag of Israel stands for?
Salaam,
I just recently heard someone say that the blue stripes are the Nile and Eufraat and the white is the land between those 2 rivers which belongs to Israel. I don't know if that is what the desginer had in mind or what some people claimed it to be.
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Salaam,
I just recently heard someone say that the blue stripes are the Nile and Eufraat and the white is the land between those 2 rivers which belongs to Israel. I don't know if that is what the desginer had in mind or what some people claimed it to be.
Salam Bro
You might be right or maybe the blue stripes represent Persian Gulf and Red Sea and white in between is Arabian Peninsula o
Salam
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Salaam,
I just recently heard someone say that the blue stripes are the Nile and Eufraat and the white is the land between those 2 rivers which belongs to Israel. I don't know if that is what the desginer had in mind or what some people claimed it to be.
No no.. blue stripes resembles Atlantic and Pacific ocean and the white is the continent between them..
Which includes from Canada up to Argentina/Chile on the south. that's where "The promised holy land is".This inline with what Maverick has shown earlier..
http//www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.htmlSo you who are not jews and living in the America continent, better start packing your things and move to hmmm.. that tiny land in the middle east! rotfl rotfl
PS Archeological evidence can be 'derived' to support any conclusions..
Salam / Peace
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No no.. blue stripes resembles Atlantic and Pacific ocean and the white is the continent between them..
Which includes from Canada up to Argentina/Chile on the south. that's where "The promised holy land is".This inline with what Maverick has shown earlier..
http//www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.htmlSo you who are not jews and living in the America continent, better start packing your things and move to hmmm.. that tiny land in the middle east! rotfl rotfl
PS Archeological evidence can be 'derived' to support any conclusions..
Salam / Peace
rotfl rotfl rotfl
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Peace Jafar,
You must be familiar with our approach to foreign policy here in America. rotfl
No no.. blue stripes resembles Atlantic and Pacific ocean and the white is the continent between them..
Which includes from Canada up to Argentina/Chile on the south. that's where "The promised holy land is".This inline with what Maverick has shown earlier..
http//www.econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.htmlSo you who are not jews and living in the America continent, better start packing your things and move to hmmm.. that tiny land in the middle east! rotfl rotfl
PS Archeological evidence can be 'derived' to support any conclusions..
Salam / Peace